Movies You Might Enjoy

[MinotaurXXX]

[quote]Diddy Ryder wrote:

[quote]MinotaurXXX wrote:

[quote]Yogi wrote:

[quote]Marzouk wrote:
The Double. Really good intense film[/quote]

oh no! You mean the one with the dude from The Social Network? I hated that movie![/quote]

Haven’t seen it but I did watch Enemy (with Jake Gyllenhaal) which also deals with the ‘evil twin’ theme. It’s one of those movies that will fascinate some and infuriate others.

Technically, it was quite good, especially the cinematography. Gyllenhaal gives an outstanding performance. And Sarah Gadon is breath taking.

Overall, I WON’T recommend this one because I personally feel that symbolism alone, no matter how clever, is rarely enough to carry a novel or a movie. Also, (listen up, David Lynch fans) ambiguity does NOT confer genius. Reminds me of the phrase, “If you can’t impress them with brilliance, dazzle them with bullshit.” [/quote]

I started watching Enemy but had to turn it off after about 20 minutes. I don’t expect to have everything spelled out to me in crayon but I like to have some sort of idea of what the fuck is going on. There was too much “movement” for wont of a better word.

I was disappointed in both the film and myself because I like Dostoevsky.

As and aside The Social Network can suck my plums. It gets a quarter of a Pair of Diddies. My summary “Facebook is cool. Lawyers are cool. But let’s sex it up to make sure it’s extra cool.”
[/quote]

I think you made the right call with Enemy.

As for your review on The Social Network, that’s good enough for me to skip this one entirely. Thanks.

[MinotaurXXX]

[quote]Diddy Ryder wrote:

[quote]MinotaurXXX wrote:

[quote]Yogi wrote:

[quote]Marzouk wrote:
The Double. Really good intense film[/quote]

oh no! You mean the one with the dude from The Social Network? I hated that movie![/quote]

Haven’t seen it but I did watch Enemy (with Jake Gyllenhaal) which also deals with the ‘evil twin’ theme. It’s one of those movies that will fascinate some and infuriate others.

Technically, it was quite good, especially the cinematography. Gyllenhaal gives an outstanding performance. And Sarah Gadon is breath taking.

Overall, I WON’T recommend this one because I personally feel that symbolism alone, no matter how clever, is rarely enough to carry a novel or a movie. Also, (listen up, David Lynch fans) ambiguity does NOT confer genius. Reminds me of the phrase, “If you can’t impress them with brilliance, dazzle them with bullshit.” [/quote]

I started watching Enemy but had to turn it off after about 20 minutes. I don’t expect to have everything spelled out to me in crayon but I like to have some sort of idea of what the fuck is going on. There was too much “movement” for wont of a better word.

I was disappointed in both the film and myself because I like Dostoevsky.

As and aside The Social Network can suck my plums. It gets a quarter of a Pair of Diddies. My summary “Facebook is cool. Lawyers are cool. But let’s sex it up to make sure it’s extra cool.”
[/quote]

As far as I know, The Double is a modern take on the Dostoevsky short story. Enemy is based on a novel by Jose Saramago.

[MinotaurXXX]

SPOILER ALERT FOR ENEMY.

Because I do NOT recommend Enemy, I’m going to break my own rule about NO Spoilers in this thread.

So if anyone wants to watch Enemy, skip this post.

SPOILER ALERT FOR ENEMY.

The ending, in which the spectacularly beautiful Sarah Gadon transforms, is what gets such polarizing reactions from this movie.

I’m smarter than the average male, thank you very much. I realize this is symbolic of the fear of female intimacy in Gyllenhaal’s character. Or something along those lines. I get it. And the director does drop enough crumbs throughout the movie so the attentive viewer can trace his steps.

Unfortunately, those trail of crumbs takes you on a journey which, to me at least, is neither enjoyable nor illuminating.

[Yogi1]

[quote]MinotaurXXX wrote:

[quote]Yogi wrote:
Minotaur if you insult David Lynch in my presence I’ll smack you in the mouth.[/quote]

Come at me bro!

History will vindicate people like me and David Lynch will be relegated as an unimportant director.

Ambiguity does NOT confer genius. [/quote]

I like David Lynch!

I even liked Dune

[Diddy_Ryder]

[quote]MinotaurXXX wrote:

As far as I know, The Double is a modern take on the Dostoevsky short story. Enemy is based on a novel by Jose Saramago. [/quote]

lol so he had a novel called The Double, too, it seems.

[MinotaurXXX]

[quote]Diddy Ryder wrote:

[quote]MinotaurXXX wrote:

As far as I know, The Double is a modern take on the Dostoevsky short story. Enemy is based on a novel by Jose Saramago. [/quote]

lol so he had a novel called The Double, too, it seems.
[/quote]

Ahahaha. I stand corrected. In my defense, I was discussing another Russian author with a co-worker and got my wires crossed when I made that post.

[orion]

[quote]Yogi wrote:

[quote]MinotaurXXX wrote:

[quote]Yogi wrote:
Minotaur if you insult David Lynch in my presence I’ll smack you in the mouth.[/quote]

Come at me bro!

History will vindicate people like me and David Lynch will be relegated as an unimportant director.

Ambiguity does NOT confer genius. [/quote]

I like David Lynch!

I even liked Dune
[/quote]

Phew…

Dude…

The books, then the movie…

Whoa…

[MinotaurXXX]

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Yogi wrote:

[quote]MinotaurXXX wrote:

[quote]Yogi wrote:
Minotaur if you insult David Lynch in my presence I’ll smack you in the mouth.[/quote]

Come at me bro!

History will vindicate people like me and David Lynch will be relegated as an unimportant director.

Ambiguity does NOT confer genius. [/quote]

I like David Lynch!

I even liked Dune
[/quote]

Phew…

Dude…

The books, then the movie…

Whoa…[/quote]

LOL

Seriously…LOL

Dune (the movie) directed by Lynch

LOL

I suppose one can make the argument it’s a movie so bad it’s deliciously good.

And I will say The Elephant Man isn’t bad. And I can see why art-house geeks drool over Eraserhead.

Still, I’m convinced history will deem Lynch as a second tier (if not lower) film maker.

[orion]

[quote]MinotaurXXX wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Yogi wrote:

[quote]MinotaurXXX wrote:

[quote]Yogi wrote:
Minotaur if you insult David Lynch in my presence I’ll smack you in the mouth.[/quote]

Come at me bro!

History will vindicate people like me and David Lynch will be relegated as an unimportant director.

Ambiguity does NOT confer genius. [/quote]

I like David Lynch!

I even liked Dune
[/quote]

Phew…

Dude…

The books, then the movie…

Whoa…[/quote]

LOL

Seriously…LOL

Dune (the movie) directed by Lynch

LOL

I suppose one can make the argument it’s a movie so bad it’s deliciously good.

And I will say The Elephant Man isn’t bad. And I can see why art-house geeks drool over Eraserhead.

Still, I’m convinced history will deem Lynch as a second tier (if not lower) film maker.

[/quote]

If HBO will ever make a TV series on the Dune series, I shall

Jizz In My Pants

, if they ignore anything Brian Herbert has written, ever.

God, his stuff was shit, if you liked the original series, ignore it.

I know you wont, please do, its for your own good.

[MinotaurXXX]

[quote]orion wrote:

If HBO will ever make a TV series on the Dune series, I shall

Jizz In My Pants

, if they ignore anything Brian Herbert has written, ever.

God, his stuff was shit, if you liked the original series, ignore it.

I know you wont, please do, its for your own good. [/quote]

Have no interest in what Brian Herbert has written.

In my earlier post, I judged Dune - the movie - on its own merit. It certainly wasn’t meant to be commentary on the books by Frank Herbert.

[orion]

[quote]MinotaurXXX wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

If HBO will ever make a TV series on the Dune series, I shall

Jizz In My Pants

, if they ignore anything Brian Herbert has written, ever.

God, his stuff was shit, if you liked the original series, ignore it.

I know you wont, please do, its for your own good. [/quote]

Have no interest in what Brian Herbert has written.

In my earlier post, I judged Dune - the movie - on its own merit. It certainly wasn’t meant to be commentary on the books by Frank Herbert.[/quote]

Look…

… if you have not read the books of the Franks Herberts, you do not know what potential, what promise, what unexplored ideas that were only hinted at…

I cannot watch this movie without comparing it to what it could have been.

I am like, the polar opposite of you in that regard.

[MinotaurXXX]

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]MinotaurXXX wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

Jizz In My Pants

If HBO will ever make a TV series on the Dune series, I shall

, if they ignore anything Brian Herbert has written, ever.

God, his stuff was shit, if you liked the original series, ignore it.

I know you wont, please do, its for your own good. [/quote]

Have no interest in what Brian Herbert has written.

In my earlier post, I judged Dune - the movie - on its own merit. It certainly wasn’t meant to be commentary on the books by Frank Herbert.[/quote]

Look…

… if you have not read the books of the Franks Herberts, you do not know what potential, what promise, what unexplored ideas that were only hinted at…

I cannot watch this movie without comparing it to what it could have been.

I am like, the polar opposite of you in that regard.[/quote]

And I already told you: my comments earlier was on Dune the movie - which was negative.

You already stated that you “cannot watch this movie without comparing it to what it could have been.” It sounds like you also found the movie a disappointment.

So how is it that I am the polar opposite of you in this topic? Not that I particularly care about winning internet friend points with you.

[orion]

[quote]MinotaurXXX wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]MinotaurXXX wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

Jizz In My Pants

If HBO will ever make a TV series on the Dune series, I shall

, if they ignore anything Brian Herbert has written, ever.

God, his stuff was shit, if you liked the original series, ignore it.

I know you wont, please do, its for your own good. [/quote]

Have no interest in what Brian Herbert has written.

In my earlier post, I judged Dune - the movie - on its own merit. It certainly wasn’t meant to be commentary on the books by Frank Herbert.[/quote]

Look…

… if you have not read the books of the Franks Herberts, you do not know what potential, what promise, what unexplored ideas that were only hinted at…

I cannot watch this movie without comparing it to what it could have been.

I am like, the polar opposite of you in that regard.[/quote]

And I already told you: my comments earlier was on Dune the movie - which was negative.

You already stated that you “cannot watch this movie without comparing it to what it could have been.” It sounds like you also found the movie a disappointment.

So how is it that I am the polar opposite of you in this topic? Not that I particularly care about winning internet friend points with you.
[/quote]

Because you can see the movie on its own.

I cannot.

[MinotaurXXX]

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]MinotaurXXX wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]MinotaurXXX wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

Jizz In My Pants

If HBO will ever make a TV series on the Dune series, I shall

, if they ignore anything Brian Herbert has written, ever.

God, his stuff was shit, if you liked the original series, ignore it.

I know you wont, please do, its for your own good. [/quote]

Have no interest in what Brian Herbert has written.

In my earlier post, I judged Dune - the movie - on its own merit. It certainly wasn’t meant to be commentary on the books by Frank Herbert.[/quote]

Look…

… if you have not read the books of the Franks Herberts, you do not know what potential, what promise, what unexplored ideas that were only hinted at…

I cannot watch this movie without comparing it to what it could have been.

I am like, the polar opposite of you in that regard.[/quote]

And I already told you: my comments earlier was on Dune the movie - which was negative.

You already stated that you “cannot watch this movie without comparing it to what it could have been.” It sounds like you also found the movie a disappointment.

So how is it that I am the polar opposite of you in this topic? Not that I particularly care about winning internet friend points with you.
[/quote]

Because you can see the movie on its own.

I cannot. [/quote]

The way I see it, movies and novels each have their respective limitations. I understand that and am willing AND able to see a movie as a separate entity.

Dune - the movie - IMO did not come close to doing the novel justice. However, I was willing to view it and possibly appreciate it as a movie. In that regard it was also a disappointment.

A good example of how a mediocre novel can inspire a very thought provoking and intense movie is Deliverance. Yes, there was a novel first (in fact, the author plays a minor role).

I’ve simply learned to segregate the two art forms.

[MinotaurXXX]

The Proposition is a 2005 Australian Western with Guy Pearce, Emily Watson, Danny Huston, John Hurt, and Ray Winstone. You won’t find any bad performance from these heavyweights.

Winstone, the new peace keeper in a small town in the Australian Outback, is assigned to clean up the criminal element, namely a gang run by Huston. Winstone also has a personal need to make his new home a safer place for his wife.

In order to do this he offers one of Huston’s brothers, portrayed by Pierce, a proposition that would impress Satan himself.

Some critics have drawn parallels to Clint Eastwood’s The Unforgiven. Both films deal with similar themes: heroes and absolutes are a mirage and god help anyone naive enough to believe otherwise.

IMO, The Proposition ranks a notch higher.

Gene Hackman’s sheriff in The Unforgiven is little more than a caricature. Winstone’s captain is three dimensional. He’s not against violence and cruelty but has a thresh hold.

Although Eastwood and Morgan Freeman portray hired killers in The Unforgiven, it’s obvious the viewer is led to sympathize with them. Morality isn’t as neat and tidy in The Proposition. The main characters elicit, in turns, admiration and disgust. The lone decent person, portrayed by Emily Watson, is a symbol for what humanity can and should be. If anyone thinks this interpretation is far fetched, I encourage them to watch the movie first.

And The Proposition, IMO, has cleaner writing and directing - which are fundamentally important in any movie. To me, the dialogue and storyline would make any screen writer jealous; each frame could not have been shot better.

Not unlike the opening of Beethoven’s 5th Symphony, The Proposition bangs on your door and unapologetically charges in. And not unlike Beethoven’s 5th, it struck me as a force majeure.

Rotten Tomatoes rating: 87%

MinotaurXXX rating: 4.75 out of 5 minotaurs

[Yogi1]

[quote]MinotaurXXX wrote:
The Proposition is a 2005 Australian Western with Guy Pearce, Emily Watson, Danny Huston, John Hurt, and Ray Winstone. You won’t find any bad performance from these heavyweights.

Winstone, the new peace keeper in a small town in the Australian Outback, is assigned to clean up the criminal element, namely a gang run by Huston. Winstone also has a personal need to make his new home a safer place for his wife.

In order to do this he offers one of Huston’s brothers, portrayed by Pierce, a proposition that would impress Satan himself.

Some critics have drawn parallels to Clint Eastwood’s The Unforgiven. Both films deal with similar themes: heroes and absolutes are a mirage and god help anyone naive enough to believe otherwise.

IMO, The Proposition ranks a notch higher.

Gene Hackman’s sheriff in The Unforgiven is little more than a caricature. Winstone’s captain is three dimensional. He’s not against violence and cruelty but has a thresh hold.

Although Eastwood and Morgan Freeman portray hired killers in The Unforgiven, it’s obvious the viewer is led to sympathize with them. Morality isn’t as neat and tidy in The Proposition. The main characters elicit, in turns, admiration and disgust. The lone decent person, portrayed by Emily Watson, is a symbol for what humanity can and should be. If anyone thinks this interpretation is far fetched, I encourage them to watch the movie first.

And The Proposition, IMO, has cleaner writing and directing - which are fundamentally important in any movie. To me, the dialogue and storyline would make any screen writer jealous; each frame could not have been shot better.

Not unlike the opening of Beethoven’s 5th Symphony, The Proposition bangs on your door and unapologetically charges in. And not unlike Beethoven’s 5th, it struck me as a force majeure.

Rotten Tomatoes rating: 87%

MinotaurXXX rating: 4.75 out of 5 minotaurs [/quote]

THAT IS THE WORST MOVIE EVER!!!

THE WORST MOVIE EVER!!!

[Yogi1]

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Yogi wrote:

[quote]MinotaurXXX wrote:

[quote]Yogi wrote:
Minotaur if you insult David Lynch in my presence I’ll smack you in the mouth.[/quote]

Come at me bro!

History will vindicate people like me and David Lynch will be relegated as an unimportant director.

Ambiguity does NOT confer genius. [/quote]

I like David Lynch!

I even liked Dune
[/quote]

Phew…

Dude…

The books, then the movie…

Whoa…[/quote]

I’m confused, did you or did you not like the movie?

[MinotaurXXX]

[quote]Yogi wrote:

[quote]MinotaurXXX wrote:
The Proposition is a 2005 Australian Western with Guy Pearce, Emily Watson, Danny Huston, John Hurt, and Ray Winstone. You won’t find any bad performance from these heavyweights.

Winstone, the new peace keeper in a small town in the Australian Outback, is assigned to clean up the criminal element, namely a gang run by Huston. Winstone also has a personal need to make his new home a safer place for his wife.

In order to do this he offers one of Huston’s brothers, portrayed by Pierce, a proposition that would impress Satan himself.

Some critics have drawn parallels to Clint Eastwood’s The Unforgiven. Both films deal with similar themes: heroes and absolutes are a mirage and god help anyone naive enough to believe otherwise.

IMO, The Proposition ranks a notch higher.

Gene Hackman’s sheriff in The Unforgiven is little more than a caricature. Winstone’s captain is three dimensional. He’s not against violence and cruelty but has a thresh hold.

Although Eastwood and Morgan Freeman portray hired killers in The Unforgiven, it’s obvious the viewer is led to sympathize with them. Morality isn’t as neat and tidy in The Proposition. The main characters elicit, in turns, admiration and disgust. The lone decent person, portrayed by Emily Watson, is a symbol for what humanity can and should be. If anyone thinks this interpretation is far fetched, I encourage them to watch the movie first.

And The Proposition, IMO, has cleaner writing and directing - which are fundamentally important in any movie. To me, the dialogue and storyline would make any screen writer jealous; each frame could not have been shot better.

Not unlike the opening of Beethoven’s 5th Symphony, The Proposition bangs on your door and unapologetically charges in. And not unlike Beethoven’s 5th, it struck me as a force majeure.

Rotten Tomatoes rating: 87%

MinotaurXXX rating: 4.75 out of 5 minotaurs [/quote]

THAT IS THE WORST MOVIE EVER!!!

THE WORST MOVIE EVER!!![/quote]

It’s cool if you didn’t like it. But your review is a bit juvenile. Or are you still upset because I dissed Lynch?

[MinotaurXXX]

[quote]Yogi wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Yogi wrote:

[quote]MinotaurXXX wrote:

[quote]Yogi wrote:
Minotaur if you insult David Lynch in my presence I’ll smack you in the mouth.[/quote]

Come at me bro!

History will vindicate people like me and David Lynch will be relegated as an unimportant director.

Ambiguity does NOT confer genius. [/quote]

I like David Lynch!

I even liked Dune
[/quote]

Phew…

Dude…

The books, then the movie…

Whoa…[/quote]

I’m confused, did you or did you not like the movie?
[/quote]

Does this answer your question? It appears he found the movie disappointing:

[quote]orion wrote:

I cannot watch this movie without comparing it to what it could have been.

[/quote]

[Yogi1]

[quote]MinotaurXXX wrote:

[quote]Yogi wrote:

[quote]MinotaurXXX wrote:
The Proposition is a 2005 Australian Western with Guy Pearce, Emily Watson, Danny Huston, John Hurt, and Ray Winstone. You won’t find any bad performance from these heavyweights.

Winstone, the new peace keeper in a small town in the Australian Outback, is assigned to clean up the criminal element, namely a gang run by Huston. Winstone also has a personal need to make his new home a safer place for his wife.

In order to do this he offers one of Huston’s brothers, portrayed by Pierce, a proposition that would impress Satan himself.

Some critics have drawn parallels to Clint Eastwood’s The Unforgiven. Both films deal with similar themes: heroes and absolutes are a mirage and god help anyone naive enough to believe otherwise.

IMO, The Proposition ranks a notch higher.

Gene Hackman’s sheriff in The Unforgiven is little more than a caricature. Winstone’s captain is three dimensional. He’s not against violence and cruelty but has a thresh hold.

Although Eastwood and Morgan Freeman portray hired killers in The Unforgiven, it’s obvious the viewer is led to sympathize with them. Morality isn’t as neat and tidy in The Proposition. The main characters elicit, in turns, admiration and disgust. The lone decent person, portrayed by Emily Watson, is a symbol for what humanity can and should be. If anyone thinks this interpretation is far fetched, I encourage them to watch the movie first.

And The Proposition, IMO, has cleaner writing and directing - which are fundamentally important in any movie. To me, the dialogue and storyline would make any screen writer jealous; each frame could not have been shot better.

Not unlike the opening of Beethoven’s 5th Symphony, The Proposition bangs on your door and unapologetically charges in. And not unlike Beethoven’s 5th, it struck me as a force majeure.

Rotten Tomatoes rating: 87%

MinotaurXXX rating: 4.75 out of 5 minotaurs [/quote]

THAT IS THE WORST MOVIE EVER!!!

THE WORST MOVIE EVER!!![/quote]

It’s cool if you didn’t like it. But your review is a bit juvenile. Or are you still upset because I dissed Lynch? [/quote]

lol, na brother, you can slag off David Lynch as much as you like, I won’t take it personally.

I just have nothing more constructive to say about The Proposition other than IT IS THE WORST MOVIE EVER!!!

EDIT: Oh no wait, I thought of something: that movie is slow, boring and brown.