[quote]Smallfry69 wrote:
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I agree with most of this, however my teamwork and such is fine. I have no problem working with anyone in that office or getting stuff done.
There is a big conformity question and a social norm exists everywhere people get together, and if you interact with that group, like it or not there is a pressure to conform and some type of punishment for not conforming.
I’m not an easily indoctrinated person and I have to really believe in something to get behind it. Even by saying that my independence is more important than being a part of that culture and am willing to accept the punishments, I may have easily offended someone.
I think most reasonable people are like that to some degree, they work at jobs because they get some amount of satisfaction from the work and get paid. If either of those things are gone, most importantly the pay, they will leave the job.
Some people, have a very devoted attitude towards things. They are in there and doing whatever it takes, even molding themselves to appear more presentable and polished to others. My one coworker is like this, the one going after his PhD, and he is 100% career focused. I respect him and look up more to him than most simply because the amount of dedication he has to the cause. I will inevitably end up butting heads with him, as he is more than willing to change who he is and the face he represents to others to fit with this norm. He never drinks, I brewed a batch of beer and let some guys in the office sample it and he couldn’t finish 1 because he was getting tipsy, and was telling me he is experimenting with booze just so if he is out to dinner he can order a drink if the other person is drinking.
Its the positive/negative face thing again, where he is catering to that person’s positive face by affirming their actions by mimicing them. If I was him I would say no thanks I don’t drink, as it is my choice and by having a drink solely because they are is damaging my negative face.
Now, learning how to drink and making yourself more presentable is fine and I would also say necessary.
The problem then becomes how far do you take it, because at some point a line may be crossed where you can end up comprising your own values and ideals, just to fit in with a group. For example, peer pressure when you are younger, trying to fit a suburban middle class ideal, etc.
I guess I’m independent to fault and its not that I am unable to devote myself 100% to things, but it would take something seriously meaningful to get me behind it 100%.
Molding myself to climb a corporate ladder in an existing company with certain ideals and norms will be much harder than starting my own business or getting involved with a younger startup that I am able to be a part of and mold to my own ideals and values.
My office is not bad in that we are young, separated from HQ, and have our own clients and niche that our office is working with. I need to remember, and I think a lot of others do too, that people are able to actively assert their values, ideals, norms, and ways of being to change the world around them, instead of assigning themselves to obeying an established way of being.