More Trouble Than I Am Worth: Chaos Is The Plan (T3hPwnisher Log)

@dagill2 Very much appreciated dude! I think you nailed it: so often I’ll see a “rate my program” topic, and when you ask “for what purpose is this program built?”, it’s crickets. And part of it too is people are just embarrassed or ashamed to say what they really want. ESPECIALLY when it comes to “vanity”: as though wanting to look good is somehow more vain than wanting to be strong. When we try to skirt around our goals and trick ourselves into accomplishing them, we don’t. We have to admit what we are first.

And thank you for perpetuating the barber joke, haha.

@SvenG Absolutely dude! Always happy to chat and share. No reason to charge: all I’m selling is hard work. The more people that buy that: the better.

@hustlinghat93 Glad you enjoy it dude. The Jocko thing may have come up once or twice…

@jdm135 So getting to yes with SS absent milk is honestly easy: just eat a lot of goddamn food, haha. My issue is purely a mental hang up: the milk is part of the program in my mind. Similar to Deep Water’s diet, and similar to Building the Monolith, but to an even greater magnitude. But that’s all it is: a mental hang up. The pure biology of it is all simple enough: that program creates a huge demand on your body, and you feed your body so it grows muscle.

If I were treating this like some sort of nut to crack and I HAD to drink a gallon of something every day as part of the program, I’d probably create a mixture of the drinkable egg whites I use and cashew milk or some other not actual milk-milk product. The eggs provide the protein, the “milk” provides the fats. That said, it’d be light on the carb side absent some sort of sweetener, but you could still get in a solid amount of liquid calories. I suppose even easier would be just mixing the milk with some sort of protein powder, or possibly peanut flour.

And, then, of course, there is the chicken shake


BUILDING THE MONOLITH Week 6, Workout..5?

AM WORKOUT (0615 natural wake up) FASTED

22 rounds of 20 seconds on/10 seconds off burpees over bar

PM WORKOUT (1530)

Axle bench press
5x136
5x226
5x256
5x5x286

CONDITIONING

20x320 Buffalo Bar Squat+20x316 Axle deadlift

Notes: Short on time and figured “why not do a powerlifting meet?” Finished up the benching from BtM and then hit the Deep Water squat/deadlift combo. Man I’m digging this combo. It’s stupid short and totally obliterates me. I’m also thinking of ways to just make it stupid. I had an idea of 20 cleans to 20 front squats to 20 back squats to 20 deadlifts as a way of making 135lbs absolute and total hell. I also see potential with throwing in the log for some vipers at the end of the deads instead. There’s always room for misery.

Tomorrow would be the official end of the gaining phase. From there, transition to a diet break and my intensification block. Already missing gaining and I haven’t even stopped yet, but my guts need a break.

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Man that’s a good bad idea.

@T3hPwnisher @flappinit thanks guys, I’ll use that: the milk isnt magic, its s method of injesting a lot of bonus calories with good macros easily. I can find a way. If I do SS that is :disappointed_relieved:

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I am too good at it, haha.

You could always co-opt BtM and do the 1.5lbs of ground beef and a dozen eggs a day instead.

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I think I’ve had this conversation either elsewhere or in this actual log, but it’s an old-school foolproof way of making sure that kids with too many questions and not enough common sense have no chance of being underfed.

It’s also an absolute fuckload of sugar and probably a nightmare for our digestive systems. If you literally have a life-threatening excuse to not do it, don’t break your back or the bank to do it, just choose another less dumb idea (like Pwn’s BTM suggestion) and do that.

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BUILDING THE MONOLITH Week 6, Workout Final (whichever one that is)

AM WORKOUT (0350 wake up via dog)

Weighted NG chins 80lbs
5x5

Axle clean and strict press (clean first 2 reps, press away rest) 156lbs
12x5

Buffalo Bar Squat
5xBar
5x140
5x230
5x350
5x395
5x445

Band pull aparts
2x50

Axle shrugs against short average bands
1x100

Buffalo Bar Squat
28x330

Dry heave AMRAP

50 dips
25 pushdowns
40 reverse hypers w/50lbs
Neck Harness
Neck curls

POST WORKOUT SHAKE

CONDITIONING

EMOM 5 burpee pull ups for 20 minutes, then death by burpee pull up starting at 6 (died on the 24th round, going for 9 reps and hitting 7).

Notes: Wife and kid had the day off, so I was able to sleep a little later. Way this shook out was me doubling up on presses again to get them done quick, so press-squat-chin-press-load the bar for squats-press-squat-chin-etc. Made the workout go real quick. Had to rest pause the shrugs at rep 90. Topset of squats was slick. It felt heavy to walkout, but after that I felt strong. This upcoming round of Zeno’s should fix that walkout thing. It’s one of the perks I’ve noticed with that approach: rest pausing means doing a LOT of walkouts.

I gave that squat my all, but I’m also unsatisfied with it. I was struggling with bar position, and if I had it a touch higher on the back I think I may have been able to get to 30. As it was, it was crushing my upper vertebrae and collapsing my lungs.

I DO want to point out that, around 12 hours before that widowmaker, I did that Deep Water squat and deadlift workout. I don’t do so to excuse any sort of performance, but more to highlight that the body is FAR more resilient that we give it credit for. And food is anabolic.

That conditioning was pretty clutch. My rack is too low to jump into a pull-up, so these were like 5 count burpees (no jump). Nice sneaky way to get in some extra lat work. I can see pushing this out for an hour sometime.

Maybe get in a walk later today. I’m excited to be taking a break from the nutrition. The Mrs has been saying I look great these past few days, but also hit me this morning with “I genuinely wonder how much of your day is spent cooking”

Yup. When dudes ask “how will I know when to stop gaining”: that’s when, haha.

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:disappointed_relieved:
Nice turn of phrase

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PRs abound!

Your strength ratios/work capacity are insane…

Much appreciate Anna. I’m finding new ways to PR.

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Amen to that!

Also I really enjoyed the bit where you couldn’t even undo the lever on your belt, that’s leaving it all out there!

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@alex_uk Thanks man! It was definitely a new level of Deep Water for me. Probably the most significant gain from this training cycle: kept finding further to push myself.


AM WORKOUT (0310 wake up via dog) FASTED

Prowler loaded w/90lbs
45lb KBs

5 KB thrusters, run to prowler, low handle push 60 paces, high handle push, low handle push, backwards drag, run back to bells

13 rounds in 51:40

POST WORKOUT SHAKE

50 chins
50 dips
40 reverse hypers w/50lbs
20 standing ab wheels
50 pull aparts
25 pushdowns

Notes: Seeing improvement on the prowler. Getting more rounds done in the timeframe. Really found some magic on this particular protocol: gives me some prowler flu something fierce early in. It was 34 degrees according to my truck, and I shed the shirt by the 30 minute mark.

Diet break has started. As much as I hate “not building”, I’m looking forward to just eating easily for a while.

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I’d like to point out that Acktually, those squats weren’t parallel and therefore don’t “count”. You couldn’t possibly have grown here.

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I may not have grown, but I certainly groaned.

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I confess I don’t watch these videos with the sound on because I don’t want my other half asking what I’m watching.

On a serious note, I really appreciate that this log keeps showing that effort is the key variable. Fancy rep schemes and myo-infimetric training are just distractions.

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I’m the same way. I always wonder what people hope to hear, haha. Although I also have to keep my talking to myself to a minimum when I’m on video, to keep things PG rated.

And very much appreciate the serious note. It’s what I’m discovering as well. The big thing is, we have to define strength FIRST and then things make more sense. Everyone approaches it like it’s just 1rm. Ok: yeah, if THAT is what you thing “strong” means, then it’s going to be VERY formulaic to get there. Under the “more trouble than you’re worth” banner? Now 1rm is just PART of the equation, and if we focus too much on that, we run the risk of becoming worth the trouble.

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I’m starting to agree with Dan John more and more, most people are really, really poor at defining what the goal actually is, and even worse at working back from those goals to the methods used. I include myself in that 100% That’s why I really enjoyed your latest (?) Blog post on why you train. It’s a clear articulation of “this is what I want to achieve, therefore this is what I’m going to do”.

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Glad you appreciated it dude. “The goal is to keep the goal the goal”. Dan always sums it up well.


Alright, let’s map out the training plan, since it’s starting tomorrow.

This is just lifting. There will be conditioning, but that’s meant to be chaotic.

Day A: Strict Press Day

MAIN WORK: Work up to a 5rm, 3rm or 1rm on log (depending on week). Clean and press away.

Superset main work with weighted chins. Fixed weight, sets of 8-10. Thinking maybe some Kelso shrugs too for a giant set. Could also kelso shrug the log.

Take 70% of whatever I hit for that mainwork and take it on the axle for AMRAP with rest pause (clean once and press away). Continue with supersets.

SUPPLEMENTAL/ASSISTANCE (GIANT SETS)

Odd sets: Weighted dips-bodyweight dips-lateral raise-pull apart

Even sets: Trap bar press-dips-lateral raise-pull apart

Sets of 8-10 for the first movement, bodyweight dips until done, lateral raise will be higher rep, pull aparts sets of 20. Total of 6 sets: 3 for each rotation.

FINISHER

Kroc rows or Poundstone curls

CONDITIONING

I’ll figure that out

Day B: Squat Day

MAIN WORK: Zeno squats. Starting with 410lbs and will play it from there.

Giant set the warm-ups with box jumps and some sort of row.

SUPPLEMENTAL/ASSISTANCE (GIANT SETS)

Trap bar lift-reverse hyper-possibly KB swing

FINISHER

Axle shrugs against bands

CONDITIONING

On the fly

Day C: Push Press/Clean Each Rep Day

MAIN WORK: Take weight used on day A, put on axle, clean once and push press away

Take 70%, put on axle or log, clean each rep and strict press/viper

Superset with bodyweight chins

SUPPLEMENTAL/ASSISTANCE (GIANT SETS)

Odd sets: Behind the neck pres-dips-lateral raise-pull apart

Even sets: Incline DB or flat axle bench-dips-lateral raise-pull apart

FINISHER

Kroc rows or Poundstone curls

CONDITIONING

We’ll figure it out

Day D: Deadlift

MAIN WORK: ROM progression mat pulls, starting with 455+chains at the 6 mat height. Remove one each week.

SUPPLEMENTAL/ASSISTANCE (GIANT SETS)

SSB squats-deficit deadlifts-KB swings

FINISHER

Axle shrugs against bands

Conditioning

On the fly

Always subject to change, but I think this skeleton will work. My strict press day has all my supplemental work with a neutral grip, which is nifty. Got in some hard pressing on the push press day. Finishers take care of some neglected stuff. I want to get in more rows and back work where I can. Deadlift day needs to be done in the late morning/afternoon due to the noise level. Everything else should be ok. Using the log for the heavy work on the strict press day because I have a better chance of cleaning a heavy log vs a heavy axle. Lots of little considerations coming into play.

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You know, if you make the conditioning tough enough, you might only barely notice the weight training.

Tongue firmly in cheek.

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As I’ve mentioned in (very few) other logs, I love seeing effort and consistency rewarded with progress. Well done.

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T3hP’s incredible effort and consistency are truly rewarded with progress.

Not so sure he’s human though.