Most Powerful Superhero of All Time?

[quote]Pootie Tang wrote:
God damn this forum is slow today. Redstar you cannot tell me that Doomsday is not a DC Hulk clone. When the folks at DC got together to decide to create a character that can KILL Superman isn’t it strange that they just made Hulk with an a bone exo skeleton? That’s because Hulk.Is.Unstoppable.

Wol is right about the judgment criteria although. If were basing it on his criteria I still gotta go with Ben Richards.[/quote]

Hulk is highly stoppable but lets not reopen that can of worms. In terms of the most powerful heroes it’s high level reality warpers like Franklin Richards and Mr M. Classic Dr Strange is a total beast.

Both company’s rob characters and ideas off each other.

This is pointless. And I should know better… but since General Zod hates Superman… I lifted this from another thread online.

Iron Man beat Hulk in Iron Man #132. Knocked the Hulk completely unconscious with one amped-up punch that completely drained the Iron Man armor.

The Fantastic Four beat Hulk in Fantastic Four #167. Sue Richards encased his head in a small force field, so Hulk eventually ran out of air and fell unconscious while battling the rest of the team.

Hawkeye and Black Panther beat the Hulk in Avengers Annual #2. Black Panther dodged around a lot to avoid getting smashed by Hulk, while Hawkeye fought Iron Man. After Hawkeye dispatched Iron Man, he fired a knockout gas arrow at the Hulk, causing him to fall unconscious and revert to Banner.

Batman defeated the Hulk during their weird crossover back in the mid-70s. Batman through a gas grenade at the Hulk, then kicked him the solar plexus (!!!) to cause Hulk to inhale the gas deeply. Hulk fell unconscious.

Havok defeated the Hulk in Incredible Hulk #150. This was a pretty impressive win in that it happened in Hulk’s own comic. Havok doesn’t even appear on the cover, possibly because he was embarrassed to be seen in public in that eggbeater mask.

Looks like Hulk isn’t all powerfull afterall. With lame losses like that… Superman has every chance of winning. I mean… does anyone think Ironman could even scratch superman?

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Pootie Tang wrote:
God damn this forum is slow today. Redstar you cannot tell me that Doomsday is not a DC Hulk clone. When the folks at DC got together to decide to create a character that can KILL Superman isn’t it strange that they just made Hulk with an a bone exo skeleton? That’s because Hulk.Is.Unstoppable.

Wol is right about the judgment criteria although. If were basing it on his criteria I still gotta go with Ben Richards.[/quote]

Dude, really?

You are really going to act like DC is unoriginal when characters like Hawkeye (poor man’s Green Arrow) exist?

I mean, really? So any big guy is a Hulk clone?

I laugh in your general direction.

Ha.[/quote]

Sorry fellas my post was taken a little out of context. I was just trying to infer that the guys at DC saw that Superman’s only real match in the ENTIRE comic universe was Hulk so they manifested that with Doomsday as a homage. Just my wild theory mind you but for me it holds water.

I am well aware of the “character sharing” amongst the two companies. Thanos and Darkseid could be twins for god sakes.

[quote]DJS wrote:
This is pointless. And I should know better… but since General Zod hates Superman… I lifted this from another thread online.

Iron Man beat Hulk in Iron Man #132. Knocked the Hulk completely unconscious with one amped-up punch that completely drained the Iron Man armor.

The Fantastic Four beat Hulk in Fantastic Four #167. Sue Richards encased his head in a small force field, so Hulk eventually ran out of air and fell unconscious while battling the rest of the team.

Hawkeye and Black Panther beat the Hulk in Avengers Annual #2. Black Panther dodged around a lot to avoid getting smashed by Hulk, while Hawkeye fought Iron Man. After Hawkeye dispatched Iron Man, he fired a knockout gas arrow at the Hulk, causing him to fall unconscious and revert to Banner.

Batman defeated the Hulk during their weird crossover back in the mid-70s. Batman through a gas grenade at the Hulk, then kicked him the solar plexus (!!!) to cause Hulk to inhale the gas deeply. Hulk fell unconscious.

Havok defeated the Hulk in Incredible Hulk #150. This was a pretty impressive win in that it happened in Hulk’s own comic. Havok doesn’t even appear on the cover, possibly because he was embarrassed to be seen in public in that eggbeater mask.

Looks like Hulk isn’t all powerfull afterall. With lame losses like that… Superman has every chance of winning. I mean… does anyone think Ironman could even scratch superman?

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Hulk is one of the most overrated comic characters ever. His legion of fanboys are impervious to logic and common sense. There are a large number of characters on both Marvel and DC Earth who could beat him.

The only stupid one there is the DC Crossover those are non canon and feature many ridiculous things like Wolverine beating Lobo.

[quote]Pootie Tang wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Pootie Tang wrote:
God damn this forum is slow today. Redstar you cannot tell me that Doomsday is not a DC Hulk clone. When the folks at DC got together to decide to create a character that can KILL Superman isn’t it strange that they just made Hulk with an a bone exo skeleton? That’s because Hulk.Is.Unstoppable.

Wol is right about the judgment criteria although. If were basing it on his criteria I still gotta go with Ben Richards.[/quote]

Dude, really?

You are really going to act like DC is unoriginal when characters like Hawkeye (poor man’s Green Arrow) exist?

I mean, really? So any big guy is a Hulk clone?

I laugh in your general direction.

Ha.[/quote]

Sorry fellas my post was taken a little out of context. I was just trying to infer that the guys at DC saw that Superman’s only real match in the ENTIRE comic universe was Hulk so they manifested that with Doomsday as a homage. Just my wild theory mind you but for me it holds water.

I am well aware of the “character sharing” amongst the two companies. Thanos and Darkseid could be twins for god sakes.
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No grudges held on that one…but Doomsday has a whole ‘corruption’ angle to him that few characters have in the Marvel universe. In the show Smallville, they really pushed that side of him to the point that they made him like an embodiment of “evil” just waiting to prey on your weaknesses so he could infect you. I liked that…and Hulk is nothing like that.

With even better writers, I would actually like to see more of a take on it like Smallville suggested. They even stopped making him a living entity and made it more spiritual…something I really liked.

[quote]DJS wrote:
This is pointless. And I should know better… but since General Zod hates Superman… I lifted this from another thread online.

Iron Man beat Hulk in Iron Man #132. Knocked the Hulk completely unconscious with one amped-up punch that completely drained the Iron Man armor.

The Fantastic Four beat Hulk in Fantastic Four #167. Sue Richards encased his head in a small force field, so Hulk eventually ran out of air and fell unconscious while battling the rest of the team.

Hawkeye and Black Panther beat the Hulk in Avengers Annual #2. Black Panther dodged around a lot to avoid getting smashed by Hulk, while Hawkeye fought Iron Man. After Hawkeye dispatched Iron Man, he fired a knockout gas arrow at the Hulk, causing him to fall unconscious and revert to Banner.

Batman defeated the Hulk during their weird crossover back in the mid-70s. Batman through a gas grenade at the Hulk, then kicked him the solar plexus (!!!) to cause Hulk to inhale the gas deeply. Hulk fell unconscious.

Havok defeated the Hulk in Incredible Hulk #150. This was a pretty impressive win in that it happened in Hulk’s own comic. Havok doesn’t even appear on the cover, possibly because he was embarrassed to be seen in public in that eggbeater mask.

Looks like Hulk isn’t all powerfull afterall. With lame losses like that… Superman has every chance of winning. I mean… does anyone think Ironman could even scratch superman?

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You…bastard. Ok Im gonna indulge you.

First off 100% of those victories were with a Hulk who still was fused with Banner. Ever since the separation there has been NO cap to Hulks strength. If they were to write those battles now they would have to come up with MUCH different ways of beating the Hulk because most of those were knockout gas related, and now it’s said he can hold his breath for an incalculable amount of time.

As far as Iron Man is concerned he is equivalent to Batman with his cunning and tech knowledge and we ALL know bats has owned Superman’s ass countless times. So Ironman would just make a Kryptonite suit or a a Red Sun ray suit or some shit like that and smack Superman around.

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Pootie Tang wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Pootie Tang wrote:
God damn this forum is slow today. Redstar you cannot tell me that Doomsday is not a DC Hulk clone. When the folks at DC got together to decide to create a character that can KILL Superman isn’t it strange that they just made Hulk with an a bone exo skeleton? That’s because Hulk.Is.Unstoppable.

Wol is right about the judgment criteria although. If were basing it on his criteria I still gotta go with Ben Richards.[/quote]

Dude, really?

You are really going to act like DC is unoriginal when characters like Hawkeye (poor man’s Green Arrow) exist?

I mean, really? So any big guy is a Hulk clone?

I laugh in your general direction.

Ha.[/quote]

Sorry fellas my post was taken a little out of context. I was just trying to infer that the guys at DC saw that Superman’s only real match in the ENTIRE comic universe was Hulk so they manifested that with Doomsday as a homage. Just my wild theory mind you but for me it holds water.

I am well aware of the “character sharing” amongst the two companies. Thanos and Darkseid could be twins for god sakes.
[/quote]

No grudges held on that one…but Doomsday has a whole ‘corruption’ angle to him that few characters have in the Marvel universe. In the show Smallville, they really pushed that side of him to the point that they made him like an embodiment of “evil” just waiting to prey on your weaknesses so he could infect you. I liked that…and Hulk is nothing like that.

With even better writers, I would actually like to see more of a take on it like Smallville suggested. They even stopped making him a living entity and made it more spiritual…something I really liked.[/quote]
I think you mean Darkseid, not Doomsday. Doomsday was taken care of at the end of Season 8.

[quote]ucallthatbass wrote:
Damn phone…ss4 goku [/quote]

I’m sure in the 16 episodes it takes him to do fucking anything someone would kick his ass.

[quote]redstar144 wrote:

Hulk is highly stoppable but lets not reopen that can of worms. In terms of the most powerful heroes it’s high level reality warpers like Franklin Richards and Mr M. Classic Dr Strange is a total beast.

Both company’s rob characters and ideas off each other.[/quote]

Holy crap Ive been calling this kid Ben all this damn time. I lose two internetz for that one.

[quote]Pootie Tang wrote:

[quote]DJS wrote:
This is pointless. And I should know better… but since General Zod hates Superman… I lifted this from another thread online.

Iron Man beat Hulk in Iron Man #132. Knocked the Hulk completely unconscious with one amped-up punch that completely drained the Iron Man armor.

The Fantastic Four beat Hulk in Fantastic Four #167. Sue Richards encased his head in a small force field, so Hulk eventually ran out of air and fell unconscious while battling the rest of the team.

Hawkeye and Black Panther beat the Hulk in Avengers Annual #2. Black Panther dodged around a lot to avoid getting smashed by Hulk, while Hawkeye fought Iron Man. After Hawkeye dispatched Iron Man, he fired a knockout gas arrow at the Hulk, causing him to fall unconscious and revert to Banner.

Batman defeated the Hulk during their weird crossover back in the mid-70s. Batman through a gas grenade at the Hulk, then kicked him the solar plexus (!!!) to cause Hulk to inhale the gas deeply. Hulk fell unconscious.

Havok defeated the Hulk in Incredible Hulk #150. This was a pretty impressive win in that it happened in Hulk’s own comic. Havok doesn’t even appear on the cover, possibly because he was embarrassed to be seen in public in that eggbeater mask.

Looks like Hulk isn’t all powerfull afterall. With lame losses like that… Superman has every chance of winning. I mean… does anyone think Ironman could even scratch superman?

[/quote]

You…bastard. Ok Im gonna indulge you.

First off 100% of those victories were with a Hulk who still was fused with Banner. Ever since the separation there has been NO cap to Hulks strength. If they were to write those battles now they would have to come up with MUCH different ways of beating the Hulk because most of those were knockout gas related, and now it’s said he can hold his breath for an incalculable amount of time.

As far as Iron Man is concerned he is equivalent to Batman with his cunning and tech knowledge and we ALL know bats has owned Superman’s ass countless times. So Ironman would just make a Kryptonite suit or a a Red Sun ray suit or some shit like that and smack Superman around.

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We’ll that is Superman’s achilles heel. Betty White can beat the piss out of Superman if she has Krytponite. So that isn’t saying anything. I could say Superman should vaporize Banner with his heat vision before he even has a chance to change into the hulk. But that is a copout. I know you spoke of the seperated hulk but you get my point. I think Superman would win blow for blow because he has a lot more powers than the hulk besides just the super strength.

Superman could toss the hulk into the sun. If the hulk tossed superman, he would just fly back. Then we could test that “incalcuable breath holding ability” while he is being crushed in the center of the suns gravity forever. The end.

[quote]SpnKick540 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Pootie Tang wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Pootie Tang wrote:
God damn this forum is slow today. Redstar you cannot tell me that Doomsday is not a DC Hulk clone. When the folks at DC got together to decide to create a character that can KILL Superman isn’t it strange that they just made Hulk with an a bone exo skeleton? That’s because Hulk.Is.Unstoppable.

Wol is right about the judgment criteria although. If were basing it on his criteria I still gotta go with Ben Richards.[/quote]

Dude, really?

You are really going to act like DC is unoriginal when characters like Hawkeye (poor man’s Green Arrow) exist?

I mean, really? So any big guy is a Hulk clone?

I laugh in your general direction.

Ha.[/quote]

Sorry fellas my post was taken a little out of context. I was just trying to infer that the guys at DC saw that Superman’s only real match in the ENTIRE comic universe was Hulk so they manifested that with Doomsday as a homage. Just my wild theory mind you but for me it holds water.

I am well aware of the “character sharing” amongst the two companies. Thanos and Darkseid could be twins for god sakes.
[/quote]

No grudges held on that one…but Doomsday has a whole ‘corruption’ angle to him that few characters have in the Marvel universe. In the show Smallville, they really pushed that side of him to the point that they made him like an embodiment of “evil” just waiting to prey on your weaknesses so he could infect you. I liked that…and Hulk is nothing like that.

With even better writers, I would actually like to see more of a take on it like Smallville suggested. They even stopped making him a living entity and made it more spiritual…something I really liked.[/quote]
I think you mean Darkseid, not Doomsday. Doomsday was taken care of at the end of Season 8.[/quote]

Yep. My mistake. I got them mixed up.

[quote]DJS wrote:

[quote]Pootie Tang wrote:

[quote]DJS wrote:
This is pointless. And I should know better… but since General Zod hates Superman… I lifted this from another thread online.

Iron Man beat Hulk in Iron Man #132. Knocked the Hulk completely unconscious with one amped-up punch that completely drained the Iron Man armor.

The Fantastic Four beat Hulk in Fantastic Four #167. Sue Richards encased his head in a small force field, so Hulk eventually ran out of air and fell unconscious while battling the rest of the team.

Hawkeye and Black Panther beat the Hulk in Avengers Annual #2. Black Panther dodged around a lot to avoid getting smashed by Hulk, while Hawkeye fought Iron Man. After Hawkeye dispatched Iron Man, he fired a knockout gas arrow at the Hulk, causing him to fall unconscious and revert to Banner.

Batman defeated the Hulk during their weird crossover back in the mid-70s. Batman through a gas grenade at the Hulk, then kicked him the solar plexus (!!!) to cause Hulk to inhale the gas deeply. Hulk fell unconscious.

Havok defeated the Hulk in Incredible Hulk #150. This was a pretty impressive win in that it happened in Hulk’s own comic. Havok doesn’t even appear on the cover, possibly because he was embarrassed to be seen in public in that eggbeater mask.

Looks like Hulk isn’t all powerfull afterall. With lame losses like that… Superman has every chance of winning. I mean… does anyone think Ironman could even scratch superman?

[/quote]

You…bastard. Ok Im gonna indulge you.

First off 100% of those victories were with a Hulk who still was fused with Banner. Ever since the separation there has been NO cap to Hulks strength. If they were to write those battles now they would have to come up with MUCH different ways of beating the Hulk because most of those were knockout gas related, and now it’s said he can hold his breath for an incalculable amount of time.

As far as Iron Man is concerned he is equivalent to Batman with his cunning and tech knowledge and we ALL know bats has owned Superman’s ass countless times. So Ironman would just make a Kryptonite suit or a a Red Sun ray suit or some shit like that and smack Superman around.

[/quote]

We’ll that is Superman’s achilles heel. Betty White can beat the piss out of Superman if she has Krytponite. So that isn’t saying anything. I could say Superman should vaporize Banner with his heat vision before he even has a chance to change into the hulk. But that is a copout. I know you spoke of the seperated hulk but you get my point. I think Superman would win blow for blow because he has a lot more powers than the hulk besides just the super strength.

Superman could toss the hulk into the sun. If the hulk tossed superman, he would just fly back. Then we could test that “incalcuable breath holding ability” while he is being crushed in the center of the suns gravity forever. The end.

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but then while hes getting crushed in the sun and getting those mad 3rd degree burns he’d just get really really angry… Probably pick up the sun and thrown it as superman. Superman gets cancer and dies because the sun was just plastered across his face. Hulk wins…

All you have to do is think logically for two seconds and you see how hulk wins. Hulk win all.

I approve of this thread-

As I was laying in bed last night, I just happened to be wondering who would win in a fight between Hulk and Doomsday.

Opinions? Beyond that Doomsday is the DC version of Hulk? Thats why I’m wondering.

[quote]Amiright wrote:

[quote]DJS wrote:

[quote]Pootie Tang wrote:

[quote]DJS wrote:
This is pointless. And I should know better… but since General Zod hates Superman… I lifted this from another thread online.

Iron Man beat Hulk in Iron Man #132. Knocked the Hulk completely unconscious with one amped-up punch that completely drained the Iron Man armor.

The Fantastic Four beat Hulk in Fantastic Four #167. Sue Richards encased his head in a small force field, so Hulk eventually ran out of air and fell unconscious while battling the rest of the team.

Hawkeye and Black Panther beat the Hulk in Avengers Annual #2. Black Panther dodged around a lot to avoid getting smashed by Hulk, while Hawkeye fought Iron Man. After Hawkeye dispatched Iron Man, he fired a knockout gas arrow at the Hulk, causing him to fall unconscious and revert to Banner.

Batman defeated the Hulk during their weird crossover back in the mid-70s. Batman through a gas grenade at the Hulk, then kicked him the solar plexus (!!!) to cause Hulk to inhale the gas deeply. Hulk fell unconscious.

Havok defeated the Hulk in Incredible Hulk #150. This was a pretty impressive win in that it happened in Hulk’s own comic. Havok doesn’t even appear on the cover, possibly because he was embarrassed to be seen in public in that eggbeater mask.

Looks like Hulk isn’t all powerfull afterall. With lame losses like that… Superman has every chance of winning. I mean… does anyone think Ironman could even scratch superman?

[/quote]

You…bastard. Ok Im gonna indulge you.

First off 100% of those victories were with a Hulk who still was fused with Banner. Ever since the separation there has been NO cap to Hulks strength. If they were to write those battles now they would have to come up with MUCH different ways of beating the Hulk because most of those were knockout gas related, and now it’s said he can hold his breath for an incalculable amount of time.

As far as Iron Man is concerned he is equivalent to Batman with his cunning and tech knowledge and we ALL know bats has owned Superman’s ass countless times. So Ironman would just make a Kryptonite suit or a a Red Sun ray suit or some shit like that and smack Superman around.

[/quote]

We’ll that is Superman’s achilles heel. Betty White can beat the piss out of Superman if she has Krytponite. So that isn’t saying anything. I could say Superman should vaporize Banner with his heat vision before he even has a chance to change into the hulk. But that is a copout. I know you spoke of the seperated hulk but you get my point. I think Superman would win blow for blow because he has a lot more powers than the hulk besides just the super strength.

Superman could toss the hulk into the sun. If the hulk tossed superman, he would just fly back. Then we could test that “incalcuable breath holding ability” while he is being crushed in the center of the suns gravity forever. The end.

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but then while hes getting crushed in the sun and getting those mad 3rd degree burns he’d just get really really angry… Probably pick up the sun and thrown it as superman. Superman gets cancer and dies because the sun was just plastered across his face. Hulk wins…

All you have to do is think logically for two seconds and you see how hulk wins. Hulk win all.
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lol! ha ha ha. I think the whole “angrier he gets the stronger he gets” is a copout. I mean there must be a limit to how angry he can get. I think Superman would win even if he analy raped Betty Ross right in front of the hulk with the batmobile. Then Superman would just say…

U mad?

Top 5, Marvel & DC (with Boom! Studios integrated)

  1. Franklin Richards, no inhibitor
  2. Current Canon Superman*
  3. Current Canon Silver Surfer
  4. Current Canon Green Hulk
  5. Current Canon Red Hulk [possible tie w/above]

*The Plutonian, from Incorruptible, can move in and out of black holes when in the middle of a delusion, completely cut-off from outside stimuli. There is apparently no Kryptonite analogue in his world, and the only material implied to be able to hurt him is the wax of a magic candle created specifically as a curse on him. Also, possibly a material from an alien world may be something of a problem, but I might be reading more into the two frames it was shown in than was intended.

The Plutonian, for the record, is Superman if he grew up with bad parents.

[quote]Vash wrote:
Top 5, Marvel & DC (with Boom! Studios integrated)

  1. Franklin Richards, no inhibitor
  2. Current Canon Superman*
  3. Current Canon Silver Surfer
  4. Current Canon Green Hulk
  5. Current Canon Red Hulk [possible tie w/above]

*The Plutonian, from Incorruptible, can move in and out of black holes when in the middle of a delusion, completely cut-off from outside stimuli. There is apparently no Kryptonite analogue in his world, and the only material implied to be able to hurt him is the wax of a magic candle created specifically as a curse on him. Also, possibly a material from an alien world may be something of a problem, but I might be reading more into the two frames it was shown in than was intended.

The Plutonian, for the record, is Superman if he grew up with bad parents.[/quote]

Not you too Vash! I thought we were cool after all those beatings I handed you in Street Fighter IV?

[quote]Pootie Tang wrote:

[quote]Vash wrote:
Top 5, Marvel & DC (with Boom! Studios integrated)

  1. Franklin Richards, no inhibitor
  2. Current Canon Superman*
  3. Current Canon Silver Surfer
  4. Current Canon Green Hulk
  5. Current Canon Red Hulk [possible tie w/above]

*The Plutonian, from Incorruptible, can move in and out of black holes when in the middle of a delusion, completely cut-off from outside stimuli. There is apparently no Kryptonite analogue in his world, and the only material implied to be able to hurt him is the wax of a magic candle created specifically as a curse on him. Also, possibly a material from an alien world may be something of a problem, but I might be reading more into the two frames it was shown in than was intended.

The Plutonian, for the record, is Superman if he grew up with bad parents.[/quote]

Not you too Vash! I thought we were cool after all those beatings I handed you in Street Fighter IV?[/quote]

If the question were “strongest,” then Green Hulk would top the list.

But most powerful implies everything they can do. At least, Superman is as strong physically as the Hulk. But he’s close to the same speed as Flash, heals as quickly as the Hulk, has multiple offensive eye beams, his freezing breath, and martial arts training from Wildcat, Batman, the Karate Kid Val Ammor, and is the end product of generations of genetic engineering and selective breeding.

I hate to say it, but the only ones here that are right are the ones that say Superman wins. No I don’t, I love to say it!

“Oh but Batman…” Fuck Batman. It takes him a lot of thinking, planning, and toys/outside resources to win a fight against a super being. Superman’s smarter; he beat Lex Luthor at chess.

“Oh but the Hulk…” The Hulk sucks. He’s every nerdy school boy’s (including mine) wish. As stated, he’s a global threat, not a galactic or universal one. And he got all emo over a broad. Also as stated, he was brought down be a being less poewrful that Big Blue.

“Well, what about Iron Man?” Same as Batboy. Without his toys, he’s nothing. Superman would use his heat vision to slice the suit off, and be nice enough to not even harm the scared little Tony Stark inside.

And don’t even bring up Mighty Mouse. Of course Superman wins, Mighty Mouse is just a cartoon.

I am a little biased here. I’ve stated my man-crush on Superman on more than one occasion. I also have a big Superman logo tattooed on my forearm. How can you not love the guy? He’s like Jesus with heat vision.


Lobo is the baddest bastich of all. destroyed his home planet for a jr high science project and is still pissed that he didn’t get a grade for it. hunts down Superman just to have someone to fight with. is pretty much immortal because he’s been kicked out of and banned from Heaven and Hell. can regenerate his body from a pool of his own blood. doesn’t need to breath in space. is a bounty hunter and the greatest tracker in the universe. he has a sense of smell that allows him to track objects between solar systems, as well as a separate tracking ability enabling him to track an individual across galactic distances. genius level intellect in matters of destruction and violence. likes to smoke cigars. rides a space chopper and has a pet bulldog. favorite weapon is a chain he wears around his arm with a gutting hook on it.

I’m gonna get nerdy, but yes Superman is THE man… but a more powerful version of him would be villains Ultraman or Cyborg Superman, because they’re uninhibited, no restriction or moral calms about hurting/killing, and Kryptonite actually makes Ultraman stronger. Beubye Sups!