[quote]doogie wrote:
[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:
But he’s only made like 5 movies. [/quote]
Terrence Malick has only made 5 films. Can you argue he’s overrated?[/quote]
No one is going around saying Terrence Malick is one of the best film makers of our generation, unlike Tarantino.
[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:
[quote]doogie wrote:
[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:
But he’s only made like 5 movies. [/quote]
Terrence Malick has only made 5 films. Can you argue he’s overrated?[/quote]
No one is going around saying Terrence Malick is one of the best film makers of our generation, unlike Tarantino.[/quote]
You hang around with the wrong people. I’ve never talked movies with anyone who’d put Tarantino (who I like a lot) in the same class as Malick.
Orson Welles - 2 good films - Citizen Kane and Touch of Evil, and 1/2 a good film - The Lady from Shanghai. In addition, several decades of shit that he couldn’t even finish.
Otto Preminger post-1962
Billy Wilder post-1954 - Comedy and Billy Wilder don’t mix.
Roman Polanski - One good film - ‘The Tenant’ and loads of boring arty bullshit.
Alfred Hitchcock after The Birds. Okay so Marnie and Frenzy were Okay. But Topaz? Torn Curtain?
Most UNDERRATED directors?
Budd Boetticher
Anthony Mann
Andre de Toth
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I agree with most of that, but I like Hitchcock just because my mother used to watch them non-stop when I was a child and because of the weird camera angles.
[quote]Simon Adebisi wrote:
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I agree with most of that, but I like Hitchcock just because my mother used to watch them non-stop when I was a child and because of the weird camera angles.[/quote]
I love Hitchcock. I just think his films after The Birds were pretty much crap. Frenzy had some lovely moments though…lovely…lovely…lovely!
James Cameron as a visual effects director = there aren’t too many better.
James Cameron as a filmmaker = over-rated fail.
Completely agree with sexmachines estimation of Polanski and would add Lynch for the same reasons.
Yes eraser head is a surreal piece of abstrct film making genius, but he got up himself and started throwing pretentious shit up at the screen hoping it would stick and calling it art.
Warren Beatty…what an arse, he starred in all the films he directed.
Gus Van Sant.
Good will hunting had a great screenplay…which is why it won best original screenplay…nothing to do with him, even he couldn’t fuck that up.
But I can never forgive him for completely re-filming Psycho shot by shot, fuckin’ waste of time.
Ridley scott is one of my fav’s, Blade runner is still one of my all time favourite sci fi flicks.
A bit of a flop when it first hit cinemas…but I absolutely loved it
As far as Guillermo is concerned I have to admit I really, really liked Pan’s Lab.
The thing I’ve found is that once you look at a director’s total output, they’ve made a lot of crap films. This is pretty much independent of any director you choose. Sure, there’ll be anomalies like Ingmar Bergman, but for everyone else, the trick to immortality seems to be making people remember your best and forget the rest.
[quote]Simon Adebisi wrote:
For the record, M. Night Shyamalan and Michael Bay should not even be in this thread due to the fact that EVERYONE knows their careers are not to be taken seriously.
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QFT
[quote]Cheeky_Kea wrote:
James Cameron as a visual effects director = there aren’t too many better.
James Cameron as a filmmaker = over-rated fail.
Completely agree with sexmachines estimation of Polanski and would add Lynch for the same reasons.
Yes eraser head is a surreal piece of abstrct film making genius, but he got up himself and started throwing pretentious shit up at the screen hoping it would stick and calling it art.
Warren Beatty…what an arse, he starred in all the films he directed.
Gus Van Sant.
Good will hunting had a great screenplay…which is why it won best original screenplay…nothing to do with him, even he couldn’t fuck that up.
But I can never forgive him for completely re-filming Psycho shot by shot, fuckin’ waste of time.
Ridley scott is one of my fav’s, Blade runner is still one of my all time favourite sci fi flicks.
A bit of a flop when it first hit cinemas…but I absolutely loved it
As far as Guillermo is concerned I have to admit I really, really liked Pan’s Lab. [/quote]
<—curious as to your thoughts on Scorsese
[quote]jskrabac wrote:
[quote]Cheeky_Kea wrote:
James Cameron as a visual effects director = there aren’t too many better.
James Cameron as a filmmaker = over-rated fail.
Completely agree with sexmachines estimation of Polanski and would add Lynch for the same reasons.
Yes eraser head is a surreal piece of abstrct film making genius, but he got up himself and started throwing pretentious shit up at the screen hoping it would stick and calling it art.
Warren Beatty…what an arse, he starred in all the films he directed.
Gus Van Sant.
Good will hunting had a great screenplay…which is why it won best original screenplay…nothing to do with him, even he couldn’t fuck that up.
But I can never forgive him for completely re-filming Psycho shot by shot, fuckin’ waste of time.
Ridley scott is one of my fav’s, Blade runner is still one of my all time favourite sci fi flicks.
A bit of a flop when it first hit cinemas…but I absolutely loved it
As far as Guillermo is concerned I have to admit I really, really liked Pan’s Lab. [/quote]
<—curious as to your thoughts on Scorsese[/quote]
That is a hard one as I have a love/hate thing for Scorcese.
Not too many do a better gangster flick…but he has made so many of them.(and good fellas and casino were good films but pretty interchangeble)
Some of his films are amongst my favourites though.
A couple of his docos were very enetertaining little movies (the last waltz, shine a light, no direction home)
I honestly don’t think he did as good a job with the departed as he could have (got an oscar though so what do I know?) the HK original had alot more depth.
Gangs of NY was a bit meh as well, although I thought Lewis was brilliant.
The Last Temptation of Christ…I think because I loved the book so much the film was a disapointment for me.
But still, raging bull and taxi are classics.
Thought the king of comedy was a good little movie too.
I suppose at the end of the day, one thing I can say about the man is that some of his “meh” movies are still better than some others triumphs.
Steven Spielberg… never rated him…!
[quote]Cheeky_Kea wrote:
Not too many do a better gangster flick…but he has made so many of them.(and good fellas and casino were good films but pretty interchangeble)
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Not really.
He’s made about four by my count.
Mean Streets, Goodfellas, Casino and The Departed.
Mean Streets doesn’t even count to me though, because it was more about a troublesome friendship than the gangsters they associated with.
So three full on gangster movies.
Two if you count Goodfellas and Casino as the same movie, which as you said, they practically were.
[quote]Simon Adebisi wrote:
[quote]Cheeky_Kea wrote:
Not too many do a better gangster flick…but he has made so many of them.(and good fellas and casino were good films but pretty interchangeble)
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Not really.
He’s made about four by my count.
Mean Streets, Goodfellas, Casino and The Departed.
Mean Streets doesn’t even count to me though, because it was more about a troublesome friendship than the gangsters they associated with.
So three full on gangster movies.
Two if you count Goodfellas and Casino as the same movie, which as you said, they practically were.[/quote]
Fair enough.
I guess I meant his preocuppation with crime and violence (not that there is anything wrong with that) and not specifically mafioso or gangs and I should have said as much.
You did forget gangs of New York though (the clue is in the title)
I hear he is doing another movie with De niro, Pacino and Pesci called “the irisman” about Frank “the Irishman” Sheeran who claims he killed Jimmy Hoffa and Joe Gallo in his capacity as a mob hitman, so we can add that to the list when it comes out.
He is of course much more diverse than just this type of movie though so your point is taken.
But I did mention his other stuff.
Polanski. Polanski. I haven’t read this whole thread but not sure if people understand the term overrated. To me Polanski has to be the winner by a mile. Spoken about breathlessly by every pseudo film intellectual but when you get down to it his films are shit. Throw into the mix the fact that he is a pedophile who fled the country like the egotistical coward he is, then no one else can compare.
The Pianist was shit. Chinatown was good. But only good.
IF I saw Polanski in the street I would probably stab him in the face then stand over him and ask where his celebrity sycophants who are always so quick to jump to his defence are now.
So yeah. Polanski.
[quote]Cheeky_Kea wrote:
[quote]Simon Adebisi wrote:
[quote]Cheeky_Kea wrote:
Not too many do a better gangster flick…but he has made so many of them.(and good fellas and casino were good films but pretty interchangeble)
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Not really.
He’s made about four by my count.
Mean Streets, Goodfellas, Casino and The Departed.
Mean Streets doesn’t even count to me though, because it was more about a troublesome friendship than the gangsters they associated with.
So three full on gangster movies.
Two if you count Goodfellas and Casino as the same movie, which as you said, they practically were.[/quote]
Fair enough.
I guess I meant his preocuppation with crime and violence (not that there is anything wrong with that) and not specifically mafioso or gangs and I should have said as much.
You did forget gangs of New York though (the clue is in the title)
I hear he is doing another movie with De niro, Pacino and Pesci called “the irisman” about Frank “the Irishman” Sheeran who claims he killed Jimmy Hoffa and Joe Gallo in his capacity as a mob hitman, so we can add that to the list when it comes out.
He is of course much more diverse than just this type of movie though so your point is taken.
But I did mention his other stuff.
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Indeed.
I took note of that and was happy that you mentioned The King of Comedy.
That movie is wonderful.
[quote]GCF wrote:
Polanski. Polanski. I haven’t read this whole thread but not sure if people understand the term overrated. To me Polanski has to be the winner by a mile. Spoken about breathlessly by every pseudo film intellectual but when you get down to it his films are shit. Throw into the mix the fact that he is a pedophile who fled the country like the egotistical coward he is, then no one else can compare.
The Pianist was shit. Chinatown was good. But only good.
IF I saw Polanski in the street I would probably stab him in the face then stand over him and ask where his celebrity sycophants who are always so quick to jump to his defence are now.
So yeah. Polanski.[/quote]
ORLY?
Wow this thread is depressing, people bashing Tarantino, Scorsese, Guillermo and Polanski.
What the fuck is wrong with you people.
Next well see a post about how Spielberg is overrated LOL.
