[quote]OMC wrote:
Buckwheat pancakes???..eeeewwwwww[/quote]
have you ever tried them?!?!?!? throw some berries in the mix some honey and PRESTO!!! deliciousness
[quote]Makaveli077 wrote:
It is said that its ok to eat these on this diet. It says 0 carbs all over the bag and on the back. Awsome a snack with protein and no carbs that tast like chips…
then i found a lil section on the bottom of the nutrition facts . Right above the ingredents i see this…
Calories per gram:
Fat 9 * Carbrohydrate 4 * Protein 4
WTF is this… i have been snackin on these all last week untill today when i seen this. Now i have to restart my whole keto 14 day phase and that much longer till my carb up day…
i dont understand this tho… any expects can help a new comer to this diet out.??[/quote]
Calories per gram:
Fat 9 * Carbrohydrate 4 * Protein 4
This little chart here is just informing you on how many calories are in each gram of fat, carb, and protein. Its a new regulation all food labels have them i suppose. Dont worry
[quote]Makaveli077 wrote:
It is said that its ok to eat these on this diet. It says 0 carbs all over the bag and on the back. Awsome a snack with protein and no carbs that tast like chips…
then i found a lil section on the bottom of the nutrition facts . Right above the ingredents i see this…
Calories per gram:
Fat 9 * Carbrohydrate 4 * Protein 4
WTF is this… i have been snackin on these all last week untill today when i seen this. Now i have to restart my whole keto 14 day phase and that much longer till my carb up day…
i dont understand this tho… any expects can help a new comer to this diet out.??[/quote]
…Okay, I’ll bite:
I don’t know what this ‘snack’ is…and I don’t know that it matters.
The “Nutrition Facts” that you cite are just that…Facts regarding Nutrition.
Call it a Public Service Announcement -but the manufacturer is simply letting you know that Fats, Carbs and Proteins have 9, 4 & 4 calories per gram each (respectively).
That’s all…
peace
I’ve been on the AD for 1 1/2 weeks now and fell off the wagon two meals. I’ve already dropped one notch on the belt and my weight is exactly the same as the day I started!!!
Should I restart my 12 day counter from the last meal that I failed on or continue on to my original 12th day?
I’m having foot surgery on Friday which is going to modify my workout plans for a week, should I modify the diet at all to compensate for the layoff?
Well guys, I just got done with spring break where I had a great time partying my ass off (don’t worry I made sure to stick to hard liquor so I was still following AD proticol). It seems that I somehow lost 10 lbs over the course of that week.
I didn’t eat much at all, but it seems to have been all fat or water loss as I did make strength gains in the gym this week.
Anyway starting this week I’ve decided that this would be good time to run some experiments on myself, as I am cutting and I am almost never hungry anymore. So what I’ve been doing is keeping all my fats to either egg yolks, olive oil, or flax oil; eating only veggies for my carbs; and keeping my protein timed around working out.
So for instance, today I had a 5 egg pancake for breakfast (this is where I just cover the eggs and fry them), along with two table spoons of EVOO and some fish oil caps. Then for the rest of the day until I worked out I just had olive oil (its weird because I never get hungry anymore, so I forget to even have my olive oil sometimes).
After working out I had a protein shake, and then 1.5 hours later I had another 5 egg pancake.
The test here is to see if I will lose any muscle while dieting down and going for about 7-8 hours during my day without any protein, and then working out.
I’ve been doing this since monday and so far my energy has been fine in the gym and stable all day long. And the reason I am doing this is because there has been so much debate over whether this diet will go catabolic without ample amounts of protein throughout the day. I know that you guys who hike alot were discussing this earlier.
This may not be the best test for it, but its the best I can do. So if working out without protein in me does cause muscle loss Ill let you all know, cuz Im sure I’ll notice. I look at myself quite a bit in the gym =)
[quote]Bizmark wrote:
Well guys, I just got done with spring break where I had a great time partying my ass off (don’t worry I made sure to stick to hard liquor so I was still following AD proticol). It seems that I somehow lost 10 lbs over the course of that week.
I didn’t eat much at all, but it seems to have been all fat or water loss as I did make strength gains in the gym this week.
Anyway starting this week I’ve decided that this would be good time to run some experiments on myself, as I am cutting and I am almost never hungry anymore. So what I’ve been doing is keeping all my fats to either egg yolks, olive oil, or flax oil; eating only veggies for my carbs; and keeping my protein timed around working out.
So for instance, today I had a 5 egg pancake for breakfast (this is where I just cover the eggs and fry them), along with two table spoons of EVOO and some fish oil caps. Then for the rest of the day until I worked out I just had olive oil (its weird because I never get hungry anymore, so I forget to even have my olive oil sometimes).
After working out I had a protein shake, and then 1.5 hours later I had another 5 egg pancake.
The test here is to see if I will lose any muscle while dieting down and going for about 7-8 hours during my day without any protein, and then working out.
I’ve been doing this since monday and so far my energy has been fine in the gym and stable all day long. And the reason I am doing this is because there has been so much debate over whether this diet will go catabolic without ample amounts of protein throughout the day. I know that you guys who hike alot were discussing this earlier.
This may not be the best test for it, but its the best I can do. So if working out without protein in me does cause muscle loss Ill let you all know, cuz Im sure I’ll notice. I look at myself quite a bit in the gym =)[/quote]
wow what a trooper…good luck
You mean actually sample said delicacy so as to speak from personal experience? Can’t be doing that…lol
I absolutely love pancakes so I assume buckwheat pancakes wouldn’t be too much of a stretch. Plus the fact that you commented about them twice really makes me thimk they might be worthwhile
[quote]bkmacky9288 wrote:
have you ever tried them?!?!?!? throw some berries in the mix some honey and PRESTO!!! deliciousness[/quote]
[quote]OMC wrote:
You mean actually sample said delicacy so as to speak from personal experience? Can’t be doing that…lol
I absolutely love pancakes so I assume buckwheat pancakes wouldn’t be too much of a stretch. Plus the fact that you commented about them twice really makes me thimk they might be worthwhile
bkmacky9288 wrote:
have you ever tried them?!?!?!? throw some berries in the mix some honey and PRESTO!!! deliciousness
[/quote]
o believe me they are 
i just added them two weeks ago and i eat them all day
i can attest to their scrumptiousness too 
they’re more wholesome than stuff normal buttermilk pancakes. it’s like good hearty wholegrain bread compared to fluffy white. and they turn out much crispier for me than normal pancake mix.
[quote]bkmacky9288 wrote:
OMC wrote:
You mean actually sample said delicacy so as to speak from personal experience? Can’t be doing that…lol
I absolutely love pancakes so I assume buckwheat pancakes wouldn’t be too much of a stretch. Plus the fact that you commented about them twice really makes me thimk they might be worthwhile
bkmacky9288 wrote:
have you ever tried them?!?!?!? throw some berries in the mix some honey and PRESTO!!! deliciousness
o believe me they are i just added them two weeks ago and i eat them all day
[/quote]
End of week 4, including the start up phase and here are my stats over the weeks…Im happy:
3/03/2007 10/03/2007 17/03/2007 24/03/2007
Week 1 Week 2 Week 3 Week 4
208 206 206.8 205
36.9 36.8 36.7 36.6
38 37.8 37.6 37.5
45 45 45.5 45.7
17 17 17 17
51.5 52 52.2 52.5
26 26 26.2 26
15.9 15.5 15.5 15.5
Done on a Sat morning when I will be most flat, as such. Its going to plan for now, due to me wanting to gain lean muscle and lose fat, but I do know that this is mainly due to the fact that Im a newby to the diet.
When I do platuea, I will increase the calories, but for now, Im hovering around maintainence Calories during the week, and try and get a decent amount of carbs in on the weekend.
Thanks for the help along the way guys.
Its my bday tom, so Im goin out tonite!! Only live once, but I will have a huge casein drink before, along with sum trib tabs:)
Yay! Just started my 36 hour carbup. I was really craving the carbs this morning… sweating and shit, really on edge too. All I could think about was a bowl of cereal. So I got home and had 3 bowls of cereal, went and worked out, came home and had a peanutbutter and jelly sandwich and then had another bowl of cereal.
Tomorrow is gonna be all complex carbs, today was my little cheat. Anyway, Im still doing that experiment all next week. So far I havn’t really noticed much.
Also, raviraj, in the “gironda gems” book you sent me vince gironda said to start eating only fruits and vegetables if the high fat diet stops working for you. Said something about cleaning out your system. You may wanna read through that part, it was towards the middle. Anyway good luck.
On my fourth carb-up. The first three have been one day only. I feel really glycogen depleted, so I’m doing a 36 hour one this go-around.
Down 4 pounds in two weeks. (Not counting water loss; I do weigh-ins every Friday and go by that weight.) I didn’t drop cals the first two weeks. Aiming for 1.5-2 pounds of fat loss a week for the next 4-6 weeks.
I don’t miss carbs at all. I actually enjoy high-fat content foods like pesto, solid cheese, t-bone with the fatty strip left on, butter on the broccoli, etc.
I’m two months in, so the shift should be complete, or somewhere around that… it’s an on and off experience for me. This week was an off-week (didn’t do training due to fatigue and much much work-deadlines) so I’ll lower/shorten my carb up (only today). I’ll pick up training somewhere next week.
I’ve gained some fat over the last month or so too, but I’ll add some HIIT to my program as soon as I pick it up again.
Then, a question: I still often feel sore, dammit! When I take my morning shower for example, and I hold my hands above my head, my arms feel so … powerless? Almost like I don’t have the power to keep’em up there. I hope this problem goes away soon, cause it’s bugging me.
Also, I’m still being annoyed by a bit of a mental fog from time to time.
Is this common / sound familiar / does this signify something?
[quote]LVZzed wrote:
I’m two months in, so the shift should be complete, or somewhere around that… it’s an on and off experience for me. This week was an off-week (didn’t do training due to fatigue and much much work-deadlines) so I’ll lower/shorten my carb up (only today). I’ll pick up training somewhere next week.
I’ve gained some fat over the last month or so too, but I’ll add some HIIT to my program as soon as I pick it up again.
Then, a question: I still often feel sore, dammit! When I take my morning shower for example, and I hold my hands above my head, my arms feel so … powerless? Almost like I don’t have the power to keep’em up there. I hope this problem goes away soon, cause it’s bugging me.
Also, I’m still being annoyed by a bit of a mental fog from time to time.
Is this common / sound familiar / does this signify something?[/quote]
That happened to me for a while too, where i was really foggy and all that. Make sure your getting enough fat, I think that had something to do with it for me. I was taking in probably 40% of my kcal from fat. I upped it to 60% and felt fine all the time. When I drop below 55% i start feeling not to great. U may even need to experiment with over 60% of your kcal from fat.
Well I’ve been putting off starting this for a while…soccer just ended so I have no excuse.
I’m working out 4x a week lactic acid style (Meltdown/GBC style). However, this week I have 2 tests (Wed. and Fri.) Would it be a good idea to start? If I felt foggy could I just have a cup of coffee to get focused? Also, what about HOT-ROX on this diet?
Also, my 21st bday is april 11th, which would be the middle of the 3rd week. I will probably have made my “shift” by then, but will want to have some drinks on that wednesday, thursday, and friday.
Could I just have an early carb up? What would be the best way to structure this? Best drinks? Vodka and soda?
Thanks
[quote]solidgk wrote:
Well I’ve been putting off starting this for a while…soccer just ended so I have no excuse.
I’m working out 4x a week lactic acid style (Meltdown/GBC style). However, this week I have 2 tests (Wed. and Fri.) Would it be a good idea to start? If I felt foggy could I just have a cup of coffee to get focused? Also, what about HOT-ROX on this diet?
Also, my 21st bday is april 11th, which would be the middle of the 3rd week. I will probably have made my “shift” by then, but will want to have some drinks on that wednesday, thursday, and friday.
Could I just have an early carb up? What would be the best way to structure this? Best drinks? Vodka and soda?
Thanks[/quote]
start the monday after your birthday, then get serious. good luck and happy birthday.
[quote]xtolgax wrote:
start the monday after your birthday, then get serious. good luck and happy birthday.[/quote]
I could, but then I’ve got finals to study for…and I definately don’t want to be experiencing any fogginess! Would it be so bad to start on Monday and have a bit of a messy 3rd week?
[quote]Bizmark wrote:
That happened to me for a while too, where i was really foggy and all that. Make sure your getting enough fat, I think that had something to do with it for me. I was taking in probably 40% of my kcal from fat. I upped it to 60% and felt fine all the time. When I drop below 55% i start feeling not to great. U may even need to experiment with over 60% of your kcal from fat.[/quote]
I’ll up them then, gonna get me a huge breakfast right now, loaded with fat
The fog, I can live with. the soreness however is the one that REALLY annoys me. But I guess it’s normal somewhere, as glycogen is usually running low, that I have this ‘empty’ feeling in my muscles… hope it’ll pass.
[quote]solidgk wrote:
xtolgax wrote:
start the monday after your birthday, then get serious. good luck and happy birthday.
I could, but then I’ve got finals to study for…and I definately don’t want to be experiencing any fogginess! Would it be so bad to start on Monday and have a bit of a messy 3rd week?
[/quote]
Why not wait until after your finals so the shift does not affect anything? Just curious.
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Came across this today, and if there is anyone thinking about starting the AD and want a T-Nation contributors perspective, check these out:
Part 1:
http://www.T-Nation.com/findArticle.do?article=body_69eat
Part 2:
http://www.T-Nation.com/readTopic.do?id=459762&pageNo=0#1487739
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