Motorcycle Accident

[quote]JohnnyBlaze wrote:
Just wondering -

Why is it that most guys want bigger and bigger bikes, and talk about a bike being too small?

Is it like a cock size thing?

I personally like a small bike that I can pick up and throw around, and simply riding is thrill enough for me…I don’t feel the need for insane power, size and acceleration between my legs, because there’s hardly anywhere on the road here where you get a chance to use its full potential anyway, without risking losing your licence or your life.[/quote]

Meaning this in an honest and polite way: are you confusing big bikes with hyped-up racing bikes? Because as far as I know, man, the bigger bikes aren’t exactly famous for their acceleration. You can pull a truck with a big Harley, but chances are you’re not going to win many races with it. :wink:

I’ve been looking at getting one for the comfort factor. Heavier bikes deal well with travel conditions. Some people find raised handlebars and lower seats more comfortable for distance riding. The 2008 HD Softail Rockers are built with that in mind… not that I’m planning on shelling out the cash for something new. Not unless a lottery win comes my way.

[quote]Northcott wrote:
JohnnyBlaze wrote:
Just wondering -

Why is it that most guys want bigger and bigger bikes, and talk about a bike being too small?

Is it like a cock size thing?

I personally like a small bike that I can pick up and throw around, and simply riding is thrill enough for me…I don’t feel the need for insane power, size and acceleration between my legs, because there’s hardly anywhere on the road here where you get a chance to use its full potential anyway, without risking losing your licence or your life.

Meaning this in an honest and polite way: are you confusing big bikes with hyped-up racing bikes? Because as far as I know, man, the bigger bikes aren’t exactly famous for their acceleration. You can pull a truck with a big Harley, but chances are you’re not going to win many races with it. :wink:

I’ve been looking at getting one for the comfort factor. Heavier bikes deal well with travel conditions. Some people find raised handlebars and lower seats more comfortable for distance riding. The 2008 HD Softail Rockers are built with that in mind… not that I’m planning on shelling out the cash for something new. Not unless a lottery win comes my way.
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this big bike/small bike thing is getting a little out of context. what was originally said was that someones cbr600 was getting a little small. i take that to mean the rider might have sights set on a 1000cc sportbike in the future, not necessarily a harley/cruiser.

[quote]BiG BeN wrote:
Damn Dez, sorry to hear about your accident. I remember talking to you about getting a bike.

That type of accident really pisses me off. And its shitty you got the worst of it looking out for someone else, and then they don’t even stop…I’ve seen someone get cut off in the right lane by a van and they fell over, the van didn’t stop. But the rider and passenger were not hurt.

I’ve never heard of this type of situation, I’ll definitely be watching turn lanes from now on.

Are you going to keep the bike, get another if they can it, or are you done?

Anyway take care of those rashes, I’m glad you reacted in time and it wasn’t any worse. Hope the police can somehow piece together the info on the driver so you can sue his ass for leaving you on the road, then you can buy a Ferrari! Take care Dez.[/quote]

the short answer: i dont think im done with bikes, but i do think im done with that bike.

the long answer:

im not really sure what to do with the bike. in the few hours after the accident and after i got home i was still scared shitless, and in the process of calling brother, uncles, etc and letting everyone know i was ok, im sure i told everyone that the bike was going up for sale, with no intentions of hopping on a bike any time soon.

by the next day, or perhaps even later that night, i was online looking at pictures of sportsters. i have definitely had some fun on the RR, but a few weeks after i bought it, it kinda hit me that part of the excitement about buying a harley (as i had planned on doing for an entire year previous to the honda purchase) was that i was going to hop on the bike and do some weekend trips and stuff. the 600rr is definitely a fun bike, the acceleration was insane to me, and it was stable as a rock, but its not something i could ride for more than 60 miles or so a pop. at that point my butt would be going numb and my knees would be getting locked up, etc. point being- i had already decided that next spring i would try and get some good money for the RR and move it on over to a cruiser, something id be more comfortable on hopping on and heading a few hours away for the weekend or whatever.

now the idea of a cruiser has progressed to a sportster. i have always had a thing for sportsters. most people think of them as either a chick’s bike or a beginner bike, maybe something you ride around and get the feel of for a season or two before buying that wideglide of fat boy. i see them differently- those things are hot rods baby! so im going to see what i can do about getting this bike fixed and picking up a 1200 sportster. a Nightster would be great because its already low, which is something i like. but i could also save a few bucks by getting 1200 low, gives up an inch in seat height, but id take one of those any year 2000+.

damn dude, glad to hear you are ok!

i’m lucky i never went down when i had my bike.

heal up bro!

Glad to hear you’re okay but this is exactly the reason why you’ll never catch me on a motorcycle.

[quote]Khronos wrote:
Glad to hear you’re okay but this is exactly the reason why you’ll never catch me on a motorcycle. [/quote]

You won’t catch me either. I am too fast!

[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
You won’t catch me either. I am too fast![/quote]

Ha!

If you live in a rural area, then riding a motorcycle makes sense, but never in stop and go, urban, commuter traffic. The risks are just too high. For me least ways, but then I’ve outgrown (outlived) the live fast, die young, leave a beautiful corpse mentality…

Best of luck healing up Dez. All comes down to saddle up and get back on it soon. Nothing like jumping back on the proverbial iron horse to move on with it. Urban traffic is filled with idiots in cages and just about as many untrained idiots riding bikes that are more powerful than they can handle.

Anyone can ride a powerful scooter…it’s when it comes down to game time and choices have to be made in practically no time. I personally believe that all sport bikes and bikes over a certain HP/torque rating should have to be earned. More people have bikes than have an understanding of how to actually ride one.

I have been riding for almost 20 years and have seen my share of thrills and spills. I personally think sport bikes are for the track and areas where they can be used how they were meant to be. It ain’t all about going fast…as you learned 30mph could have killed you just as quickly as 120. Keep it between the white lines, heal up and get your knees back in the wind.

[quote]Khronos wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
You won’t catch me either. I am too fast!

Ha!

If you live in a rural area, then riding a motorcycle makes sense, but never in stop and go, urban, commuter traffic. The risks are just too high. For me least ways, but then I’ve outgrown (outlived) the live fast, die young, leave a beautiful corpse mentality…[/quote]

Me too. I was just joking there. I commute quite a bit on my motorcycle. I absolutely love it but there are some moments I question my sanity.

I was working at the hospital the other night on Fort Hood, and a guy was brought it with his face crushed. He tried to go from 150 MPH to a stop, and left a nice long skid mark on the highway. He hit a van while still hauling ass and no helmet. He was really screwed, to put it mildly. You got lucky, really lucky. Most of our motorcycle accidents come out very badly.

[quote]Khronos wrote:
If you live in a rural area, then riding a motorcycle makes sense, but never in stop and go, urban, commuter traffic. The risks are just too high. For me least ways, but then I’ve outgrown (outlived) the live fast, die young, leave a beautiful corpse mentality…[/quote]

Rural areas are nice for bikes, but the thing is to have plenty of twisties nearby. E.g. see the San Francisco Bay Area. There are tons of hills everywhere around the bay. The roads up in the hills are awesome, most of the time there’s no traffic, and they’re practically in your backyard.

I’ve been told that LA has some nice roads too in their backyard, such as Mt. Palomar, etc.

If all the roads nearby are straight, it sucks to ride a bike.

I hear ya on the cross over, I love my 600RR too much though to give it up. If I did make the change to a street bike like a Harley, I’d want the custom chopper type and that is too far out of my bank! So I keep with the RR that doesn’t need much to change to my liking and its such a smooth ride and engine.

I hear you on the seat, our average ride here is atleast a good 3 hours, I’ve been on 1 time for 12hrs, and by the time 2 hours is up my ass is killing. Corbin makes an aftermarket seat that is alot more comfy but expensive. I’ve ridden a '07 once and the seat is a little better than my '04 but not by much at all.

I’d recommend a softtail Deuce before a Sportster. My wife’s dad had a Sportster to begin with, then on to a Heritage, then to a Deuce. The Deuce was right in between, a tad bigger than the Sportster but alot lighter than the Heritage. But when you love a bike its hard to change your mind, and a Deuce is probably way more money! But I’d recommend test driving someone’s first to see how well you like it.

Anyway man, its good to see you are alright for the most part. And it sounds like you aren’t ready to give up on the road yet, so heal up and keep us updated on your situation.

[quote]JohnnyBlaze wrote:
But yeah, that was my point - why get a big-ass engined, ultra fast bike for daily use when you cannot legally take it to its full potential on the road? [/quote]

Whats so fun about riding legal…LOL!

[quote]BiG BeN wrote:
I hear ya on the cross over, I love my 600RR too much though to give it up. If I did make the change to a street bike like a Harley, I’d want the custom chopper type and that is too far out of my bank! So I keep with the RR that doesn’t need much to change to my liking and its such a smooth ride and engine.

I hear you on the seat, our average ride here is atleast a good 3 hours, I’ve been on 1 time for 12hrs, and by the time 2 hours is up my ass is killing. Corbin makes an aftermarket seat that is alot more comfy but expensive. I’ve ridden a '07 once and the seat is a little better than my '04 but not by much at all.

I’d recommend a softtail Deuce before a Sportster. My wife’s dad had a Sportster to begin with, then on to a Heritage, then to a Deuce. The Deuce was right in between, a tad bigger than the Sportster but alot lighter than the Heritage. But when you love a bike its hard to change your mind, and a Deuce is probably way more money! But I’d recommend test driving someone’s first to see how well you like it.

Anyway man, its good to see you are alright for the most part. And it sounds like you aren’t ready to give up on the road yet, so heal up and keep us updated on your situation.[/quote]

yea im not ready to give up the road/the wind just yet. like i told my mom yesterday, im 22 and im already on my second bike…its a little ridiculous for me to think im never going to own a bike again.

although, i doubt it will be this season. i was actually thinking and im not even sure it will be while i live in this area. i may just have to try and be mature about it and come to grips with the fact that its just too dangerous to ride a bike in such a congested area.

i actually have never ridden a harley, although i work part time at the local harley dealership. i just think the sportster is right up my alley- though im like you in the fact that i want to customize. but, i dont want to “customize” the harley way in which you pay $1200 dollars to chrome one side of your engine and then pay $800 for the labor to put it all on.

actually, i couldnt care less about chrome. i have seen some nice harleys that are chromed out in a tasteful way, but i think a lot of people go overboard with it. you look at the thousands of dollars they have spend to have the latest “genuine motor company” accessories, and then you see theyve only put 200 miles on the bike since they bought it a couple years ago. like ok, what have you done, driven this bike home from the store and back?

i would like a sportster, sitting low- ~25in seat height, with either a hardtail frame with a 4in stretch in the rear, or a 4in stretch on the swingarm. minimal rear fender. z-bar apes on risers or nash drag bars on risers. and black. for me, that bike would kick ass.

people forget that the sportster doesnt have as big of an engine as the rest of the harleys, but it doesnt weigh as much either. people tend to think of it as a girls bike or a beginners bike, but i think that is mostly flawed. sure, its smaller, but its supposed to be! its a sportster! how many huge sports cars have you seen?

injury update: was adjusting the ankle brace yesterday to put my shoe on and head to school and i saw how bruised/swolled my right ankle/foot was. i did go to school monday and it was miserable. so, i decided to that it was more important to get to the ortho yesterday, than go to school.

so it turns out theres a small chip of bone off the back of my ankle, but its in such a position that casting the foot wouldnt make a difference- ok, no big deal. BUT the doc said that i should expect to have swelling and bruising for the next 6-8 weeks and that my ankle wont be back to normal range of motion for 2-3 months! what the fuck!?!?!!!

this info definitely floored me and pretty much screws up my option of going marine ocs in january. in order to be in the shape that i needed to be in, i needed this accident to never occur. oh well, ive got some other options that ive been pursuing.

Sportster’s are the most underestimated bikes from Harley Davidson. 883’s are indeed a weaker bike and a good bike for beginners. 1200cc sporty’s are a whole different beast in itself. Out of the hole no other HD will touch them …not even the joke-rod.

Sportsters however are size specific to enjoy…I am right under 5’8" and they fit me fine without extending the forward controls. They are a bit thin in width in comparison to the other models but their turn degree of angle in turns are deeper than other models.

They are nimble and fast bikes and underestimated. I had an 01 1200 XL custom and with bolt on parts would eat 100 cubic inch plus V-twins in short runs. If you are looking for comfort, lots of part availability and enjoyment a softail or dyna would be great bikes that can be bought with no “bling” for a good price. A dyna street bob is a great bike for budget with some good look to it as well.

You would have to add a backseat or a stick on phantom pad if you wanted to haul a passenger. Either way, if you wanted to drop all those parts onto a sportster it would be a bad investment due to the resale on them to drops steadily after 2-3 years. Best option …get your budget together and test ride, test ride, test ride…ride is way more important than the looks.

[quote]Irish Muscle wrote:
dez6485 wrote:

ah shit balls dez i only seen this post now. really sorry to hear that. hope your back skin heals up soon lucky your tats werent efected. that guy driving the car must have been a serious prick, he/she deserves a one rep max in the face.

how long before you get back to your training again?
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hey thanks irish. the back skin is actually doing really well. it has pretty much all scabbed up, and even most of the scabbing has fallen off in the shower and such (sorry if thats gross to anyone). mostly a lot of light pinkish sensitive skin now, but the good thing is it no longer hurts.

my ankle isnt really showing improvement as it did within the first couple of days. the accident happened last saturday, and between saturday and monday there was actually the most dramatic improvement- i suppose thats when the initial swelling went down. there hasnt been much improvement since then.

it doesnt so much hurt, but its annoying walking around with a limp, and if im on it for too long, itll start to swell up even more and basically my foot just feels like its a water baloon. seeing as i cant just stop and prop it up with ice wherever/whenever i want- its getting pretty annoying.

i had to take off of work this weekend because of it, and told them all ‘see ya next weekend’ but unless theres some remarkable improvement this week then i wont be doing that either.

training…i plan to try and get into the gym later this week. i have some catching up to do with school this week, a few papers, few tests, etc., and they are keeping me pretty busy until thurs anyway. and since i wont be able to go with any kind of intensity with a bad foot, im going to treat the gym as my reward on friday for getting through the tough week.

i figure ill get in there and do some light weight stuff, see how my body feels. ill probably do mostly machines. i guess ill see how it goes.