We’re getting way off into the weeds, part of which is you straw-maning me into being on the side you want to ridicule. Whatever, have at it.
What is beneath you is you are ridiculing 2nd amendment supporters because, evidently, they aren’t shooting enough people. I chimed in to show that, actually, people have already been shot. Whatever side you’re on, every one of those shootings is a tragedy.
You’re obviously trying to be funny, but you’re taunting a group of people because apparently there haven’t been enough mass shootings yet, and I can’t wrap my head around that.
There are no facts or evidence established on how the car was being driven. What we know is the car was there and the riot came by and beat on his car. The video shows Garret was definitely brandishing his weapon, he appeared to be raising it on the driver in the video. Then we hear shots.
We cannot establish Perry’s intent based on Twitter anymore than we can put the other 29 BLM killings on you for your online support for the rioting and violence throughout the country.
His manner of driving has not been factually established. And there is no evidence, whatsoever, that Perry was looking for a fight…
Anybody who says they know is lying…I.E. The media…
You got this horseshit from the NYT or New York Magazine didn’t you?
All I see is a man who isn’t sure what to do. Then gets swarmed by an angry mob. Again, people are deciding they aren’t going to be be beaten by an angry mob. Like this unfortunate fella was.
I mean he was stopped at least at one point so as to not hit anyone once he made the turn. After all, he was surrounded while people felt emboldened enough to swarm and pound his car.
The guy had a history of tough guy trash talking the protesters. He made two separate turns knowing he was going towards the protest, and he gassed it around the corner into the protests. That doesn’t sound like a guy unsure of what to do with totally innocent intentions to me.
Lets not forget that a car is a deadly weapon. Someone driving into a crowd of protesters with mean intentions was a very real possibility, and for a second there that looked like it might be the case.
My guess is that the guy with the AK thought he was doing the right thing by stopping (at gunpoint) the driver from driving through the protest and running people over. I don’t doubt for a second that the driver was legitimately and rightfully scared for his life by the guy pointing the AK at him so he responded in self defense.
Do you honestly think that driver had totally innocent intentions?
You don’t know what he knew. He claims he didn’t know there was a protest going on. My town had a BLM march down the main street. I didn’t know about it and it’s less than two miles from my home. He was working, by the way, not out driving for the purpose of confronting protestors.
Gassed is subjective. Let’s be honest, protestors will say someone was driving fast even if they were going 5 mph.
It sounds like a guy trying to get somewhere.
A car is a car. A bat is a bat. A hammer is a hammer. A car can be used as a deadly weapon but it is not a deadly weapon. It’s not even a weapon.
My guess, based on his own words, is that he was an idiot who couldn’t think for himself and needed to prove something. He was there for himself, not for a cause. Bringing an AK to the protest was an act of selfishness, virtue signaling one-upmanship and attention whoring.
He was stopped already. And people had this option called getting out of the way.
I wouldn’t make any guesses about his intentions. It’s quite possible that had he not been assaulted by someone with an AK, he would have turned around had the mob allowed him.
If you watch the videos, and read the police and witness statements as well as his lawyers statements you’ll see I’ve described it pretty darn accurately.
My opinions and guesses as to intentions are obviously my own, but I think they are pretty fair as well.
I would remind folks that we’ve discussed the terror and panic of encountering unmarked federal law enforcement (which turns out wasn’t true in those cases). People thinking they’re being kindapped by Proud boys, the Russian Mafia I guess, or some such thing…Remember?
Now we have a man that is actually encountering someone not marked as “police” or “law enforcement” in any way at all, gesturing with a rifle, as a mob hits his car. Why the hell is any mob surrounding his car in the first place?! He tried to turn? Imagine that, someone tried to get out/away from the mobs of angry folk in the street during a time of great unrest.
The comments he made were concerning violent looting and rioting. While I don’t think it’s wise, or the best approach for peace, I’m not going to blame a man for voicing what ultimately boils down to support for defending against, and being defiant towards, violent riots.
Stay out of the streets
If you’re not law enforcement, don’t try to stop traffic
If you’re not law enforcement and still trying to stop traffic don’t do it in a mob with anger so thick in the air you could cut it with a knife.
Understand that since you’re not law enforcement, with an emotional mob, some of those carrying rifles, drivers may become confused or frightened (Reginald Denny anyone?) and try to exit the area pronto.
Where are the hit and run victims that could even remotely justify violently mobbing the man’s car while at least one person approaches him with a rifel?! Where are the charges they’re pressing? I see zero reports that he caused anyone a single injury with his car…
He stopped in the first place to help a trans person who was being beaten and robbed. For that he was nearly killed. He should have just honked, yelled that he’s going and floored it. Anybody dumb enough to get in his way gets to win their ‘stupid’ prize.
I like that title on the video, "MultCo DA: Attack on driver ‘will not be tolerated’.
What a load of crap, it’s tolerated, has been tolerated and the DA, Mayor and Governor promised to continue to tolerate it.
What I do know, also. That very same night, when asked why he is carrying the rifle, the man who was killed, Foster, said he doesn’t use it on the cops because he’d then be dead. How about because that would be wrong to do? Never mind that he thought anybody who might stop and SAY anything in opposition are too big of pussies (if my bleep assumption is correct) to even do just that.
I tend to believe his story, he dropped a guy off, made a turn and boom, riots. Dude raised his weapon at the driver, he ‘needed killin’ as they say in Texas.
What this guy said was way worse than what Perry (the driver) said on twitter.
He said basically what we all say… “Try that shit in my neighborhood and see what you get.”
Like him, I ain’t looking for trouble, but if it finds me, I am ready.
To me it’s kind of cringe, but not immoral. Unless you happen to be considering looting, arson, and assault. Then, yeah, it’s a threat. Which, if that’s the case, then I’m not concerned with you feeling threatened. You probably need to feel that to keep society as a whole safe. Heck, to make civilization even possible.
Witness statements? You mean his girl friend and fellow protesters? You will forgive us if we don’t take their word for it. The evidence does not support that he ‘drove in to the crowd’. For if he did, people would have been flying and suffer from multiple contusions and abrasions.
I think your desperately trying to hold on to a narrative that simply slipping away from you…
Like it or not, these are people on your team, they hold the same ideas you do, they are just acting on them… Sorry, it’s not right wing violence, but it’s not.
Nobody defended Charlottesville, right, left, center, no one. But you are defending Portland and Seattle and Austin BLM riots and violence.
Let me explain. Silence is NOT violence, it’s the opposite. Words can be hurtful or offensive, but they do not hurt as bad as being beaten, hit with a baseball bat, hit with commercial grade fireworks, rocks, bricks, fire, and\ or moltov cocktails
Yeah, I’ve seen the videos leading up to this kick. I can see no way to interpret this any other way than you. The racist right wing trouble maker justification looks like total bull. It fully appears like this man tried to peacefully get folks to lay off the the trans individual. Like, in a very passive way. At some point his wife/girlfriend is attacked and tackled into the street. Apparently she is able to get back to the vehicle he is in (the white truck) and he tries to drive off. Make no mistake, you have zero survival instinct if you do not see a menace to their life and limb at that point. Zero. That,or you’re so biased they could have lynched this man and you’d still make excuses. And once again, zero hospital reports of any injury sustained from his vehicle. Zero. So here, again, the anti-police violence demonstrators remind us exactly how damn awesome it is to have the police. To protect us from each other, where the violence is far more common.
I thought the story was the trans person was actually trying to protect him? Curiously what was the guy doing driving through there? This was the same few blocks that have been under seige for the past couple months, right? Or no?
Any word on the guys condition? Rumors haven’t been good…
No, he actually was trying to verbally intercede on behalf of the the Trans person who was being taunted, bullied, assaulted, and robbed by the BLM protestors. At one point they had circled him, the trans,l (sorry, I don’t do the pronoun thing) and were literally spitting on him while they had him sitting on the ground. This group had been screwing with people all night apparently, as there are other videos of some of the same people messing with other folks. Anyways, I guess they got irritated by this man opposing their street justice or whatever they think they’re dolling out to the rest of us.
