Muscle Worship

[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
AdamC wrote:

Yeah what is it about gay guys that makes them horny fuckers?

Call me a stereotyping fuck but in my experience its true. I’ve been to gay clubs many times with my gf and other lady friends, and damn they like to get down.

My theory is that men basically want sex 24/7, and when you get men who like men all in the same room…it’s a recipe for some boshing. All i’m saying is if you were gay you’d get a lot more action haha

Exactly[/quote]

If you were bisexual, you’d get the best of both worlds. Or twice the opportunity to get rejected by BOTH sexes.

I work at a restaurant next to a gay bar. Sometimes I’ll bring an order to a group of gay dudes’ table and I’ll get that hard look “Well thank you very much…” Flattering, but a little scary, but still flattering. It’s just like “What can I say…”

[quote]AdamC wrote:
BigRagoo wrote:
Steel Nation wrote:
BigRagoo wrote:
Seriously, I was like “what. the. fuck” It confused the hell out of me.

You are confused? :wink:
[/quote]

Haha, I guess I walked into that one.

[quote]Blacksnake wrote:
BodyBldgBabe wrote:
Makes a single girl cry! Well, unless she’s asked to join or watch, that is!!! LOL ;->

I’m sorry, BBB, but as tolerant & open minded as I am, I cannot avoid a gut reaction of flat out disgust at such a scenario and would flee from a woman who was unprincipled enough to find such behavior acceptable…Please tell me you were not serious…[/quote]

I was thinking about you boys this morning while I was in the shower. (heeheehee)

The double standards given for men and women in regards to sex is really getting old.

Two grown adults consent to have sex on the 1st night they lay eyes on each other. The man is considered a stud while the woman is considered a slut.

Shoot, I say women all around the world should unite and put this ignorance to rest!!!

I’d like to see a group of ladies on girl’s night out where someone scans the room, points and says, “I want this one!” She walks up to the unexpecting fella and gives him some BS line about how she’s never reached climax orally and puts him to the challenge! Of course he’ll be more than happy to oblige her, he does own a penis ya know, so why would he say no?

She makes him pay for a nice hotel and wah-lah the magic begins!! After the magic is over and only she’s been satisfied she gets up, puts her clothes back on, and says, “Hey that was great! I’ll call ya sometime!” and goes back to the bar to meet her friends.

When she sees her friends she gives them a high-five, does a belly bounce, and shouts, “SCORE!!!”

Now that would be a great weekend!!!

Wachya think??? ;->

Hurt So Good, by
John Couger Mellansomething

Prison Sex, Tool (nuf said)

Anything by that Morsissy dude

I think ive met the girl of my dreams…

[quote]BodyBldgBabe wrote:
Blacksnake wrote:
BodyBldgBabe wrote:
Makes a single girl cry! Well, unless she’s asked to join or watch, that is!!! LOL ;->

I’m sorry, BBB, but as tolerant & open minded as I am, I cannot avoid a gut reaction of flat out disgust at such a scenario and would flee from a woman who was unprincipled enough to find such behavior acceptable…Please tell me you were not serious…

I was thinking about you boys this morning while I was in the shower. (heeheehee)

The double standards given for men and women in regards to sex is really getting old.

Two grown adults consent to have sex on the 1st night they lay eyes on each other. The man is considered a stud while the woman is considered a slut.

Shoot, I say women all around the world should unite and put this ignorance to rest!!!

I’d like to see a group of ladies on girl’s night out where someone scans the room, points and says, “I want this one!” She walks up to the unexpecting fella and gives him some BS line about how she’s never reached climax orally and puts him to the challenge! Of course he’ll be more than happy to oblige her, he does own a penis ya know, so why would he say no?

She makes him pay for a nice hotel and wah-lah the magic begins!! After the magic is over and only she’s been satisfied she gets up, puts her clothes back on, and says, “Hey that was great! I’ll call ya sometime!” and goes back to the bar to meet her friends.

When she sees her friends she gives them a high-five, does a belly bounce, and shouts, “SCORE!!!”

Now that would be a great weekend!!!

Wachya think??? ;->[/quote]

I think I cant go down on a chick the first night I lay eyes on her.

I don’t think I’d want to know if my girlfriend did that. She should probably keep that story a secret.

Oh and in response to an earlier post…

I found that most chicks would prefer a threesome with 2 chick, not so much 2 guys. Its win win for everyone.

Unless of course they’re lying.

[quote]AdamC wrote:
gone heavy wrote:

My theory is that men basically want sex 24/7, and when you get men who like men all in the same room…it’s a recipe for some boshing. All i’m saying is if you were gay you’d get a lot more action haha
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I guess there is less cock blocking going on amongst guys lol.

Maybe it just me, but in reference to the original post about the man-man massage, this reminds me of the Seinfeld episode where George gets a massage from a man instead of a woman, and when the massage therapist asks George to unzip his pants, the look on Costanza’s face is priceless.

[quote]BodyBldgBabe wrote:
A charming tale of human interaction.[/quote]

BBB you sound like a pretty upfront kind of lady so let me ask you a question.

Do women really want TRUE equality?

From what I observe they don’t, they appear to want to keep the good parts of the current imbalances and just lose the bad parts. More female empowerment than sexual equality.

Now don’t get me wrong it makes perfect sense to strive for the best possible arrangement you can find and I can’t blame you ladies for doing this, but why use the equality argument when you have no interest in equality?

Obviously there are exceptions and not all women are like this but I would say that when you hear what most women say they are looking for compared to what they expect to offer in return the scales are generally tipped in their favour.

Interested to hear your thoughts.

[quote]IQ wrote:
BodyBldgBabe wrote:
A charming tale of human interaction.

BBB you sound like a pretty upfront kind of lady so let me ask you a question.

Do women really want TRUE equality?

From what I observe they don’t, they appear to want to keep the good parts of the current imbalances and just lose the bad parts. More female empowerment than sexual equality.

Now don’t get me wrong it makes perfect sense to strive for the best possible arrangement you can find and I can’t blame you ladies for doing this, but why use the equality argument when you have no interest in equality?

Obviously there are exceptions and not all women are like this but I would say that when you hear what most women say they are looking for compared to what they expect to offer in return the scales are generally tipped in their favour.

Interested to hear your thoughts.[/quote]

I couldn’t help thinking the same thing.

I’m not sure if I’m reading to much into it, but this part seems to fit in quite nicely with what you are alluding to:

:wink:

[quote]IQ wrote:
BodyBldgBabe wrote:
A charming tale of human interaction.

BBB you sound like a pretty upfront kind of lady so let me ask you a question.

Do women really want TRUE equality?

From what I observe they don’t, they appear to want to keep the good parts of the current imbalances and just lose the bad parts. More female empowerment than sexual equality.

Now don’t get me wrong it makes perfect sense to strive for the best possible arrangement you can find and I can’t blame you ladies for doing this, but why use the equality argument when you have no interest in equality?

Obviously there are exceptions and not all women are like this but I would say that when you hear what most women say they are looking for compared to what they expect to offer in return the scales are generally tipped in their favour.

Interested to hear your thoughts.[/quote]

Good post. Most women still want free drinks, free hotel rooms, free rides in nice cars and free gifts. They basically want to be in control of absolutely everything but then claim they want a man who takes control.

It is my honest opinion that most women want everything in the world…until they get it.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
IQ wrote:
BodyBldgBabe wrote:
A charming tale of human interaction.

BBB you sound like a pretty upfront kind of lady so let me ask you a question.

Do women really want TRUE equality?

From what I observe they don’t, they appear to want to keep the good parts of the current imbalances and just lose the bad parts. More female empowerment than sexual equality.

Now don’t get me wrong it makes perfect sense to strive for the best possible arrangement you can find and I can’t blame you ladies for doing this, but why use the equality argument when you have no interest in equality?

Obviously there are exceptions and not all women are like this but I would say that when you hear what most women say they are looking for compared to what they expect to offer in return the scales are generally tipped in their favour.

Interested to hear your thoughts.

Good post. Most women still want free drinks, free hotel rooms, free rides in nice cars and free gifts. They basically want to be in control of absolutely everything but then claim they want a man who takes control.

It is my honest opinion that most women want everything in the world…until they get it.[/quote]

I don’t know. These type of women seem to exist more in the minds of T-Nationer heads than in reality.

They are out there for sure. But I just haven’t been involved with any as yet. At 25 though, perhaps that’s my age showing.

[quote]IQ wrote:
BodyBldgBabe wrote:
A charming tale of human interaction.

BBB you sound like a pretty upfront kind of lady so let me ask you a question.

Do women really want TRUE equality?

From what I observe they don’t, they appear to want to keep the good parts of the current imbalances and just lose the bad parts. More female empowerment than sexual equality.

Now don’t get me wrong it makes perfect sense to strive for the best possible arrangement you can find and I can’t blame you ladies for doing this, but why use the equality argument when you have no interest in equality?

Obviously there are exceptions and not all women are like this but I would say that when you hear what most women say they are looking for compared to what they expect to offer in return the scales are generally tipped in their favour.

Interested to hear your thoughts.[/quote]

Here I was just trying to be a smart@$$ and you guys get all serious on me!! :smiley:

Well IQ, Im just one girl in a sea of millions so I cant speak for anyone but myself. So I wouldn’t dare insult my “sisters” and speak for them.

I do think all or most women would agree to equal pay, and rightly so.

As far as relationships are concerned, some women prefer being in charge all the time, both at work and at home.

Personally Im very old fashioned. I like a guy to be my equal, yet know he’s “in charge”. I love a man to open the door, pull out my chair, etc., etc. To me there is nothing sexier than a man being manly because it makes me feel more womanly. (If that even makes any sense.)

Im in charge of a large department at a very busy hospital and when I come home the last thing I want to do is be in control of my man.

Heck, in a perfect world I’d love to be married, stay at home, and have dinner on the table for hubby when he walks in the door, and be his dessert afterwards! ;->

But the reality of it is Im single and usually have a protein shake, by myself, for dinner, and the only dessert I get is usally self induced! LOL Oh well…nothing’s perfect.

Equality sexually? Oh heck yeah…Im all for that! I defenitely think a woman should have the same right to sleep around (if she so chooses) and not be called a slut. A woman should be able to be open and honest about her sexuality and the desires/fetishes she has without being criticised or the man feeling intimidated. Women love sex, positions, orgasms, toys, and experimenting just as much as a man does.

In my experience I have found when a man is intimidated by me sexually its usually because he is lacking in self esteem and/or other areas of his life. I have no time for such men. I need someone who can keep up with me mentally, emotionally, financially, spiritually, physically, and sexually. If he cant…he needs to find someone else cuz I ain’t the girl for him!!

[quote]BodyBldgBabe wrote:
Here I was just trying to be a smart@$$ and you guys get all serious on me!! :smiley:

Well IQ, Im just one girl in a sea of millions so I cant speak for anyone but myself. So I wouldn’t dare insult my “sisters” and speak for them.

I do think all or most women would agree to equal pay, and rightly so.

As far as relationships are concerned, some women prefer being in charge all the time, both at work and at home.

Personally Im very old fashioned. I like a guy to be my equal, yet know he’s “in charge”. I love a man to open the door, pull out my chair, etc., etc. To me there is nothing sexier than a man being manly because it makes me feel more womanly. (If that even makes any sense.)

Im in charge of a large department at a very busy hospital and when I come home the last thing I want to do is be in control of my man.

Heck, in a perfect world I’d love to be married, stay at home, and have dinner on the table for hubby when he walks in the door, and be his dessert afterwards! ;->

But the reality of it is Im single and usually have a protein shake, by myself, for dinner, and the only dessert I get is usally self induced! LOL Oh well…nothing’s perfect.

Equality sexually? Oh heck yeah…Im all for that! I defenitely think a woman should have the same right to sleep around (if she so chooses) and not be called a slut. A woman should be able to be open and honest about her sexuality and the desires/fetishes she has without being criticised or the man feeling intimidated. Women love sex, positions, orgasms, toys, and experimenting just as much as a man does.

In my experience I have found when a man is intimidated by me sexually its usually because he is lacking in self esteem and/or other areas of his life. I have no time for such men. I need someone who can keep up with me mentally, emotionally, financially, spiritually, physically, and sexually. If he cant…he needs to find someone else cuz I ain’t the girl for him!! [/quote]

Good answer, and don’t worry your original humour wasn’t lost on me :wink:

I just find this an interesting subject and saw this as an opportunity to get another opinion.

As for pay and workplace conditions, as long as a person can do the job they deserve the pay regardless of their sex so no arguments there.

There is another side to equality in the workplace, we have now reached a situation where some men have to tread on egg shells from the fear of being accused with sexual discrimination, this doesn’t seem to work both ways as women can still say whatever they want and be as “touchy feely” as they like (which is fine by me for the record).

By my definition of equality the same people who fight for women’s rights should be fighting against this kind of inequality as you can’t pick and choose when it comes to equality, we are all either the same or we are not.

There is nothing wrong with being old fashioned as long as the woman who wants her man to be the traditional definition of a man is willing to be the traditional definition of a woman.

I respect that you say that you would want the traditional relationship in an ideal world. The issue I have is with the women who want parts of the traditional relationship but don’t want to keep up their part of the bargain (yeah I said it :smiley: ).

Now for the dessert. I would think that most men these days realise that women like sex too so if you’re with a woman that’s revealing all of her sexual desires she may want to fulfil them with you and that sounds good to me.

As for promiscuity that’s a tricky one because I think that’s all linked to traditional ideals, and on the one hand it’s fair to apply traditional ideals to women as long as they apply traditional ideals to men (purely in the interests of equality of course).

On the other hand personally I think that women should have the right to sexual liberation, throw off the shackles which have bound them thus far and accept all requests for sex that they receive :slight_smile:

In all seriousness, maybe it will change in time but old opinions die hard.

This might be for you…

[quote]BodyBldgBabe wrote:
I need someone who can keep up with me mentally, emotionally, financially, spiritually, physically, and sexually. If he cant…he needs to find someone else cuz I ain’t the girl for him!! [/quote]

Ha ha! Women are so demanding compared to men. Reminds me of that dave chapelle joke about the magazine article on 101 ways to please a man where he says ``there’s no such thing as 101 ways to please a man. All you need to know is 4 things, suck his dick, play with his balls, make him a sandwich, and don’t talk so damn much.‘’ see. men are easy to please.

[quote]robo1 wrote:
BodyBldgBabe wrote:
I need someone who can keep up with me mentally, emotionally, financially, spiritually, physically, and sexually. If he cant…he needs to find someone else cuz I ain’t the girl for him!!

Ha ha! Women are so demanding compared to men. Reminds me of that dave chapelle joke about the magazine article on 101 ways to please a man where he says ``there’s no such thing as 101 ways to please a man. All you need to know is 4 things, suck his dick, play with his balls, make him a sandwich, and don’t talk so damn much.‘’ see. men are easy to please.[/quote]

LOL!!!

[quote]Mr. Clean & Jerk wrote:
This thread’s kind of a train wreck, at this point. This kind of conversation is pretty dehumanizing of gays. Why the hell shouldn’t they have the same privileges of checking out what excites them?

To all you nay-sayers, do you honestly believe that all of the women whom you check out are just thrilled to have you eye-fuck them? The “violation” you feel is nothing you haven’t caused someone else to feel. Geez. Pretty thin skins here for guys who frequent a site called TESTOSTERONE Nation.

A vast majority of the non-trolls on this site presumably lift for aesthetics for some degree – for female attention.

So if you become a more attractive man, then all those who are attracted to men will respond. You can’t pick and choose.[/quote]
“You can’t pick and choose.”

fuck yes you can. when a woman says she wants to massage your muscles you take her home.

when a dude says the same, you whip his ass.

And why are you obliged to do that?

[quote]texasguy wrote:
Mr. Clean & Jerk wrote:
This thread’s kind of a train wreck, at this point. This kind of conversation is pretty dehumanizing of gays. Why the hell shouldn’t they have the same privileges of checking out what excites them?

To all you nay-sayers, do you honestly believe that all of the women whom you check out are just thrilled to have you eye-fuck them? The “violation” you feel is nothing you haven’t caused someone else to feel. Geez. Pretty thin skins here for guys who frequent a site called TESTOSTERONE Nation.

A vast majority of the non-trolls on this site presumably lift for aesthetics for some degree – for female attention.

So if you become a more attractive man, then all those who are attracted to men will respond. You can’t pick and choose.
“You can’t pick and choose.”

fuck yes you can. when a woman says she wants to massage your muscles you take her home.

when a dude says the same, you whip his ass. [/quote]