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[quote]FlawlessCowboy wrote:
Interesting. I’m going to throw out a question…

Must all elementary teachers have kids before they can teach in an elementary school?

I have friends that will be teaching in elementary schools next year, and none of them have kids of their own at this time. It seems to me that they will play a part in raising those children. Would none of their opinions/thoughts be valid on this thread because they do not have children of their own?

-FC

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Very good point. I just wanted to add daycare workers who are trained how to take care of younger children and infants and know how to help with their development during this critical time in their lives, and while their parents are working.

Yes it’s the parent’s responsibility to raise their children, but during the few hours when they trust others to take care of them, I would hope that whether the daycare workers have children of their own or not isn’t one of the ways that one judges his/her ability to work with children.

There are many people more qualified to raise children, who don’t have any themselves, than others with many children.

They learn from research and training, just like anyone else does in just about every aspect of life as a human being. Otherwise, everyone is just re-inventing the wheel.

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None of you know children enough until you can get one to laugh while you get ready to inject them with a 1" needle.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
I don’t think anyone found that interesting enough…thus pages of parental issues. [/quote]

So I noticed!

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[quote]The3toedSloth wrote:
You must have missed this, then.

|/ 3Toes
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Yup! Buried in the aforementioned parental issues.

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[quote]SWR-1222D wrote:
There are many people more qualified to raise children, who don’t have any themselves, than others with many children.

They learn from research and training, just like anyone else does in just about every aspect of life as a human being. [/quote]

Exactly.

If I ever have to explain to a child where babies come from I’ll just use my Taun Taun action figure to demonstrate.

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[quote]ZEB wrote:

It’s not that the are going to be “Offended.” That is actually pretty funny prof…(shaking head).

It has to do with control over what your kids see at a certain age. I know you don’t get it…
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Well, hold on to your hat, ZEB, but I’ve heard that a lot of kids see wet pussy and a hell of a lot of boob on the very day they are born! What’s more, their parents let them, and even encourage it!!! Thank god, caesarian section and soy formula in a bottle seem to be gradually putting an end to this kind of irresponsible immorality. :wink:

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Oh my god I touched my mom’s pussy!!!

Holy fricking shit.

I never thought about it that way.

My mom will tell you (how does that count for openness) and I can see it in several of my past lady friends. Over protective parents that shield their kids from sex make it hard on them as adults. They have to figure out all the “stuff” on their own.

No one is arguing that they should go out and get laid at 14 but as professor and I have both said to teach them responsibility for their actions for a situation when you aren’t around. Basically to raise them so at 18+ they can go out the door and be fully functional beings.

Down with sexual repression. Nudity and sex rule.

PS. You don’t need to have kids to know kids and how to raise them. Hell I don’t have kids and I can watch people in Wal-Mart who shouldn’t even have been allowed to breed, telling kids to cheat the system and take what you can get. It is called values, instill some and don’t be afraid to let people acknowledge beauty. Sex is not bad. Nudity isn’t bad. Jeebas people, even god didn’t cover us up until adam and eve figured out they were naked.

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[quote]hardcore_balla wrote:
Professor X,

Hit it right on the head.

I may not have kids but I did stay at a holiday inn last night.

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Ok, that’s funny.

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[quote]Tech9 wrote

If I ever have to explain to a child where babies come from I’ll just use my Taun Taun action figure to demonstrate.[/quote]

This was funny, too.

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[quote]ZEB wrote:
Professor X wrote:

Truer words never spoken. It is the same argument I have with many about “porn”. Kids wouldn’t find a naked body offensive if they were never taught to find it offensive.

This is the type of foolish statement which proves you to be inexperienced in these matters.

It’s not that the are going to be “Offended.” That is actually pretty funny prof…(shaking head).

It has to do with control over what your kids see at a certain age. I know you don’t get it…

Again…have some kids and come back and talk to me.

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many people have kids, doesnt stop you being an idiot.

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[quote]Tech9 wrote:

Exactly.

If I ever have to explain to a child where babies come from I’ll just use my Taun Taun action figure to demonstrate.[/quote]

Hey Tech: I think your Guerre des Etoiles box is a bit foutu. The Taun Tauns did not appear in Le Retour du Jedi, but in L’Empire Contre-Attaque!

Merde!

:wink:

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From personal experience, I believe people who were overly sheltered and shielded from impressions of death, sex, violence, illness, etc. during childhood suffer most when life catches up. And catch up it will, yet not necessarily at the point in time the parents deem right.

I consider growth a process that should take place on all lines of development, albeit at an adequate pace, of course. In my opinion, randomly singling out one specific aspect like sex and insulating it will only increase the person’s curiosity and drive in that direction.

For the record, I don’t have children and don’t intend on getting any. I don’t consider this relevant with regard to the validity of the above stated observation, though. Not being in a certain situation, for example having children, may exclude me from knowing how it feels to be in that situation, but not essentially from knowing something about the situation.

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[quote]Varqanir wrote:
Tech9 wrote:

Exactly.

If I ever have to explain to a child where babies come from I’ll just use my Taun Taun action figure to demonstrate.

Hey Tech: I think your Guerre des Etoiles box is a bit foutu. The Taun Tauns did not appear in Le Retour du Jedi, but in L’Empire Contre-Attaque!

Merde!

:wink:
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Très juste!

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I’m am always facinated when everyone jumps on the "oh my god nudity on TV, Magazines, web, whatever. You really wanna protect little Johnnie? Do something about the fact that 90% of the people in movies and TV smoke. I would much rather have my kid looking at Pam Anderson (or who ever strikes your fancy) than having him think the ass-hole “tough” guy with the cigarette is cool. I don’t think anyone has ever grown up and raped a woman because they saw some girls chest, ass or whatever but the majority of kids that smoke start because it was cool. Problem is, the majority will never grow out of it and will continue until they die (literally). Oh and don’t tell me about raising kids, I raised a handful with several wives and girlfriends and none of them have any sexual problems and oh yeah, they don’t smoke.

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[quote]ZEB wrote:
How many kids do you have mr know it all? None I suspect.[/quote]

Does this mean having never been President, your not going to vote?

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[quote]RoadWarrior wrote:
I’m am always facinated when everyone jumps on the "oh my god nudity on TV, Magazines, web, whatever. You really wanna protect little Johnnie? Do something about the fact that 90% of the people in movies and TV smoke. I would much rather have my kid looking at Pam Anderson (or who ever strikes your fancy) than having him think the ass-hole “tough” guy with the cigarette is cool. I don’t think anyone has ever grown up and raped a woman because they saw some girls chest, ass or whatever but the majority of kids that smoke start because it was cool. Problem is, the majority will never grow out of it and will continue until they die (literally).[/quote]

Knocking up some chick while you are still in junior high will fuck up your life a lot faster than getting lung cancer when you are 60.

How exactly did you “raise them” with several wifes and girlfriends. I only have 24 hours in a day, and it’s spread thin with only 1 wife and 2 kids.

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Outstanding! You know, Road Warrior, you are the first man I’ve encountered outside of a Muslim country…or Utah…who has his own harem. I suppose you must be a devoted user of Alpha Male.

I’m curious, though: do all of your wives and girlfriends more or less get along with each other, or do you constantly have to keep them from clawing each other’s eyes out?

:wink:

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[quote]ZEB wrote:
malonetd wrote:
I get what you are saying, but that’s not the point here. You are trying to insert a new argument into this post.

Not really, it’s the same argument. I do plead guilty on trying to expand it however :wink:

The item originally being discussed was an avatar on T-Nation.com, formerly Testosterone.com. This is the same website that posts a scantily clad powerful image once a week; the same website where the editor-in-chief posts an article about his penis once every Friday.

And both of those things can be either blocked or avoided as you know what is coming. Someones avatar is simply THERE. Sort of like flipping the radio station and hearing Stern blurt out a word that is not suitable for a child.

Of course I don’t have that particular problem anymore as he is gone from the air waves and I don’t have satellite radio. That was a happy day :slight_smile:

Nobody is shoving this website into you or your children’s faces.

And that is the exact argument espoused by all liberals! Congrats you did it!

Your argument is that someone with a child can simply avoid this stuff. But as we can see one adult who thought he had everything blocked could not avoid seeing someone’s avatar SHOVED IN HIS FACE.

And when you drive down the street and see a billboard that should be rated “R” that too is SHOVED in a childs face.

And when you pass the newsstand and see an inappropriate cover that too is SHOVED in a childs face.

And when you are watching television and a commercial comes on which depicts a more adult themed program that too is SHOVED in a childs face.

And when you flip the radio station and had (past tense:) to listen to Stern, that too is SHOVED in a childs face.

Look, I have said it before: there is a time and place for everything. But those who don’t think that this society is sex (and violence) obsessed and that it can and has harmed children should really think twice!

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And the solution to this is what? I mean, you know, besides censorship.

Sex sells, and so the media produces it. There doesn’t seem to be a way to change this, so we just kinda have ta live with it. Unless you censor it. Complaining about it doesn’t really change anything.

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[quote]cap’nsalty wrote:
And the solution to this is what? I mean, you know, besides censorship.

Sex sells, and so the media produces it. There doesn’t seem to be a way to change this, so we just kinda have ta live with it. Unless you censor it. Complaining about it doesn’t really change anything.[/quote]

But does somebody have a solution to … peer pressure?

At first I thought, “the fact that others do not have values and allow their girls to dress like prostitutes wouldn’t be a problem because I would have done my best to teach her old-shool values”.

But then peer pressure eventually rears its ugly head. Either the “everybody’s doing it so why can’t I” argument comes up, or the child/teen will try to do it behind my back.

That being said, since neither censorship, nor complaining, nor good parenting, nor social conditioning is not the solution to all cases … do we have to consider that up to a point, people will do what they damn want to do?

Somewhere I good parenting goes farther than the “Do and give what you can with what you have, let life handle the rest” conclusion.

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[quote]BIGRAGOO wrote:
ZEB wrote:
I’m sorry, I don’t think I was very clear, let me try again.

It’s not the medias duty, to prompt a discussion regarding sex. It’s my duty (and my wifes) to have those talks with my children. And we are not “hiding” anything from them. We are very open and honest.

It’s all part of parenting.

An that was the whole point of this before the long posts. As a parent I make sure I am on top of as much new information my son gets. I am there to explain or show things he doesn’t understand. However, this society runs off of sexually charged material. it may not be the perfect way of selling a product, but it works.[/quote]

Really, only over the past 30 years or so has it gone over the edge.

I agree, but why does the media have to make it so much more difficult-They didn’t used to.

Are we (as parents) tolerating things that parents in past years wouldn’t think of tolerating?

Very well said!