They picked on the wrong people when they attacked America. One day, they’ll strike again and the infection all around the world will be stamped out.
Maybe you picked on the wrong people when you attacked them.
Just imagine an Arab leader, after causig the death of 500000 Americans, going on the record that “it was worth it”.
There are relationships like the Israelis and the Palestinians where the partners truly deserve each other.
When did we attack the terrorists in Iraq? I remember attacking Saddam because he was threatening us. But I don’t recall when we attacked them.
Was it before or after the USS Cole, the Marine barracks in Lebanon, or when?
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Waaaay before…
Iran, Lebanon, bases in their holy land, support of Saddam against Iran pretty one sided support of Israel, attempted assassinations of their leaders and so on…
It is like the US is this big mean bully that needs to beat up someone occasionally (I am paraphrasing JeffR here) to feel good about itself and suddenly stumbles about the one kid in the schoolyard that is as crazy as a shithouse rat and just won`t back down no matter what.
[quote]orion wrote:
It is like the US is this big mean bully that needs to beat up someone occasionally (I am paraphrasing JeffR here) to feel good about itself and suddenly stumbles about the one kid in the schoolyard that is as crazy as a shithouse rat and just won`t back down no matter what.
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You think our current leaders aren’t fucking crazy?! That’s what these people expect, its what they want. Retards like JeffR and HH don’t get it.
[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
orion wrote:
It is like the US is this big mean bully that needs to beat up someone occasionally (I am paraphrasing JeffR here) to feel good about itself and suddenly stumbles about the one kid in the schoolyard that is as crazy as a shithouse rat and just won`t back down no matter what.
You think our current leaders aren’t fucking crazy?! That’s what these people expect, its what they want. Retards like JeffR and HH don’t get it.
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No, I honestly think that they are bought and paid for by the weapons and oil industry.
Mercenaries like Blackwater should allready have enough money for huge campaign contributions too, for a lot of US companies war is nothing but a business and they pay to keep it going.
[quote]Sloth wrote:
Here’s my issue with Lixy. He hops up and down about the wrongs of the US, yet his religion is oppressing and killing so many (yes, including muslims). Look at the Middle-east, Asia, and Africa. Look at the plight of women, religious minorities, apostates, heretics, etc., etc. But, his posts are lopsidedly directed at skewering US policy.
Oh sure, when pressed, he gives the token “a few bad Islamic apples” reply. Yet, time and again, he downplays the interventionism of Islamic regimes and groups, their oppression, their brutality, their responsibility in prolonging the Israeli/Palestinian conflict, blah, blah, blah.
You really want to fix the middle-east, regions of Africa and Asia? Fix Islam before worrying about the US.
I’m predicting his token response (few bad apples), before he makes his next 20 “bullying US” themed posts.
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Along with a distorted version of reality conveniently altered to suite his needs. Diliberate? You be the judge.
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Every time someone asks a question like this I wonder if they even have a hint of good in their heart but whatever. Let me repost here to give you a small primer.
Terrorists are not literally fundamentalists or true muslims. There is a growing number of muslims attempting to understand the religion for themselves by reading english interpretations or attempting to understand the Quran and Hadith (prophetic traditions) on their own.
This is probably due to the fact that most muslims feel disconnected from their religion and don’t know how to ‘reconnect’. Plus the loss of the original Arabic language is a big issue.
This creates problems as the only people who should be authorized to advise and issue fatwas (rulings) are those who:
Are extremely knowledgeable in classical Arabic and ‘Balagha’ or Arabic metaphorical study, necessary to understand the Quran and Hadith.
Have memorized the Quran.
Have memorized the authentic Hadith and their chains of narration.
Have other faculties of knowledge such as mathematics, sciences etc.
A desire to learn and gain knowledge to find the truth and to please Allah (God).
This used to be characteristic of Islamic scholars back during the beginning of Islam. I could name a ton like Imam Malik, Imam Ibn Qayyim etc.
Unfortunately, finding sheikhs and muftis like this now is RARE. Before however, they were quite common.
This is the reason why most kids nowadays are going towards terrorism. People with political agendas warp what little grasp of meaning they have of Islam, and snare these kids in to do their bidding.
[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
orion wrote:
It is like the US is this big mean bully that needs to beat up someone occasionally (I am paraphrasing JeffR here) to feel good about itself and suddenly stumbles about the one kid in the schoolyard that is as crazy as a shithouse rat and just won`t back down no matter what.
You think our current leaders aren’t fucking crazy?! That’s what these people expect, its what they want. Retards like JeffR and HH don’t get it.
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Without rancor, what do you think of all our leaders being either Council on Foreign Relations or Trilateralists? Condi is CFR, Cheney is Trilateral, many high ranking Congressmen are one or the other. What’s your take?
Before you put people down as conspiracy whackos, btw, google Carroll Quigley — a CFR insider, Prof at Harvard, Dept of Defense Advisor, and so on.