It’s not a movie, it’s a tv show where brides pick out wedding dresses. I’m into dress design
I agree
lol 
they probably hadn’t seen the wolf of Wall Street. Mum saw black swan (she gave me the dvd) but I doubt she understood it
Ahh yes, I was thinking of 27 Dresses - which I’ve never seen but, much like @unreal24278 , I know the plot, the lead actors/actresses in the film, etc.
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A large portion of the film did revolve around the sexless nerds chasing girls.
They even resort to voyeurism just to get a peep.
It’s funny, it’s not to be taken seriously. But the point is valid
I do not quite understand why rape is so psychologically traumatic
ie why it’s worse than getting mugged, robbed or otherwise beaten up in a non- sexual way.
I definitely don’t think it’s okay to rape or get raped, but I am similarly against robbing
Note: My inability to intuitively understand these “common sense” things is why I’m studying behavioural science.
I’m not saying that rape is not heinous
I also understand the physical consequences. The question is: Why would rape be more heinous than a mugging when injuries are comparable.
Could you answer in my log?
And in reality, the jocks were actually the heroes.
Because they aren’t comparable. Would you say child molestation, which is a form of rape, is comparable to mugging?
I’ve never said women are being stifled in developed countries. I’m simply making the point that more women joining the talent pool would be beneficial and have only addressed arguments against this.
But since you brought up media portrayals of women:
And note that I made that post WEEKS before Tarantino said something similar on Rogan’s podcast. I had never heard him mention anything like these in previous interviews I’ve watched. People who analyse movies without any biases because they have nothing better to do will easily see these trends:
This shit happens in waves, just like how I describe other things in the following part of this post.
And I remember just as many “damsels in distress” movies. I’ve also watched lots of female exploitation movies but for want of fairness, I’m not going to use them as a counter argument as they weren’t part of popular culture.
Wes Craven’s Last House on the Left somehow managed to be both an exploitation and an anti-female exploitation movie though lol.
Also, objectification isn’t “worshipping women”.
Sluts like Paris and Nicole were shitty influences. The fact that modern day feminists are saying Cardi B and the like are examples of “female empowerment” is absurd. But I admittedly do enjoy objectifying them.
I don’t see what this has to do with my point about women and career opportunities. Almost every blues song is about being treated badly by women. Rap largely involves objectification of them.
A pretty hilarious blues one:
I gave you seven children , and now you want to give them back .
When Led Zep weren’t singing about Hobbits and Mordor, it was always about “evil women”.
Lots of people talkin’
Few of them know
Soul of a woman was created below…
Dazed and Confused
Never watched it so I can’t comment. Ally McBeal was pretty good.
It’s been a gradual process. This didn’t happen overnight, did it? And women have also been fucked up shitheads like Madoff and the like, which is why I’ve been saying the differences between sexes at the higher levels may exist but they really aren’t that big.
I don’t really know, nor care what the OP’s friend was going on about. Maybe he just thinks leadership in society should adopt more “feminine” traits. Maybe he just wanted to get laid lol.
We’ve already gone beyond the context of the original post anyway.
As have I. I only commented on, and said negative things about the INCEL MOVEMENT. I tend to look at and judge people as individuals. These fuckwits chose to become a collective so I have to criticize them as one lol.
First of all. all this change happened over decades. Even 3rd World nations are gradually becoming more progressive. This progressions has played out exactly like how I explained things generally do earlier:
Second, this shit isn’t just limited to feminists of the looney variety. Hypermasculinity also follows a similar pattern but the trend seems to be going down unless you live in Myanmar.
To give you an example of something recent but pretty hilarious in a pretty moderate country:
For examples over a longer time frame in which ultra-right wing shit peaked HARD:
Indonesia:
In 2001, a female was elected president in their 2nd election in history.
Why was this only it’s second election? Because, like lots of other S.E Asian countries, it was previously a quasi-military dictatorship. It took a bigass financial crisis where even dipshits like Soros were happily shorting the Thai baht and Malaysian ringgit bigtime and horrific effects people’s livelihoods to end it.
And they allowed shit like this to happen:
Indonesia is a Muslim country and there were way more conservative back then. Ultra-right wing shit just piled up so much they decided to elect a woman to balance it all. She sucked. But the alternative sucked more.
Look how fucked up they still are today. The point is women are afforded primary and secondary education but they generally aren’t brought up to aspire to be much more than housewives, which is why there is a smaller talent pool for potential leaders. Education is required because a career is required to support their families until they get married.
And since their economy sucks so hard, both couple end up having to work. And what happens to SOME women when their husbands suck and they have kids and the woman doesn’t have an education? They have to go overseas to be employed as maids. I have one. The regulations require such employees to be married so they’re less likely to fuck around and getting into relationships with men on their off days.
The Philippines:
At the same time, a second female president was elected in the Philippines. When both the Indonesian and Filipino presidents met, they hugged for the cameras and declared themselves “sisters”.
It was hilarious. Both sucked.
What happened in the Philippines next?
But what happened in the Philippines which led to the first female president being elected in the first place?
Shit finally got real when this happened:
A snap election was then held and this woman won:
Marcos ran away. Aquino was pretty good.
People have very short memories.
SOME women in the Philippines also go overseas to work as maids but they’re a lot more expensive.
Yes! Thank you! Because it prompted me to realize that mostly what I’m arguing against in here with personal and work anecdotes is the collectivization of women. WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? Not me nor anyone I know. Not in progressive New England, not in conservative Texas. Not the teens I’ve worked with, not the adults.
I’ve done a couple of intakes on man-hating women, and they’ve never stayed with me for more than two sessions. My “people are people, some good some bad” doesn’t sit well with them. They’re angry, and generalizing their experience onto all others. I don’t think I do that. I know shitty men and shitty women, ambitious versions of both as well as weak, lazy, manipulative, submissive, etc versions of both. You cannot make a collective of half the population. It’s too dependent on community and family characteristics, as well as, of course, personal characteristics.
Meanwhile, there’s been a scratching noise, and I think it’s a mouse in the walls again (hopefully in the walls). Husband returns from California later this morning…thank God. Let me state very clearly for the record that I happily follow his lead in these matters, and like…was it @zecarlo who removes spiders? Like whoever that was I am happy to consider my husband the boss until further notice.
(I would take care of it myself, but the time I thought I heard a rat in the basement and thought I might have to start shooting at the bedroom floor, he became upset about the fuel tank placement relative to my proposed gunshots. So I defer to keep him happy because of how nice I am.)
I know Pat’s not here, and I don’t expect him to respond, but this upsets me and pride demands that I address it. What my husband wanted to offer was me. He wanted to share me. It stared as “let’s fantasize,” then became “really?” (fuck no) then became outright requests. The last time he brought it up I clarified that this would never happen, and that even if I were willing, my belief that it would actually satisfy him for more than five minutes was zero. I also know of myself that if I become physically intimate with someone, odds are good that I will fancy myself falling in love. I’m attachment-driven. His response was “So, what, I just accept that I can never be happy?” Yeah, like I’ve had to as someone loyal to this sham of a marriage. He wasn’t a stud, he was a guy with ED who kept looking for outside solutions. After reading about low T on here I urged him to get tested, and he was prescribed Androgel, but didn’t bother with it for very long. Same thing antidepressants. He was not a model of male success, though at one time, before his demons sabotaged him, he was financially successful because he’s a very hard worker. He was also a very involved father, there are definitely positives. He doesn’t match the alpha narrative, though.
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These kill libido for the most part. One reason why I haven’t tried them despite needing them.
Yeah, there was no libido to kill. Target symptoms were angry outbursts and self-pity.
But yes, it is a possible side effect. Not everyone experiences it, though.
i experienced the after about 3 weeks on SSRI’s, another week and it went away. Libido came back stronger than before I went on the drug. Worked out okay for me.
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He wasn’t fat. Sedentary? Fucked up sleep? Shitty diet? Don’t see why he wouldn’t address these first instead of trying to share, lol. If anything, that would kill my libido.
Yeah, I don’t know. The low T would have been my target, but he was just…passive? Too depressed? His externalization of happiness and unhappiness are toxic. I don’t wish him ill, but I do feel relieved that he continues to be unhappy and uncoupled while I enjoy a full and happy life with a man who is satisfied with himself and with me, sexually and otherwise.
I’m just skimming through this thread. Conversations about this topic get crazy, jeez.
This made me laugh really hard.
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His problem is that he doesn’t know anything about the world. The idea your husband must have had money in order for you to be a stay at home mom is ignorant. My mother didn’t work and we weren’t rich. Second, the idea that other women were only interested because of money, whether he had it or not, gives you an idea of how pat thinks about women. They are essentially prostitutes.
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This describes me and half of my friend’s families. It’s very common.
This wasn’t pro women… BUT I spit on your grave arguably was. Not that either of these films are films that I’d ever recommend anyone to watch.
The original last house on the left (1972) was a very, very disturbing film that imo doesn’t have much in the way of artistic merit. For what it is, it’s not a bad film… It’s a nihilistic, pointless tale of violence, sadism and revenge. The cinematography consists of grainy, low definition film as to make the situation appear even more jarring, you sit back and think “wow… This really could have happened!” It’s a bit dated today, and the film has very little in the way or artistic merit but it was credited for creating two sub-genres genres of horror film.
It was the first mainstream release of its type in the US, granted quite a few foreign Giallo films prior to 1972 were also quite graphic and exploitative, but they never made their way over to mainstream audiences in the US
Believe it or not… As graphic as the 1972 film was… Quite a bit was actually cut out. It’s not a film people watch because it’s a good movie. It’s a film people watch because they’ve heard it’s disgusting… And it is disgusting.
The remake was actually a decent film worthy of a watch if you’re okay with graphic violence. It’s toned down relative to the original.
Back in the day feminism in part about rallying against excessive objectification. Now female empowerment is promoted by… Doing exactly the opposite of that and encouraging objectification? WHAT!
Particularly her WAP video … It’s absolutely insane as to how one would think this equates to empowering women.
Cardi B is a horrendous role model, however I’d make the argument her content isn’t aimed towards kids. Her content is typically heavily restricted to that of late adolescents and adults. I’m fairly sure Cardi B was the one who drugged men unconscious, then stole from them #empowering!
Great film! There’s a spiritual sequel now, “everybody wants some”. Set in the 80s instead of the 70s.
I actually have seen this within the ultra, ultra orthodox neighbourhoods of Israel. I’ve also seen it to a minor degree in certain countries like Morocco. There are countries where serious inequalities exist, where undue restrictions are placed over women and/or potentially unrealistic expectations are expected of men, women or both
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