To piggyback off of this thread:
http://www.T-Nation.com/readTopic.do?id=1134503&pageNo=1
From : http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/story.cfm?c_id=1&ObjectID=10389287
Student survives fall from motorcycle but then run over by car
Apathy seems to be growing exponentially.
Reminds me of the stories of people calling for help and no one responds. Later, authorities find out people were in the house next door, heard the cries for help, but thought someone else was going to call the police.
~V
Probably already discussed, but we could always use more motorcycle news.
~V
One of the most crucial things to be aware of when you have survived a crash is to get your head up and get yourself to the gutter or side of the road as quickly as possible, while being as alert as you can to other vehicles, its crucial.
Have lost friends to a accident such as that, its hard to understand surviving the crash and then getting killed by another vehicle, have survived a couple myself by the grace of god and getting my head up, being alert as possible, sometimes you don't get a chance but sometimes you do.
Many car drivers often don’t see Motorcyclists, the reason there are so many accidents.
[quote]Dr. Stig wrote:
Many car drivers often don’t see Motorcyclists, the reason there are so many accidents. [/quote]
I think the solution to that problem is drivers of cars fucking paying attention to what the fuck they are doing.
Period.
[quote]bigflamer wrote:
Dr. Stig wrote:
Many car drivers often don’t see Motorcyclists, the reason there are so many accidents.
I think the solution to that problem is drivers of cars fucking paying attention to what the fuck they are doing.
Period.
[/quote]
I had a guy on a cell phone while “driving” his SUV nearly drive me off the road yesterday. He still didn’t see me even after I honked my horn because he was just that deep into his conversation. Mind you, it isn’t exactly like I’m that easy to miss. I can honestly understand how most accidents are the faul t of the person driving the car. People act like they are driving reclining sofas in their living room.
Also people who can’t handle the bike. I did have a go of this 600cc crosser the other day, if someone not familiar with bikes that accelerate that fast, only disaster would come of it. When I say fast, I mean like 70 mph faster than say an R1.
[quote]Dr. Stig wrote:
Also people who can’t handle the bike. I did have a go of this 600cc crosser the other day, if someone not familiar with bikes that accelerate that fast, only disaster would come of it. When I say fast, I mean like 70 mph faster than say an R1. [/quote]
You must be joking. What 600cc is faster than an R1? Maybe I misunderstood your post.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Dr. Stig wrote:
Also people who can’t handle the bike. I did have a go of this 600cc crosser the other day, if someone not familiar with bikes that accelerate that fast, only disaster would come of it. When I say fast, I mean like 70 mph faster than say an R1.
You must be joking. What 600cc is faster than an R1? Maybe I misunderstood your post.[/quote]
An uncorked, unplugged (totally un-restricted XR600) tweaked, fastest bike I’ve ridden to 70 mph easily. Its not the case of just riding it, its trying to hang on.
Whilst a Std. XR650 say is not as quick as an R1 they are way way fast would beat most 600c sportsbike to 60 'cos of the gearing and torque.
I might get an XR650 as my next bike because you can give them another 20 bhp for hardly any cash.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
bigflamer wrote:
Dr. Stig wrote:
Many car drivers often don’t see Motorcyclists, the reason there are so many accidents.
I think the solution to that problem is drivers of cars fucking paying attention to what the fuck they are doing.
Period.
I had a guy on a cell phone while “driving” his SUV nearly drive me off the road yesterday. He still didn’t see me even after I honked my horn because he was just that deep into his conversation. Mind you, it isn’t exactly like I’m that easy to miss. I can honestly understand how most accidents are the faul t of the person driving the car. People act like they are driving reclining sofas in their living room.[/quote]
Three shifts ago, I was responding to a call and came to a stop at the intersection before proceding through (thank god). Some lady, in spite of ALL of the stopped traffic, the big red truck with lights and sirens blaring, flew right threw the intersection in front of us yaking away on her phone. She had a look of absulute shock on her face when she finally noticed what was going on.
Retards.
[quote]bigflamer wrote:
Professor X wrote:
bigflamer wrote:
Dr. Stig wrote:
Many car drivers often don’t see Motorcyclists, the reason there are so many accidents.
I think the solution to that problem is drivers of cars fucking paying attention to what the fuck they are doing.
Period.
I had a guy on a cell phone while “driving” his SUV nearly drive me off the road yesterday. He still didn’t see me even after I honked my horn because he was just that deep into his conversation. Mind you, it isn’t exactly like I’m that easy to miss. I can honestly understand how most accidents are the faul t of the person driving the car. People act like they are driving reclining sofas in their living room.
Three shifts ago, I was responding to a call and came to a stop at the intersection before proceding through (thank god). Some lady, in spite of ALL of the stopped traffic, the big red truck with lights and sirens blaring, flew right threw the intersection in front of us yaking away on her phone. She had a look of absulute shock on her face when she finally noticed what was going on.
Retards.[/quote]
I guarantee all of these people think they are driving perfectly while on the phone. I see so many people do this lately that I honestly wonder if these fools have home telephones. If the conversation is that good, why not pull off the road?
Then again, that still won’t replace the idiots who treat motorcycles like they shouldn’t be on the road at all and cut them off or nearly run them over. There are some true dickheads driving cars.
[quote]Dr. Stig wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Dr. Stig wrote:
Also people who can’t handle the bike. I did have a go of this 600cc crosser the other day, if someone not familiar with bikes that accelerate that fast, only disaster would come of it. When I say fast, I mean like 70 mph faster than say an R1.
You must be joking. What 600cc is faster than an R1? Maybe I misunderstood your post.
An uncorked, unplugged (totally un-restricted XR600) tweaked, fastest bike I’ve ridden to 70 mph easily. Its not the case of just riding it, its trying to hang on.
Whilst a Std. XR650 say is not as quick as an R1 they are way way fast would beat most 600c sportsbike to 60 'cos of the gearing and torque.
I might get an XR650 as my next bike because you can give them another 20 bhp for hardly any cash.[/quote]
That is like saying a 600cc bike with nitrous can beat a stock R1. If all thiongs are similar, there is no way. In fact, considering the 2006 CBR1000, I would doubt whether that unrestricted 600cc could get close to a stock 1000. The new one is built to the point that I honestly don’t see much need for upgrades unless I am taking it to the track. I have never ridden a bike like this before.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Dr. Stig wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Dr. Stig wrote:
Also people who can’t handle the bike. I did have a go of this 600cc crosser the other day, if someone not familiar with bikes that accelerate that fast, only disaster would come of it. When I say fast, I mean like 70 mph faster than say an R1.
You must be joking. What 600cc is faster than an R1? Maybe I misunderstood your post.
An uncorked, unplugged (totally un-restricted XR600) tweaked, fastest bike I’ve ridden to 70 mph easily. Its not the case of just riding it, its trying to hang on.
Whilst a Std. XR650 say is not as quick as an R1 they are way way fast would beat most 600c sportsbike to 60 'cos of the gearing and torque.
I might get an XR650 as my next bike because you can give them another 20 bhp for hardly any cash.
That is like saying a 600cc bike with nitrous can beat a stock R1. If all thiongs are similar, there is no way. In fact, considering the 2006 CBR1000, I would doubt whether that unrestricted 600cc could get close to a stock 1000. The new one is built to the point that I honestly don’t see much need for upgrades unless I am taking it to the track. I have never ridden a bike like this before.[/quote]
I appreciate what you are saying, and my personal choice has been Sportsbikes recently…ZX9R currently. But, all you do to ‘de-restrict’ is remove this thing that looks like a coin slot in the intake and other very simple things. There is nothing involved like nitrous tuning and engine machining.
If you know anyone with an XR600 or 650 or can find a dealer who does tests get a go, you will seriously be impressed at the grunt. Whilst a sportsbike is amazing for the open road, the point and squirt grunt and low down power will make anyone grin ear to ear. There is no powerband thing, its instant mega shove all the way.
My original point is, being used to a nice sportsbike is one thing, but nothing prepares you for the instant grunt, s’why they are easy to drop and beginners should not be allowed them.
[quote]bigflamer wrote:
Three shifts ago, I was responding to a call and came to a stop at the intersection before proceding through (thank god). Some lady, in spite of ALL of the stopped traffic, the big red truck with lights and sirens blaring, flew right threw the intersection in front of us yaking away on her phone. She had a look of absulute shock on her face when she finally noticed what was going on.[/quote]
What I find most astonishing is that she didn’t get her license revoked right then and there – and a couple of months in jail to think about it.
In most countries in Europe it has been illegal to drive with your cell phone in your hand for at least half a decade. When I lived in The Netherlands it was already illegal there, and police actively chased people if they caught them on the phone. Repeat offenders get their licenses revoked. Same thing in every other European country I know of. Unfortunately they still allow you to talk on your phone if you have a fully voice-activated handsfree kit – I say unfortunately because the biggest problem is not people operating the damn phone, it’s the distraction that comes with talking with people on the phone. I know that many European countries were thinking about extending the law into prohibiting any kind of cell phone use, but the problem with that is enforcement. If you have the cell phone in your hand, it’s easy to spot it, but with handsfree kits it’s impossible – you might be talking to yourself, to the passenger, to your kid… You’d have to prohibit the driver from engaging in ANY kind of conversation while driving. Which is actually a great idea, but wouldn’t be passed in any country I can think of.
I know some states over here are passing similar compulsory-handsfree laws, but they are FAR too lenient. A small fine and that’s it.
Honestly, talking on the cell phone is only slightly less dangerous and irresponsible than drunk driving (by the way, I also consider DUI laws too lenient), and should be treated as such.
People just don’t think about the danger they are putting other people in – they must think they’re this superhuman being that is able to FOCUS on multiple tasks at the same time. And this is only going to get worse, since teenagers these days are so convinced they can effectively multitask they really have NO idea that multitasking is basically the art of several tasks POORLY at the same time… Something that, as long as the level of requirement to have passing grades is so low a chimp would graduate from a US High School easily, will not improve.
And cell phones are not all…
The other day I was looking at a forum about Navigation systems and was shocked with the whole industry that is being created around defeating the safeguards that stop people from playing with them while they are driving.
It’s ironic: one of the biggest potential advantages of GPS Navigation systems for cars is exactly to have people concentrate on the driving rather than on navigation. Instead of realizing that and using them as they should be used – stop the freaking car if you want to make changes to your destination! – they want to be able to play with them and watch DVDs while driving.
Human stupidity is truly infinite.
[quote]hspder wrote:
bigflamer wrote:
Three shifts ago, I was responding to a call and came to a stop at the intersection before proceding through (thank god). Some lady, in spite of ALL of the stopped traffic, the big red truck with lights and sirens blaring, flew right threw the intersection in front of us yaking away on her phone. She had a look of absulute shock on her face when she finally noticed what was going on.
What I find most astonishing is that she didn’t get her license revoked right then and there – and a couple of months in jail to think about it.
In most countries in Europe it has been illegal to drive with your cell phone in your hand for at least half a decade. When I lived in The Netherlands it was already illegal there, and police actively chased people if they caught them on the phone. Repeat offenders get their licenses revoked. Same thing in every other European country I know of. Unfortunately they still allow you to talk on your phone if you have a fully voice-activated handsfree kit – I say unfortunately because the biggest problem is not people operating the damn phone, it’s the distraction that comes with talking with people on the phone. I know that many European countries were thinking about extending the law into prohibiting any kind of cell phone use, but the problem with that is enforcement. If you have the cell phone in your hand, it’s easy to spot it, but with handsfree kits it’s impossible – you might be talking to yourself, to the passenger, to your kid… You’d have to prohibit the driver from engaging in ANY kind of conversation while driving. Which is actually a great idea, but wouldn’t be passed in any country I can think of.
I know some states over here are passing similar compulsory-handsfree laws, but they are FAR too lenient. A small fine and that’s it.
Honestly, talking on the cell phone is only slightly less dangerous and irresponsible than drunk driving (by the way, I also consider DUI laws too lenient), and should be treated as such.
People just don’t think about the danger they are putting other people in – they must think they’re this superhuman being that is able to FOCUS on multiple tasks at the same time. And this is only going to get worse, since teenagers these days are so convinced they can effectively multitask they really have NO idea that multitasking is basically the art of several tasks POORLY at the same time… Something that, as long as the level of requirement to have passing grades is so low a chimp would graduate from a US High School easily, will not improve.
And cell phones are not all…
The other day I was looking at a forum about Navigation systems and was shocked with the whole industry that is being created around defeating the safeguards that stop people from playing with them while they are driving.
It’s ironic: one of the biggest potential advantages of GPS Navigation systems for cars is exactly to have people concentrate on the driving rather than on navigation. Instead of realizing that and using them as they should be used – stop the freaking car if you want to make changes to your destination! – they want to be able to play with them and watch DVDs while driving.
Human stupidity is truly infinite.[/quote]
Without gadgets added to the equation, driving these days has so many distractions. A friend of mine once said he was driving to London and he forgot his mobile phone, so instead he picked up his shoe, pressed it to his ear, swerved al lover the road, did a sudden speed reduction and mounted the pavement (sidewalk) a few times. Which is about right for most people using phones.
[quote]Dr. Stig wrote:
Without gadgets added to the equation, driving these days has so many distractions. A friend of mine once said he was driving to London and he forgot his mobile phone, so instead he picked up his shoe, pressed it to his ear, swerved al lover the road, did a sudden speed reduction and mounted the pavement (sidewalk) a few times. Which is about right for most people using phones.[/quote]
Goddamnit, I am so tired of all these freakin’ motorcycle threads.
Haven’t we all heard all the arguments already? How many more times do we need to hear about ccs?
If I hear “What are YOU going to do about your gas bill” ONE MORE TIME, I swear I’ll go postal.
Can we PLEASE get a separate forum for motorcycle related posts? GAWD.
[quote]nephorm wrote:
Goddamnit, I am so tired of all these freakin’ motorcycle threads.
Haven’t we all heard all the arguments already? How many more times do we need to hear about ccs?
If I hear “What are YOU going to do about your gas bill” ONE MORE TIME, I swear I’ll go postal.
Can we PLEASE get a separate forum for motorcycle related posts? GAWD.[/quote]
You fail to see the almighty power that is the motorcycle. We are talking about 1/3 the price of driving an SUV or less. We are talking about 10 bucks of premium fuel for a week’s worth of driving compared to 50. We are talking about open spaces and riding with a girl mounted on the back!!
With that in mind, tell me, what will YOUUUUUU do about your gasoline bill???
How much longer can you deny the bill?
[quote]Dr. Stig wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Dr. Stig wrote:
Also people who can’t handle the bike. I did have a go of this 600cc crosser the other day, if someone not familiar with bikes that accelerate that fast, only disaster would come of it. When I say fast, I mean like 70 mph faster than say an R1.
You must be joking. What 600cc is faster than an R1? Maybe I misunderstood your post.
An uncorked, unplugged (totally un-restricted XR600) tweaked, fastest bike I’ve ridden to 70 mph easily. Its not the case of just riding it, its trying to hang on.
Whilst a Std. XR650 say is not as quick as an R1 they are way way fast would beat most 600c sportsbike to 60 'cos of the gearing and torque.
I might get an XR650 as my next bike because you can give them another 20 bhp for hardly any cash.[/quote]
Dr.Stig , If you like the big XR’s give a CCM a ride,They handle a little better ,made in jolly old england,and they used to have a program where you could go on a factory ride for a few days to try them before buying.My son has a late 90’s CCM with the Rotax engine with 640 kit and its awesome.give them a try i think you’d really like them.