More Women in Power?

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I don’t think I’ve seen any marriage without one spouse being the dominant party. I know one couple in which the wife is the dominant one. They’re fine. I don’t really think about society as a whole when it comes to these matters since the dynamics of modern day relationships are pretty complex. The only opinion I have is that one should pick a partner that complements him/her - character wise, choice of lifestyle etc.

Some men want to be dominated and some women want to dominate. All power to them. I’m a pretty pragmatic person. If I didn’t have the good fortune of meeting my wife earlier in life, I might still be single today. I wouldn’t “settle” for someone who doesn’t suit me.

IME, a 50/50 split doesn’t really work out in the long term. I’ve said this before pretty long ago and I think it was kinda misinterpreted as me saying only the man should be the dominant one: Years later and after hearing more and more of the whining of friends who adopt such a mentality in a relationship (50/50), I’m thinking this is likely due to a constant need for power balance which leads to more conflict.

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wtf???

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Article 134 of the Uniform Code of Military Justuce

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And, as of two years ago: Adultery and fornication: Why are states rushing to get these outdated laws off the books? | Salon.com

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WOAH…

Maximum punishment:

Dishonourable discharge, forfeiture of all pay and allowances, and confinement for 1 year.

How much does confinement suck there?

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I don’t think single parent households have anything to do with generational declines in testosterone

Rather environmental toxins, sedentary lifestyles, poor sleep habits, medications etc factor in.

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Isn’t this a civil penalty in the secular jurisdictions that designate this a crime, not a criminal one? You’d be looking at a small fine

This is something that needs to be brought to discussion when referring to penalizing adultry. Sometimes adultery, sexual assault etc can be VERY difficult to prove.

Unless it can be proven behind reasonable doubt pertaining to sexual misconduct, the perpetrator shouldn’t be found guilty. Rape kits, substantial evidence of that person’s whereabouts + prior poor accounts of character, evidence caught on tape, numerous eyewitnesses etc.

Someone getting charged with misconduct on the basis of a single accusation isn’t fair. People lie, there are shitheels out there who get off on the misfortune of others. These people constitute a demographic that I consider to be a stain on our society. They find sadistic joy through inflicting pain and discomfort.

I’m not ENTIRELY opposed for adultery in certain contexts to alter divorce proceedings to be in favour of the victim. A toxic, barren marriage leading to one or both partners commiting adultery? Not a pressing issue, the couple should have gotten divorced provided they’ve taken measures to try preserve the relationship and this is the last resort. Some people fall out of love, it happens and there is no justification to trap two people in a sham of a marriage as doing so may also mediate a negative outcome for a child if present.

A normal, happy marriage; but one partner has no impulse control yet isn’t mentally ill and cheats? The victim deserves compensation, be it through accrual of assets, financial compensation, paying the child’s college tuition (provided this wouldn’t lead to financial ruin) etc. Not a criminal penalty that would ruin a life per se, but a hefty deterrent that can be applied on a case per case basis.

Then again, I still don’t quite agree with it as it entails excess government regulation. I don’t quite think marriage ought to be a commodity the government has a say in.

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I understand.

However I also think there is a good deal of personalization in discussion of the OP, which is the question of more women in power.

For discussions like this, I have seen in this thread and discussions elsewhere, even in real life, that some mention that men who oppose matriarchy—and I refer to matriarchy versus patriarchy because realistically there’s no in-between if both genders have significant presence in politics, education, and media—likely feel they’re owed something, are likely misogynistic, or “can’t get laid”.

Whether a man loves or hates women, whether he has a woman or not, has nothing intellectually to do with the topic, nor does it mean that if he opposes matriarchy that he wants to mistreat, sequester, or not allow them to work at all!

For example, I’ve shared my thoughts here, have a wife, work with nearly all women, have worked as a preceptor for only female students so far (all of whom have given me good reviews and/or gifts), and spend much time with my my mom and mother-in-law. Yet this appreciation, love, and respect still has nothing to do with the question of the OP.

So if some guy says, “I don’t see this working well,” a reply of, “what are you, an incel? Do you think you’re owed something? Is something wrong with you?” Is inapplicable.

I’m not saying this about you and I think you’re a polite guy. I’m mentioning the personalization of the subject.

Then as I said before, some people have the notion that this is all a matter of task completion, duties, and IQ. As you’ve mentioned, we can mine for competence amongst both genders, which we already do.

While that might be true for something like nursing, it is not the case for both men and women who go into law, psychology, media, advertising, politics, the academy, and anything else that has to do with the manipulation and influence of others! Many people, maybe most who go into these fields, have an agenda, which is natural considering ambitious people have agendas, for good or bad. And some people have taken notice and experienced these agendas.

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That’s an interesting question, and one I’ve been mulling since I saw it yesterday evening. I would say that in my marriage whoever feels something most deeply will win. So we don’t live on extremely rugged land because I finally convinced him that if we did and something happened to him (even a broken leg), I’d immediately be in an emergency. Even of he was fine, but working out of town, which he does 2/3 of the time, I’d be trapped at the first big snow. So I won. It still comes up, though. We’ll eventually have a cabin, or something, at the top of his mountain, and maybe over time it’ll turn into something more (retirement). But for now, no.

We’re both pretty strong-willed and territorial as well as being know-it-alls, but we’re also both generally very good-natured, and I don’t think either of us is willing to really displease the other without it being very important. I was initially going to say that he wins if he digs in, but then started thinking of times I did. So I don’t know, honestly. I guess I would say that he questions my proposals more than I question his. So I guess…he leads and I follow, but only if I want to. We each have areas of general command - his is the house in terms of systems, mine is the interior. He rules the outdoor portion of the homestead, though I have say. We’re very aligned financially, regarding sex, and concerning our blended family, so those are never an issue, happily. He out earns me, so if he wants to spend, I’m an easy “sure.” I know he’ll never do something stupid.

I let my ex-husband lead in many arenas and deeply regretted it. In other cases I topped from the bottom. It just all sucked.

This made me laugh. I have to get ready for work, but plan to come back to this and engage fiercely myself.

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I have a similar perspective to you. My wife and I both discuss large decisions but, she wants me to lead the house in most matters. I take her opinion into account and more often than not, she is right when I think things through.

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The problem I have is that it’s like being at a cookout and being offered hot dogs or hamburgers, and wanting both, but being forced to choose. And then once you say “okay, burger, I guess” being told that you hate all hot dogs, or think burgers are superior and want to take over the entire cookout world.

Both is a valid choice. You keep making it one or the other. Why can’t their be a dual-iarchy? (Is there a word for that?)

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We can’t have both because of what I wrote: ambitious, decision-making, and influential people have an agenda and all who go into ruling over people impose their wills on others, for good or bad. All want to shape the world how they see fit. Women in political power (and the men around them) have shaped things in a certain fashion and continue to do so. So as I’ve said, this isn’t just a matter of mining for competence and talent. It’s a matter of what people do with competence and talent.

I’m not saying you’ll say this but I’m just putting this out there as an “inb4” thing: “Whatcha worried about bro? Are you intimidated by strong women?”

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I will posit that this is how we are designed. Although it seems biologically evident to me from simple observation historically and in the overwhelming number of cultures spread across the world, l personally adhere to the Christian instruction of -

22 Wives, submit to your own husbands, as to the Lord.
25 Husbands, love your wives, as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her,*.

When fully followed, these two bring harmony in an increasingly discordant world.

And to the point of the OP, l circle back to my first post that women often make the better worker or employee (maybe they outwork men or are more conscientious?), but men are the natural leader. Which l differentiate in effectiveness from merely being a tyrant. It’s difficult to submit to being led, who wants to be ruled over? Even children resist this.

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@EmilyQ , @BrickHead, @anna_5588 , @JKil116 , @unreal24278, @NickViar , @treco , @dt79
Hi folks,
Thanks for the spirited discussion, but something pretty major has come up that I have to deal with so I have to dip. I have often said, betrayal is worse than death and I got another example of that yesterday.
I can’t tell y’all too much about it, but in short I received irrefutable proof that someone I knew, someone who was pretty close to me has a very, very dark secret. A secret that should have put them in prison for a very long time, a long time ago. And people were hurt, seriously hurt by this person. And I don’t know how many victims there are, I know of one certified. Unfortunately, there may be many more and even more unfortunately, I have information that may reveal more victims. It’s absolutely horrific and I am really distressed. Evil, no matter how cynical I get, seems to always catch me off my guard. And this is really evil shit.

Normally when life kicks me in the nuts, I just leave and don’t worry about the forums. But this time I thought I would explain. I would much rather argue with you folks, that’s for sure.
I don’t know what’s coming next and I have a duty to victims to bring justice, at least some justice. Nothing can give back what this person took from them. But I at least have to try.
And the way my luck goes, somehow I will end up being the bad guy for trying to do the right thing. But if I can alleviate suffering in the world, I aim to do that; come what may.

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Well that’s awful, sorry this fell on you. Hope you achieve resolution or justice swiftly.

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Well shit… I’m really sorry to hear this, sometimes the people we least expect lead an alternate lifestyle behind the scenes

Wish you all the best. Good luck with everything.

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Sorry to hear. I hope Justice is served

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If I had to guess, number 2 on your list is the big one. People are just much fatter than they used to be.

Rape kits don’t prove rape though. They prove sexual intercourse took place. In some cases, that may be enough, but in other’s, it isn’t very good proof.

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Hence why I’ve listed a whole selection of potential criteria that could be used to prove misconduct took place

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Yep. I just point that out, because many people seem to think a positive rape kit test proves rape. I agree it is hard to prove, and that is a bummer. Maybe with advancing technology, it will become easier. I could see some sort of app being designed. I mean Alexa pretty much monitors everyone all the time. It seems like an app could potentially recognize a rape occurring and record audio / video?