Motorcycle Accident

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[quote]rrjc5488 wrote:
Yikes man. Sorry to hear about it- glad to hear you’re still alive.

How’s the bike doin?[/quote]

thanks. i honestly dont know what the bike looks like. when i stopped skidding i was on my back with my limbs all tucked in tight and i didnt move. from the split second glimpse i got as it all happened the bike ended up 15ft or so further down the road. for the next hour or so i only saw sky and ceiling. i was told it wasnt too bad though.

however, all the plastic on the thing alone is upwards of $1500 im sure. and then with bikes, its the littlest, (seemingly) most insignificant parts that cost you a bundle. oh well, ive got full nationwide insurance, so other than my deductable ill be ok. im looking to get the bike fixed and grab a 1200 sportster, maybe a nightster.

thanks for everyones thoughts/support.

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[quote]dez6485 wrote:
SkyzykS wrote:
[road rash pic/]

Damn. But hey, thats what morphine is for!

Get well soon.

morphine?! yea right, i wish! i got to the hospital about 3:15pm, the first time i got anything for the pain was about 6:30-6:45pm when i got home and took one of the prescribed pain pills.

and boooooy i could have used it. they had to use a sponge with soap and wipe all over the roadrash and then scrub it to get the pieces of my t-shirt and gravel out. about halfway through the first time, i asked the nurse to stop because it was burning so badly.

she then went to get some numbing solution, which when applied, burned worse than my back burned after i was done skidding on the street. this “numbing solution” never numbed a fucking thing. while waiting for that to kick in, some other nurses took me for various x-rays.

by the time i retured from x-ray, it had apparently taken so long that the whole cleaning process for the roadrash had to be started over. this time it was a new nurse, and she was trying to put that numbing crap on me again…i very politely told her not to put that fucking shit on me again…

the meds i ended up with- hydrocodone and ibuprofen 800mg. i was hoping the meds would be something strong enough to knock me out, but at least it got me comfortable the last two days on the couch. now its monday, back to school, taking forever to walk across campus…[/quote]

Sorry to hear about the accident. That really sucks, but hopefully you have a quick recovery.

I laid my CBR down many years ago, just hit a patch of sand with the front tire going around a corner. I remember skidding across the tar watching my bike spinning ahead of me and watching my girlfriend sliding into the grass on the side of the road behind me.

We couldn’t have been doing more than 30mph at the time, but it was almost dreamlike how slow everything seemed to happen. I remember looking back to see if my gf was ok, and seeing my shoelaces had ripped off my shoe but they were still in a perfect knot lying in the middle of the road.

I also vividly remember the nurse scrubbing the sand and bits of blue jeans out of my shin with what looked like a piece of steel wool, and the doctor grabbing my hands and forearms and twisting it in various directions to check for fractures.

The worst part was that we were in Maine, and being dumb ass college students we weren’t wearing any helmets, because, of course, they don’t require them in Maine, so why would you? I pressed my hands/forearms into the ground so as not to hit my face on the ground, and they were full of pebbles. That was the last time I rode without a helmet.

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[quote]dez6485 wrote:
rrjc5488 wrote:
Yikes man. Sorry to hear about it- glad to hear you’re still alive.

How’s the bike doin?

thanks. i honestly dont know what the bike looks like. when i stopped skidding i was on my back with my limbs all tucked in tight and i didnt move. from the split second glimpse i got as it all happened the bike ended up 15ft or so further down the road. for the next hour or so i only saw sky and ceiling. i was told it wasnt too bad though.

however, all the plastic on the thing alone is upwards of $1500 im sure. and then with bikes, its the littlest, (seemingly) most insignificant parts that cost you a bundle. oh well, ive got full nationwide insurance, so other than my deductable ill be ok. im looking to get the bike fixed and grab a 1200 sportster, maybe a nightster.

thanks for everyones thoughts/support.[/quote]

Mine was $2,000 just to replace the plastic on the left side of the bike and all the various levers and handles that got twisted. $1,500 might be a little conservative if you went over the bars.

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haha, sweet. maybe itll be easier to get that sportster than i thought! what kind of bike did you have?

i was only going about 35mph also, but i suppose the fact that im going to want every little scratch taken care of is something to think about also. although the bike was dirty, there wasnt a scratch on the thing.

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[quote]dez6485 wrote:
haha, sweet. maybe itll be easier to get that sportster than i thought! what kind of bike did you have?

i was only going about 35mph also, but i suppose the fact that im going to want every little scratch taken care of is something to think about also. although the bike was dirty, there wasnt a scratch on the thing.[/quote]

It was a CBR600, which I still have to this day. It’s a bit small now, but it’s jetted, ignition advance, race-only exhaust, so it still has some nice get up and go. The best thing is that it’s paid for, and insurance costs me about $200 a year!

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[quote]Modi wrote:

It was a CBR600, which I still have to this day. It’s a bit small now, but it’s jetted, ignition advance, race-only exhaust, so it still has some nice get up and go. The best thing is that it’s paid for, and insurance costs me about $200 a year![/quote]

Just wondering -

Why is it that most guys want bigger and bigger bikes, and talk about a bike being too small?

Is it like a cock size thing?

I personally like a small bike that I can pick up and throw around, and simply riding is thrill enough for me…I don’t feel the need for insane power, size and acceleration between my legs, because there’s hardly anywhere on the road here where you get a chance to use its full potential anyway, without risking losing your licence or your life.

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[quote]Modi wrote:
dez6485 wrote:
haha, sweet. maybe itll be easier to get that sportster than i thought! what kind of bike did you have?

i was only going about 35mph also, but i suppose the fact that im going to want every little scratch taken care of is something to think about also. although the bike was dirty, there wasnt a scratch on the thing.

It was a CBR600, which I still have to this day. It’s a bit small now, but it’s jetted, ignition advance, race-only exhaust, so it still has some nice get up and go. The best thing is that it’s paid for, and insurance costs me about $200 a year![/quote]

im sure thats a fun bike. i bought mine for cash in mid june, hopefully i see most of that money again. im 22y/o though, so my insurance is ~$1700/yr

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[quote]JohnnyBlaze wrote:
Modi wrote:

It was a CBR600, which I still have to this day. It’s a bit small now, but it’s jetted, ignition advance, race-only exhaust, so it still has some nice get up and go. The best thing is that it’s paid for, and insurance costs me about $200 a year!

Just wondering -

Why is it that most guys want bigger and bigger bikes, and talk about a bike being too small?

Is it like a cock size thing?

I personally like a small bike that I can pick up and throw around, and simply riding is thrill enough for me…I don’t feel the need for insane power, size and acceleration between my legs, because there’s hardly anywhere on the road here where you get a chance to use its full potential anyway, without risking losing your licence or your life.[/quote]

i cant exactly answer for him, but he might be speaking of physical size. since he is a T-Nation reader, perhaps he has put on a bit more size since purchasing the 600. although a lot of todays liter bikes are within a mere inch here and there of being the same dimensions, there are some larger bikes that would allow a larger rider to spread out more than on an older cbr600rr. heck, even the riding position between mine (07) and last years is a big difference. oh yea, and im obligated to say that riding that bike made me feel like i had a bigger dick. j/k, but hitting any kind of bump in the road certainly reminds you that its there.

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Sorry to hear about your off. Been there done that, no fun at all. I hope they track down the bastard that pulled out on you. It is incredibly frustrating that most people don’t understand the consequence of there lack of ability and or lapse in concentration. Some people just have no idea of the dangerous situations they put you in. I know hindsight is a wonderful thing but remember this next time you are thinking of leaving your gear behind.

JB I’m guessing you are on your restricted licence going from your NSR. Trust me the small bike thing is a whole lot of fun so enjoy it while you can. Give it a couple of years, take a few bikes for a test ride then ask yourself the same question. I guarantee you won’t have the same opinion. Also there are tracks that offer ride days all over the country. Riding fast on the streets is like squatting without a rack and after riding at the track you will realise just how risky it is.

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[quote]JohnnyBlaze wrote:
Modi wrote:

It was a CBR600, which I still have to this day. It’s a bit small now, but it’s jetted, ignition advance, race-only exhaust, so it still has some nice get up and go. The best thing is that it’s paid for, and insurance costs me about $200 a year!

Just wondering -

Why is it that most guys want bigger and bigger bikes, and talk about a bike being too small?

Is it like a cock size thing?

I personally like a small bike that I can pick up and throw around, and simply riding is thrill enough for me…I don’t feel the need for insane power, size and acceleration between my legs, because there’s hardly anywhere on the road here where you get a chance to use its full potential anyway, without risking losing your licence or your life.[/quote]

I just got back from a 4,600 mile roundtrip from the east coast of the U.S. to South Dakota. I ride a 600+ pound Harley-Davidson Dyna Super-Glide Sport (1,430 cc). During the course of the trip I decided that before I do that trip again I need a bigger bike, with a heavier front end and a windscreen. I’m looking at a 2006 Road King Police Special. No cock size issues.

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[quote]Overlander wrote:
JB I’m guessing you are on your restricted licence going from your NSR. Trust me the small bike thing is a whole lot of fun so enjoy it while you can. Give it a couple of years, take a few bikes for a test ride then ask yourself the same question. I guarantee you won’t have the same opinion. Also there are tracks that offer ride days all over the country. Riding fast on the streets is like squatting without a rack and after riding at the track you will realise just how risky it is.
[/quote]

Actually I got my unrestricted license first go, through Q-Ride at Pro Honda, being tested on a 600cc bike. I can legally ride the bigger bikes, but choose not to for now, at least until I get some more real on-road experience under my belt - hopefully safely.

I honestly don’t know how I passed the course, lol. It took every ounce of my concentration, strength and willpower to keep that bike under control, and I almost lost it a couple of times but lucky the instructor didn’t see those moments. I remember during the front wheel braking exercise, I got the back wheel up about a foot in the air, which was pretty cool.

I can still get my little two-stroker NSR from 0-100 in about 3 seconds, which I tested on an empty, straight new street in the neighbourhood that doesn’t have any houses or residents in it just yet.

But yeah, that was my point - why get a big-ass engined, ultra fast bike for daily use when you cannot legally take it to its full potential on the road?

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[quote]Loose Tool wrote:
JohnnyBlaze wrote:
Modi wrote:

It was a CBR600, which I still have to this day. It’s a bit small now, but it’s jetted, ignition advance, race-only exhaust, so it still has some nice get up and go. The best thing is that it’s paid for, and insurance costs me about $200 a year!

Just wondering -

Why is it that most guys want bigger and bigger bikes, and talk about a bike being too small?

Is it like a cock size thing?

I personally like a small bike that I can pick up and throw around, and simply riding is thrill enough for me…I don’t feel the need for insane power, size and acceleration between my legs, because there’s hardly anywhere on the road here where you get a chance to use its full potential anyway, without risking losing your licence or your life.

I just got back from a 4,600 mile roundtrip from the east coast of the U.S. to South Dakota. I ride a 600+ pound Harley-Davidson Dyna Super-Glide Sport (1,430 cc). During the course of the trip I decided that before I do that trip again I need a bigger bike, with a heavier front end and a windscreen. I’m looking at a 2006 Road King Police Special. No cock size issues.[/quote]

That’s fine. What’s the underlying motivation behind that feeling of needing a bigger bike?

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[quote]dez6485 wrote:

i cant exactly answer for him, but he might be speaking of physical size. since he is a T-Nation reader, perhaps he has put on a bit more size since purchasing the 600. although a lot of todays liter bikes are within a mere inch here and there of being the same dimensions, there are some larger bikes that would allow a larger rider to spread out more than on an older cbr600rr. heck, even the riding position between mine (07) and last years is a big difference. oh yea, and im obligated to say that riding that bike made me feel like i had a bigger dick. j/k, but hitting any kind of bump in the road certainly reminds you that its there.
[/quote]

lol

I suppose it might be something to do with height? I’m only average height at 5’11 so can fit most bikes. I’m not weak. But the sheer weight and mass of a liter bike or above is daunting.

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[quote]JohnnyBlaze wrote:
dez6485 wrote:

i cant exactly answer for him, but he might be speaking of physical size. since he is a T-Nation reader, perhaps he has put on a bit more size since purchasing the 600. although a lot of todays liter bikes are within a mere inch here and there of being the same dimensions, there are some larger bikes that would allow a larger rider to spread out more than on an older cbr600rr. heck, even the riding position between mine (07) and last years is a big difference. oh yea, and im obligated to say that riding that bike made me feel like i had a bigger dick. j/k, but hitting any kind of bump in the road certainly reminds you that its there.

lol

I suppose it might be something to do with height? I’m only average height at 5’11 so can fit most bikes. I’m not weak. But the sheer weight and mass of a liter bike or above is daunting.

[/quote]

also something to consider- while my cbr600rr is certainly powerful, and all the power i would want, it is not powerful from the take off. meaning, that thing does not rip right from 0mph like a liter bike would.

however, these days, if one wanted a bike that was bigger in dimensions, they might have to go to a busa or zx-14. my neighbor has an 07 r1, and i remember comparing the specs of his vs. mine, and they were shockingly close. i mean the r1 was an inch bigger here, and inch bigger there, but it was not vastly different, nor much heavier, whilst still having 400cc’s more bite

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Damn!
First off - I’m sorry to hear that, I hope there will be no lasting consequences.

It is unclear whether you could have stopped in time. One thing that I keep hearing from old riders (who lived to tell stories by the camp fire) is “practice emergency braking”. Which means, once every 3 months or so, put your best gear on (full leather, right?), go to an empty parking lot, and - well, practice emergency braking.

Technically, that was not a high side. It was just too much front brake.

The best gear does not help if it’s in the locker. BTW, “best gear” means leather jacket AND leather pants. There isn’t much difference between jeans and being butt naked if you’re doing over 40 or so. Sadly, I’m speaking from first hand experience.

Squeezing the limbs in is a reflex due to bad gear. If you’re wearing full leathers, you can actually spread the arms and legs out, to prevent rolling - with good gear you can just keep sliding and nothing much will happen to you (unless you hit something).

I hope the cager gets hit by a bus one day and goes to that special place in Hell reserved for people like that.

You can hit the pavement at 120 mph and more and be perfectly fine - provided that you’re wearing good gear and nothing stops you too early from sliding. I’ve spoken with people who crashed at high speeds - but all of them crashed at the track, while wearing racing leathers, the whole nine yards.

That picture looks nasty, but I guess it could have been worse.

And dude, who the fuck cares about tatoos and shoes? Heal up quickly and fix the bike, the rest means nothing.

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[quote]dez6485 wrote:
also something to consider- while my cbr600rr is certainly powerful, and all the power i would want, it is not powerful from the take off. meaning, that thing does not rip right from 0mph like a liter bike would.[/quote]

0-60 mph performance for modern sportbikes:
typical 600 cc - 3.1 sec
typical 1000 cc - 2.9 sec

The difference is negligible on the street. It’s still all but negligible at the track, unless we’re talking about experienced riders.
Also note that the times above are obtained only when the bike is handled by an expert.

What you’re really looking for is more torque. I think we had this discussion before. If you really want more torque, then either cough up the money on a 1000cc, or get a Daytona 675 which costs about the same like a 600 but has the torque of a 1000 at low and medium engine speeds, which is almost always the case on the street.
Or keep the 600cc and change the gearing. The top speed will decrease a little (you said you don’t care much about that) but torque will increase.

But based on what just happened, I don’t think more torque is what you really need. Get better gear, take more riding classes (the MSF has both beginner and advanced classes and they’re pretty good), and just practice all by yourself whenever you can.

Riding a sportbike is not like playing beachball. It’s more like benching 400lb+. It’s not for everyone and it takes time to get there.

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[quote]JohnnyBlaze wrote:
Loose Tool wrote:
JohnnyBlaze wrote:
Modi wrote:

It was a CBR600, which I still have to this day. It’s a bit small now, but it’s jetted, ignition advance, race-only exhaust, so it still has some nice get up and go. The best thing is that it’s paid for, and insurance costs me about $200 a year!

Just wondering -

Why is it that most guys want bigger and bigger bikes, and talk about a bike being too small?

Is it like a cock size thing?

I personally like a small bike that I can pick up and throw around, and simply riding is thrill enough for me…I don’t feel the need for insane power, size and acceleration between my legs, because there’s hardly anywhere on the road here where you get a chance to use its full potential anyway, without risking losing your licence or your life.

I just got back from a 4,600 mile roundtrip from the east coast of the U.S. to South Dakota. I ride a 600+ pound Harley-Davidson Dyna Super-Glide Sport (1,430 cc). During the course of the trip I decided that before I do that trip again I need a bigger bike, with a heavier front end and a windscreen. I’m looking at a 2006 Road King Police Special. No cock size issues.

That’s fine. What’s the underlying motivation behind that feeling of needing a bigger bike?
[/quote]

If you have ever taken a long distance road trip and dealt with cross winds etc you would understand wanting a heavier bike. They provide an overall nicer ride.

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[quote]JohnnyBlaze wrote:
That’s fine. What’s the underlying motivation behind that feeling of needing a bigger bike?
[/quote]

The motivation is vibration. We rode 400 to 500 miles a day for 4 to 5 days at a stretch. At 75 mph, the vibration gets tiring.

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[quote]florin wrote:
dez6485 wrote:
also something to consider- while my cbr600rr is certainly powerful, and all the power i would want, it is not powerful from the take off. meaning, that thing does not rip right from 0mph like a liter bike would.

0-60 mph performance for modern sportbikes:
typical 600 cc - 3.1 sec
typical 1000 cc - 2.9 sec

The difference is negligible on the street. It’s still all but negligible at the track, unless we’re talking about experienced riders.
Also note that the times above are obtained only when the bike is handled by an expert.

What you’re really looking for is more torque. I think we had this discussion before. If you really want more torque, then either cough up the money on a 1000cc, or get a Daytona 675 which costs about the same like a 600 but has the torque of a 1000 at low and medium engine speeds, which is almost always the case on the street.
Or keep the 600cc and change the gearing. The top speed will decrease a little (you said you don’t care much about that) but torque will increase.

But based on what just happened, I don’t think more torque is what you really need. Get better gear, take more riding classes (the MSF has both beginner and advanced classes and they’re pretty good), and just practice all by yourself whenever you can.

Riding a sportbike is not like playing beachball. It’s more like benching 400lb+. It’s not for everyone and it takes time to get there.[/quote]

i am not the one that wants a bigger bike. i dont even want to be on a bike right now.

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Damn Dez, sorry to hear about your accident. I remember talking to you about getting a bike.

That type of accident really pisses me off. And its shitty you got the worst of it looking out for someone else, and then they don’t even stop…I’ve seen someone get cut off in the right lane by a van and they fell over, the van didn’t stop. But the rider and passenger were not hurt.

I’ve never heard of this type of situation, I’ll definitely be watching turn lanes from now on.

Are you going to keep the bike, get another if they can it, or are you done?

Anyway take care of those rashes, I’m glad you reacted in time and it wasn’t any worse. Hope the police can somehow piece together the info on the driver so you can sue his ass for leaving you on the road, then you can buy a Ferrari! Take care Dez.