And what a pretty sandwich she WAS.
Aw yeah! And thereās the money shot.
Right there.
[quote]synny wrote:
is there much difference between pure olice oil and EVOO?
cory how much cardio do you do and what type, heart rate? etc[/quote]
āā100% Pure Olive Oilā is often the lowest quality available in a retail store: better grades would have āvirginā on the label.ā
I must insist you donāt use it to fry foods.
Get EVOO packaged in an opaque tin or dark glass bottle, I personally wouldnāt bother with anything packaged in a clear glass bottle.
I also heard that plastics corrode much quicker in oil than in water so avoid plastic containers too.
The fats are extremely sensitive to heat, light and oxygen and will easily degrade and become toxic.
If you must fry, use butter. (BUTTER, not margerine/shortening).
http://udoerasmus.com/articles/udo/fthftk.htm
See also: Olive Oyl - Wikipedia
[quote]synny wrote:
whats the best way to cook lean burger patties? i tried in the gorge foreman grille and it sucks all the fats out, im guessing all of the good fats aswell
should i just cook it in a pan to it soaks in its own juice or?[/quote]
On the old thread someone cited a study and the foreman grill really doesnt strip away fats at all. Very marginally. Just the juices in there are comin out not necessarily too much fat
Ok I hate carb ups. I look like fucking santa clause. NO lolās!!! Hm I really hate carbsā¦Hm I seriously look like befor I ever liftedā¦quite discouraging. Ok this is it next weekend Im going 36 hours with just mixed berries, oats, and almond milk. Ugh I kept chowin on fruit popsicles with all my meals. And I eat so fucking much cuz I stay hungry. I get moobs with my carb loadsā¦fuck it.
Hm someone tell me something to change my mind or Im just gonna take a more sane approach and just eat a balanced diet for my bulk using nutrient timing. Relatively low carb everyday (3-4 serv./day). Serving oats for breakfast, Surge PWO, and a random carb source (clean) an hour after.
Pancakes made with:
1 egg
Water
WW flour
Tbsp baking powder
Demerara sugar
Raisins
2 tbsp PB
ā¦ and a little oatmeal just cos.
(fried in a little butter)
Great with a sugary black coffee (sipped VEEEERY slowly!).
Iāve hit the 5-5.5k calorie mark and I think the bloat is starting to set in, I think Iāll lay off for a while now hehe
Iāve realised today that I just wasnāt working out hard (intensity and volume) enough to really reap the benefits of the loads.
I can really imagine that Iām going to begin making some decent gains now that Iāve pulled my head out of my ass and straightened a lot of things out.
I hate looking at my fucking default. The body Ive always wanted compared to these lov handles, bloated gut, and forming moobs cuz of the stupid carb loads. Its my fault thoughā¦I let myself chow down on the junk saying oh my glycogen storesā¦fuck that. I need to structure this shit or Im just going to look like my FFB self just stronger
[quote]bkmacky9288 wrote:
I hate looking at my fucking default. The body Ive always wanted compared to these lov handles, bloated gut, and forming moobs cuz of the stupid carb loads. Its my fault thoughā¦I let myself chow down on the junk saying oh my glycogen storesā¦fuck that. I need to structure this shit or Im just going to look like my FFB self just stronger[/quote]
Haha Iām sorry but I lolled.
I feel exactly the same.
Carb-time rolls around and I literally canāt even fucking sleep the night before and I wake up extra early because my body is so desperate for the carby goodness.
I munch away, 1k, 2k, 3k goes by and I feel kinda bloated but strong and pretty pumped.
Then I get a huge sugar rush and start jittering around the place like a madman, laughing to myself one minute then stretching and yawning the next.
Then I start to feel how you feel now, remorseful as hell haha and cursing the idea of carb-ups.
I end up looking like a monstrosity again and my energy levels start to dither away, I feel more and more lethargic but with some strange buzz remaining constant in my head preventing me from fully winding down.
Of course, through all of this the appetite is still there, like a little devil on my shoulder whispering recipe ideas into my ear haha.
I like to think Iāve kept this load clean but Iāve been taking way too much sugar (I think).
Iām going to continue up until my PWO meal tomorrow, assuming I donāt REALLY go nuts anymore tonight and make myself ill like a few weeks ago.
Off the top of my head, today Iāve had:
2 x TWO FEET baguettes loaded with
PB
2 Apples
2 Bananas
Too many raisins
Iāve had the pancakes mentioned above which, I forgot to mention, had nutmeg in them too.
Red grapes (though the water content might have brought on the bloat)
2 cups approx. of oatmeal with yet more raisins, a little flax, nutmeg.
Gah my mind is fried, who knows what elseā¦
Iāve moving over to spaghetti, sweet potato and brown rice if I eat anymore today and thatāll be what I have tomorrow (and more oats for breakfast, probably).
ughnā¦
(Incase you wondered, I recently got a camera hehe)
[quote]bkmacky9288 wrote:
Ok I hate carb ups. I look like fucking santa clause. NO lolās!!! Hm I really hate carbsā¦Hm I seriously look like befor I ever liftedā¦quite discouraging. Ok this is it next weekend Im going 36 hours with just mixed berries, oats, and almond milk. Ugh I kept chowin on fruit popsicles with all my meals. And I eat so fucking much cuz I stay hungry. I get moobs with my carb loadsā¦fuck it.
Hm someone tell me something to change my mind or Im just gonna take a more sane approach and just eat a balanced diet for my bulk using nutrient timing. Relatively low carb everyday (3-4 serv./day). Serving oats for breakfast, Surge PWO, and a random carb source (clean) an hour after. [/quote]
although I think that idea may be better you gotta relax lol. Try this method for a few weeks or longer and see how things go. Obviously your going to see a huge change in how you look during the carb ups, especially if your leaner.
if your not sure youve done the 1st 12 days right, should i do a couple more days on P and F only?
its just that i went away for 2 days, didnt have many carbs but I think i went over about 30g more than i should of over the 2 days. i ate corn and like a mouthful of potatoes, diet soft drink, subway (no bread) with carrots n shit like thatā¦
and how can u tell when your body goes from carb burnign to fat burning?
and is there anything wrong with having 4-5 30ml shots of EVOO every day?
wow Sonido your quite the psychic! thatās exactly what its like! I think the half gallon of almond milk I ingested for my oats bloated me. Yea I just need to chill out! Im going to continue with the diet and start counting net carbs from veggies just because Im curious to see what my net really is since I take in around 15-20 net coming from whey, nuts, and pnutty w/out counting veggies.
What are your thoughts on working out during loads?
I decided to push todayās workout back to tomorrow when Iām feeling stronger and more energetic after the load.
Yesterdayās workout was a bit shitty because I just felt/feel kindaā¦ woozy.
Doing tomorrow means Iāll have 4 consecutive work days but that should be ok as long as I pace myself and eat enough (not to mention sleep enough).
Also, are there any new developments in regard to P/F ratios on loads?
I wanted to make a pretty immense steak sandwich today which would drop me about 100g protein in one hit and I wondered if that might not be optimal, or even counterproductive?
Sonido, you bring up another point about the AD I supremely disagree with. Why would you tailor your workouts SO MUCH around the diet? I understand the thought of necessity in THEORY, however in practice, Iāve never had a problem. As for how I feel on the AD, I imagine I could go without a carb load forever. That makes me wonder what the point is and also, how my body is functioning internally since it seems to be doing fine.
[quote]synny wrote:
and is there anything wrong with having 4-5 30ml shots of EVOO every day?
[/quote]
Aside from the fact that thatās about 1200cals, I wouldnāt say so. However, I think itād be easier to take the oil in the form of food rather than beverage; over salads, vegetables, meat, etc.
[quote]synny wrote:
is there anything wrong with having 4-5 30ml shots of EVOO every day?
[/quote]
Is there anything wrong with eating my own height in baguettes in a 24 hour period? haha
Alright, since I do well off by planning Im going to just eat X amount of cals for my load that I have during the week. It was so stupid in the first place to treat my refeeds as if I were in an extreme dieting phase trying to upregulate my leptin or somethin. Silly silly mackyā¦
Hey guys, Iāve got a question about calories on the mass building phase.
As far as the amount of calories, if I want to gain 10 pounds and be 175ā¦then I need to eat 175 x 25 calories a day, which comes out to 4375, or 30625 a week.
So is there going to be any problem eating about 3700 calories on the weekdays and then a total of around 11,000 calories for the carb up? In the book he mentions itās ok to reach a weekly goal, but judging from some posts in the old AD thread this seems a bit extreme.
If youād like to try it, go ahead. Youād be contributing to the information.
However, as per my experience, and pumped spoke of this with me, I feel the sudden overload on energy balance can only bring fat gain. I think it should be gradual.
If you want to try, do it for a week or two and assess your fat gain and gym performance/muscle gain, if any. That way, if it is a mistake, you donāt do any real damage to put you behind and can fix the approach easily.
I would be extremely curious to see the effects of such a jump in calorie intake.