He didn’t know a thing about bodybuilding. He could have at least said “Arnold was a bodybuilder.”
“I took third place and got a trophy!”
Um son, you took LAST place and got a trophy.
HA! I’m watching this right now. MTV Canada. First commercial and this kid definitely got teh ghey.
[quote]JSMaxwell wrote:
My two cents for what they are worth…
What struck me most was the language and behavior the kid used. “I’m on vacation…I don’t care.” “Are you saying that the bad things I’ve done outweigh the good things?” “I don’t think a bagel while I’m on vacation is going to cause me any problems.” People tend to have a view of the world from their little segment of it.
To those of you that live the lifestyle and have done so for a while, please be aware that this is how the majority of Americans think and act. There is no passion, drive, or 100% commitment to anything. Most Americans float along secure in the knowledge that when something goes wrong with their health they will get a pill from a doctor to undo whatever they’ve done to themselves.
Secure in the knowledge that if they screw around and lose their job they can just get unemployment money from the government and free food from the local charity. The idea of working hard for a goal is foreign to modern day Americans.
I do lots of reading about psychology/self-help/motivation (because I’m a big geek and that’s what I do). One common thread among modern ideas is that we should be motivated by a positive future. We should have a vision in our minds of something good that we are working toward.
The problem is, when I look at the most successful people, they aren’t motivated that way. They are motivated by avoiding negative things. The most successful athletes say things like, “I’m not going to be a loser.” or “I don’t want anybody to beat me.” Financially successful people say things like, “I grew up poor and I’m NEVER going back to that.”
Turning back to the kid…I didn’t really see any negative consequences waiting for him if he didn’t achieve certain goals. I suppose being embarassed in the posing trunks might be one, but what if they had said something like, "Cody…if you do not reach X% of body fat and practice your posing routine 1hr a day, you will have to move away from your family and friends for an entire year.
You will be relocated to another city, in another school, away from your brother, mom, and “girlfriends.” If they set it up this way and he knew they were serious, do you think the results would have been different?
I’m not trying to throw stones here. I am 32 years old and just starting to figure things out and get my life together. I sort of had a “rock bottom” experience and I am currently driven by the idea that, “I have been a loser and a pussy for 32 years of life, but not anymore.” I hope Cody learned that what his coach was trying to teach him is what is necessary for excellence.
Thanks,
Jason[/quote]
This is a pretty good post.
[quote]JonEightPackGuy wrote:
The show was a disgrace.
The kid is a wuss and has no self respect or confidence.
Ava Cowan was hot as fuck.
The kid obviously does not want it otherwise he would be more determined.
His workouts are forced. He has no motivation.
He also have a vagina a I believe.
Nope they couldn’t pick a normal guy could they.[/quote]
I think that is as normal as they come.
Imagine going to school with these types of fuckers. If only I grew up twenty years earlier.
What do you DO to help someone that lacks that drive and will to change and succeed? If your brother, your uncle, your daughter, your significant other, or your mom is just sitting around watching dancing with the stars and loses that thirst for life, how do you get instill in them that desire to be better?
You convince them to train and they act exactly like this kid does, expecting you to pat them on the back for showing up and they cry when you say go harder, faster, more; how do you turn that around? How do you get people to really PUSH themselves?
Like some of the people on this thread said already, these attitudes are prevalent in Western society, resulting in obesity epidemics and general laziness and sheep behavior. But our culture is working against us, and I don’t really know how to get someone’s determination and self-discipline up to a respectable level. I guess people like Alwyn Cosgrove know how, and that’s why they have clients and I don’t haha
Have any of you put yourself in a position like Pump was in with someone and just been utterly frustrated by the futility of it? I’m sure the Professor can relate with respect to the bodybuilding forum in general.
[quote]JCS19Y wrote:
What do you DO to help someone that lacks that drive and will to change and succeed? If your brother, your uncle, your daughter, your significant other, or your mom is just sitting around watching dancing with the stars and loses that thirst for life, how do you get instill in them that desire to be better? [/quote]
You don’t. In fact, believing that you can change it will simply cause you undue stress and negativity. That may sound harsh but it is the truth, something I only learned after wasting much time trying to help other people out who didn’t have the drive to help themselves. It ALWAYS set me back as the end result.
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You convince them to train and they act exactly like this kid does, expecting you to pat them on the back for showing up and they cry when you say go harder, faster, more; how do you turn that around? How do you get people to really PUSH themselves?[/quote]
You move. You get away from them and keep pushing as hard as comes natural to you. Otherwise, you will be held back by the short sightedness of those people.
[quote]
Like some of the people on this thread said already, these attitudes are prevalent in Western society, resulting in obesity epidemics and general laziness and sheep behavior. But our culture is working against us, and I don’t really know how to get someone’s determination and self-discipline up to a respectable level. I guess people like Alwyn Cosgrove know how, and that’s why they have clients and I don’t haha
Have any of you put yourself in a position like Pump was in with someone and just been utterly frustrated by the futility of it? I’m sure the Professor can relate with respect to the bodybuilding forum in general.[/quote]
You can point people in the right direction, but don’t for a second believe you can literally guide someone to “passion”. You can’t.
You will also find negativity from those who act like they are passionate but inside hate it if you pass them up in development. If I had listened to the jackasses telling me to diet back when I only weigh 200lbs, I never would have gained much beyond that. Because they couldn’t do it, they believed no one else could.
The older/more experienced you get, the more you realize that you are mostly in this by yourself. It is GREAT to have friends you can rely on, but eventually you have to decide for yourself just how far you want to go and whether the people around you are helping you get there or keeping you from it.
I believe all of that. It just sucks.
[quote]SSC wrote:
Maybe it’s just me, but if I was PP, I would’ve just had him at least get really fucking lean instead of worrying about trying to put on any muscle at all. Because really, he may have “put an inch on his arms,” but what does he REALLY have to show for it?
IMO, It’s better to go up on-stage at least somewhat conditioned with smaller muscles compared to wasting time trying to build muscle in a time frame that’s just not realistic.[/quote]
Thing is - 8 weeks to go from where he was to even just being lean is impossible. Even if he wasn’t being a whiny pussy about it and gave it his all from day 1, there’s no way he could have gotten into any kind of condition in 8 weeks.
An inch on his arms, a teeny bit of chest development and dropped 20 pounds - that’s about what I’d expect in 2 months of training - kid never picked up a weight before in his life. And he did make some good newbie progress, but still has 40 to lose, not to mention LBM to build, so onstage he looks like shit anyway.
The thing was Putnam gave him a good start, but it was ridiculous to put him up onstage in any capacity…