[quote]jre67t wrote:
Im not saying this is true, but there is speculation that it might be a man competing.
Just a thought.[/quote]
Actually, she wasn’t even in the track event, she was running away from an angry mob who wanted to stone her for driving a car and getting raped. (FYI, I am totally against women drivers)
[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
The fact is that women in this country and I’m sure others have fought very hard for equal rights, why is it any different because religion comes into play when women of another culture are treated with less respect. [/quote]
Bahraini women couldn’t vote up until 2002. Not that it changes anything really. The power is concentrated in the hands of the royal family anyway.
But although superficial and cosmetic, the “reforms” and encouragements of the Bahraini government for feminist movements is generating momentum around the place.
In 2005, women were considered equal to men for the first time in Kuwait (funny how little we hear about the dreadful status of women there and how much we hear about the evils of Iranians where feminism is ahead by leaps and bounds).
Which is clearly a result of those movements in Bahraini. You gotta give them credit for that much.
Of course, when you realize that a majority of Bahraini women are opposed to the idea of voting for other women, you may want to shut your yap and let people determine their own destiny.
I know my fair share of veiled women, and none of them has ever been forced to wear anything. They do it by choice.
This athlete might be in the same boat. I don’t really know, and neither do you. But what is certain, is that they have the right to decide what’s acceptable or not in their society. Not me. Not you.
There’s a quite important movement here in Sweden fighting for women’s right to swim topless. The issue is taken very seriously. So far, they failed to achieve equality in that particular domain. Not because of religion either.
You don’t come off as disrespectful. Just terribly misinformed.
Try not to amalgamate culture with religion. And while you’re at it, learn a thing or two about religions you want to
i wonder what their swimmers’d wear?
[quote]lixy wrote:
jehovasfitness wrote:
The fact is that women in this country and I’m sure others have fought very hard for equal rights, why is it any different because religion comes into play when women of another culture are treated with less respect.
Bahraini women couldn’t vote up until 2002. Not that it changes anything really. The power is concentrated in the hands of the royal family anyway.
But although superficial and cosmetic, the “reforms” and encouragements of the Bahraini government for feminist movements is generating momentum around the place.
In 2005, women were considered equal to men for the first time in Kuwait (funny how little we hear about the dreadful status of women there and how much we hear about the evils of Iranians where feminism is ahead by leaps and bounds).
Which is clearly a result of those movements in Bahraini. You gotta give them credit for that much.
Of course, when you realize that a majority of Bahraini women are opposed to the idea of voting for other women, you may want to shut your yap and let people determine their own destiny.
Why should they have to wear something to cover their whole body because the men of that country/religion can’t seem to have an open mind and realize it’s not 200 A.D anymore…
I know my fair share of veiled women, and none of them has ever been forced to wear anything. They do it by choice.
This athlete might be in the same boat. I don’t really know, and neither do you. But what is certain, is that they have the right to decide what’s acceptable or not in their society. Not me. Not you.
There’s a quite important movement here in Sweden fighting for women’s right to swim topless. The issue is taken very seriously. So far, they failed to achieve equality in that particular domain. Not because of religion either.
Maybe I’m way off and being offensive here. I’m not trying to be disrespectful, quite the opposite.
You don’t come off as disrespectful. Just terribly misinformed.
Try not to amalgamate culture with religion. And while you’re at it, learn a thing or two about religions you want to [/quote]
lixy I agree folks shouldn’t assume that she is being forced to wear what she is wearing, but maybe we also shouldn’t assume that every woman in Bahrain is content and agreeable to the constraints of their religion.
I am sure there are both sides to that.
Some who follow the strictures of their religion with contentment and no discomfort, and some who follow it because if they don’t there would be repercussions and are hoping for a change.
let’s try not to assert that any culture/nature/religion (what have you) has a system of belief of which each and every one of their citizens follows with total adherence and are happy to do so.
She thought she could Ninja-sneak her way into the finals wearing her maroon colored Ninja suit.
She got pwn3d, hard, lol
I won’t lie. I was at work and laughed my ass off, for about 10 seconds then it wasn’t funny anymore.
[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:
lixy I agree folks shouldn’t assume that she is being forced to wear what she is wearing, but maybe we also shouldn’t assume that every woman in Bahrain is content and agreeable to the constraints of their religion.
I am sure there are both sides to that.[/quote]
You’d be hard pressed to find any sort of consensus on the large countries’ populations we’re dealing with nowadays. Heck, the royalist movement in France is alive and well. So yeah, what you wrote is common sense.
But please note that I never said anything about every woman in Bahrain being content. To cite just the most prominent example:
Ok.
Again, nobody asserted that.
When my aunt was in Thailand, she saw a Muslim woman waterskiing with everything covered except her eyes.
I don’t find it particularly funny, but it doesn’t bother me at all if other people find it amusing.
[quote]Steel Nation wrote:
entheogens wrote:
I don’t mean to be disrespectful, but the Muslim female sprinter in last night’s 200 meter sprint looked hilarious.
Anybody else get a laugh out of it?
Yep, she looks ridiculous.[/quote]
lol, agreed
SHe doesn’t look any funnier than the speed skaters do in their hoods.
Why does it even matter? I you are so caught up in what they are wearing, maybe you should be watching that ghey-assed show on Discovery Channel instead of the olympics.
Hahahaha agree, the speed skaters look completely ridiculous. But so does she… and anyone who wears Crocs for that matter.
[quote]lixy wrote:
There’s a quite important movement here in Sweden fighting for women’s right to swim topless. The issue is taken very seriously. So far, they failed to achieve equality in that particular domain. Not because of religion either.
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That is quite important. And serious.
[quote]lixy wrote:
I know my fair share of veiled women, and none of them has ever been forced to wear anything. They do it by choice. [/quote]
Let me guess, you live in Saudi Arabia, right?
[quote]
This athlete might be in the same boat. I don’t really know, and neither do you. But what is certain, is that they have the right to decide what’s acceptable or not in their society. Not me. Not you.[/quote]
Wait, what? Nah, I’m a cultural imperialist. Women should be allowed to choose what they wear without fear of persecution or prosecution. I believe in “human rights” not “cultural rights.” If a culture says it’s okay to force women to wear a particular style of dress, I find that repulsive and will work to change the culture. Period. I’d do the same to a society that said women can’t vote, or one that took away any number of rights from women. Or one that persecutes women or allows for their persecution.
How far would you take the idea of [quote]they have the right to decide what’s acceptable or not in their society[/quote]? style of dress? Right to vote? Honor killings?
Also, do you think women actually have the right to decide what is acceptable in Bahrain?
(That being said, Bahrain is fairly “liberal” compared to its neighbors, not sure this is actually saying much though.)
[quote]rainjack wrote:
SHe doesn’t look any funnier than the speed skaters do in their hoods.
Why does it even matter? I you are so caught up in what they are wearing, maybe you should be watching that ghey-assed show on Discovery Channel instead of the olympics. [/quote]
Agreed.
I don’t give a fuck what they wear.
I give a fuck when they want to force everyone else to wear the same and are ready to kill for it.
Live and let live and they can wear Barney costumes for all I care.
[quote]flightspeed wrote:
lixy wrote:
There’s a quite important movement here in Sweden fighting for women’s right to swim topless. The issue is taken very seriously. So far, they failed to achieve equality in that particular domain. Not because of religion either.
That is quite important. And serious. [/quote]
Women can go topless in NY.
[quote]lixy wrote:
There’s a quite important movement here in Sweden fighting for women’s right to swim topless. The issue is taken very seriously. So far, they failed to achieve equality in that particular domain. Not because of religion either.
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Topless Swedish swimming, now THAT’s a cause I can rally behind.
[quote]rainjack wrote:
Why does it even matter? I you are so caught up in what they are wearing, maybe you should be watching that ghey-assed show on Discovery Channel instead of the olympics. [/quote]
As I said, the spectacle was hilarious (to me). So, it doesn’t matter, except for comic relief. Other than that, I respect the woman because I know that she had to struggle hard against the powers-that-be in her own culture just to compete in sprinting.
Why should I watch a ghey-assed show on the Discovery Channel, when I live in San Francisco 
[quote]Nikiforos wrote:
Topless Swedish swimming, now THAT’s a cause I can rally behind.[/quote]
Unless things have changed since when I was a student there, French women go topless at the swimming pools already. Gazongas galore!
[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
flightspeed wrote:
lixy wrote:
There’s a quite important movement here in Sweden fighting for women’s right to swim topless. The issue is taken very seriously. So far, they failed to achieve equality in that particular domain. Not because of religion either.
That is quite important. And serious.
Women can go topless in NY. [/quote]
LIBERATE! LIBERATE! LIBERATE!
Seriously though, I was pleasantly surprised by the fine display of female beauty in Beijing 2008.
I feared we’d get this…