Michael Jackson. No ones been there yet?
Pink Floyd isn’t overrated.
Neither is Rush. How can they be overrated?
Michael Jackson. No ones been there yet?
Pink Floyd isn’t overrated.
Neither is Rush. How can they be overrated?
If we’re talking about “music” as in “me sitting in my room listening to music”, I’d include Pink Floyd (even though I do like their albums) along with lots of prog rock/prog metal (I fail to see the genius in playing the same notes, just changing the tempo, for 15 minutes and call it “a song”) and punk/grunge bands. Now, if we’re talking about “music” including shows, culture, society, etc it’s a completely different story: Pink Floyd did some of the greatest gigs ever, punks/grunges influenced many great bands and so on.
[quote]Lordcliff wrote:
Michael Jackson. No ones been there yet?
Pink Floyd isn’t overrated.
Neither is Rush. How can they be overrated? [/quote]
Rush got snubbed again this year by the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
Even if you completely hate Rush, it is difficult to construct an argument as to why they don’t belong in the RRHOF. It’s bordering on ridiculous now. Deep Purple is another band that comes to mind in this regard…
P-PUF-DID-DA-DIDDY. Most over rated Person in Music…Glad he is out of music and into what he is GREAT at…Producing himself
[quote]four60 wrote:
P-PUF-DID-DA-DIDDY. Most over rated Person in Music…Glad he is out of music and into what he is GREAT at…Producing himself[/quote]
Couldn’t have said it better myself.
I can fill up a thread about how overrated this one guy is.
VAN HALEN!
How could anybody be more overrated than that? Totally generic crap songs. Back in the 90’s when I was reading them, all the guitar magazines would go on about how Eddie Van Halen was the greatest guitarist of all time. WTF? He’s a technician, nothing more.
Nirvana. Yes, I was 15-18 at the time. They were just a lucky band that made it big. In May of '94, however, I was mistaken by a group of schoolgirls in Toledo for Kurt Cobain. Guess word hadn’t gotten there yet.
Also, I don’t care for Rush, but so many musicians assure me they’re amazing, I must be missing something.
What’s this BS about Zeppelin being overrated? Those fuckers were awesome, shut yo mouths about that shit.
The Stones aren’t overrated, everyone recognises them as a band that made a bunch of classics early on then lost a step in the 80’s.
My list:
Nirvana: I like a couple of their songs, Teen Spirit not included. The lyrics are generally great, but their style eludes me.
Beatles: A lot of duds in their song list, but still, lots of classics.
Oasis: I’m not sure they belong here. They’re not as great of a band as Zep, Beatles etc, but they do have a bunch of really good songs. Their last couple of albums haven’t been my cup o’ tay. I went to a concert of theirs two years back, and while the songs of their latest album didn’t really resonate with the audience, the stuff from the first three were literally sing alongs.
The Offspring: I think they suck.
Daft Punk: Yeah, not all that.
U2: I got into them as a kid with Beautiful day. I was also into Limp Bizkit and Sum41 at the time. U2 blows.
Foo Fighters: A lot of duds. Last album sucks. Learn to fly and Next year are beautiful songs though.
Green day: Should have stuck to making punk-lite records.
Cold play: Yellow’s enjoyable, everything else is horrible.
Lil Wayne: I know he’s generally considered to suck by anyone who cares, but seriously, this dude make’s shit up to rhyme.
Ghostface Killah: Ex. The Champ is pretty fucking awesome until you read the lyrics. I LOL’ed, then I serious’ed.
Nickelback for sure. Terrible, just terrible.
[quote]nrt wrote:
Back in the 90’s when I was reading them, all the guitar magazines would go on about how Eddie Van Halen was the greatest guitarist of all time. WTF? He’s a technician, nothing more.
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Oh, c’mon-- the guy who CHANGED the way electric guitar was played?
Greatest guitar player of all time? Maybe not.
Most influential? Quite likely. Maybe 2nd only to Hendrix. Maybe.
I can understand Van Halen (the band) as being overrated for some people. Eddie Van Halen the guitarist, absolutely not.
That Taio Cruz Dynamite song.
I find music like this intellectually insulting. Writers crank this mindlessn shit out and expect us to embrace it…and society does…BIG FUCKING SURPRISE!!!
The reason the pop artists can release a new album each year is the total lack of thought, passion, quality, and TALENT, but people go fucking nuts over it. Compare that to metal bands such as Behemoth, Belphegor, or Dimmu Borgir (Dimmu’s new album features over 100 musicians). Or Behemoth, for instance, traveled around the world to get inspiration for the album, The Apostasy, which includes lyrics in English and Latin and Nergal recorded the chanting of actual monks to provide atmosphere. If only the pop scene could fathom this kind of creativity and work ethic…
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
I’m still waiting on a retort for ID or LD on the lyrics. They literally spark deep philosophical debate. They are as deep as they come, my only friend.
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What’s to retort? My appreciation of poetry spans the continuum. But the stuff I considered “deep” at 17 now seems obvious at 47. I won’t argue against your taste or perception.
Some artists work wonderful subjects into their compositions, yet execute them poorly. Some artists have such stylish bravura, yet fail to express anything worth looking at.
I like the Doors. I like Jim Morrison. But finding depth in his words isn’t even close to any of the reasons I like the Doors.
To be over-rated a large portion of people need to insist these guys be good in the first place, that they have a place in history.
Elvis, for example, is over-rated. His early stuff was good, but was nothing new, it was just new to his audience, and new to seeing a white-guy play it.
Nickleback or Rush, or most of the crap people have mentioned, are not considered “greats” or “game changers” in the music/culture world.
The Offspring? I liked them when I was ten, but I haven’t heard anyone saying they are one of the greatest bands of all time.
This is most overrated, not shittiest, bands.
[quote]SteelyD wrote:
[quote]nrt wrote:
Back in the 90’s when I was reading them, all the guitar magazines would go on about how Eddie Van Halen was the greatest guitarist of all time. WTF? He’s a technician, nothing more.
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Oh, c’mon-- the guy who CHANGED the way electric guitar was played?
Greatest guitar player of all time? Maybe not.
Most influential? Quite likely. Maybe 2nd only to Hendrix. Maybe.
I can understand Van Halen (the band) as being overrated for some people. Eddie Van Halen the guitarist, absolutely not.
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Santana was the leading revolutionist for the electric guitar. Him and Hendrix along with Chuck Berry are much more influential than Van Halen.
Nickleback
Rhianna
Green day
Eminem
The beatles
Pretty much the same stuff that’s been said.
I also despise shit like Avenge Sevenfold, just a bunch of emo’s crying loud.
Anyone listing The Beatles, Prince, The Stones, Tupac or The Doors WTF!!
Yeah greatest hits albums consist of middle of the road pop shite, but LISTEN TO THE ALBUMS.
The White Album, LA Woman, Purple Rain, R U Still Down…
Bob Marley is the greatest ever, Elvis is the most over rated IMO although hes leagues above most of todays manufactured, quick buck rubbish…oh and Cliff Richard, what a dick!
But the absolute worst ever has got to be SPANDAU BALLET, dont even care if I spelt it wrong id rather be eaten by a shark than listen to that shite.
[quote]domsGOOD wrote:
…oh and Cliff Richard, what a dick!
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LOL! Almost no one here in the states can even name one hit that guy has had. Only in the UK was he a sensation.
It’s amazing what music we can like if we listen to it at the right times in our lives.
You could listen to almost anything when you’re driving in your car or your buddy’s car when you’re 17 looking for girls and you’ll likely have some fond memories of it now.
Christ…I would go to the bar or club whatever in 1992 and hear that “What is Love?” song like from that Night at the Roxbury movie ( which of course came out later). I hear it now and it takes me back to those days. I didn’t even like the song back then!
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
I’m still waiting on a retort for ID or LD on the lyrics. They literally spark deep philosophical debate. They are as deep as they come, my only friend.
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What’s to retort? My appreciation of poetry spans the continuum. But the stuff I considered “deep” at 17 now seems obvious at 47. I won’t argue against your taste or perception.
Some artists work wonderful subjects into their compositions, yet execute them poorly. Some artists have such stylish bravura, yet fail to express anything worth looking at.
I like the Doors. I like Jim Morrison. But finding depth in his words isn’t even close to any of the reasons I like the Doors. [/quote]
i dont care if you find depth in them or not, point is, they are deep. “the end” is a profound comentary on the existential meaning of life and death. the point is, they are deep. the point is you should go do some reading on the meanings of his lyrics and poetry. i think you might find new interest in the doors if you did.
you guys are essentially saying shakespear wrote crappy plays because they arent easy to read.
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i dont care if you find depth in them or not, point is, they are deep. “the end” is a profound comentary on the existential meaning of life and death. the point is, they are deep. the point is you should go do some reading on the meanings of his lyrics and poetry. i think you might find new interest in the doors if you did.
you guys are essentially saying shakespear wrote crappy plays because they arent easy to read.[/quote]
Isn’t “depth” in poetry or music subjective? The intent and thought of the artist is there in the subject matter but whether it appeals to you or me or anyone else on some deep emotional/spiritual/philosophical level is an individual thing IMO. No art affects everyone in the same way, and what you find profound may not strike another individual so starkly.
In ten years, YOU may not even find the same depth. It is an expression of the artist. Enjoy it if you like it and if you don’t, I doubt Morrison gives a shit. He would most likely tell you that being deep or making everyone like his stuff was not the point of the writing and performance.