@Frank_C Yeah, there’s a reason our grandparents would cook the crap out of veggies. We don’t have the guts to digest most of them, so we either need to ferment them on the outside or cook them to the point of mush. That dude, Dr. Bill Schindler, I linked you to, has some fascinating things to say on the subject.
And dude, if you want a chip substitute, you’re missing out on Pork Rinds/Pork Cracklin, OR take it super next level and just use crispy bacon
That potato article really opened my eyes to toxins. You recently commented on foraging while hunting - eating fruits and seeds. And then I go back to Genesis in the Bible where Adam and Eve were allowed to eat any fruit in the garden except that one forbidden one. I don’t see mention of vegetables anywhere. In later sections of the Bible it talks about grapes (wine), olives (oil), figs, and grains, but I didn’t recall any veggies being mentioned.
eating fruits and seeds.
Fruits yes, seeds no. The plants want to protect the seeds, because those are their babies, so they’re going to have a LOT of nasty defense chemicals to do exactly that. But plants WANT you to eat the fruit/flower so that you’ll go somewhere and poop out the seeds and let the plant thrive.
But spot on. The bible uses a lot of fruit imagery and not much of veggies. And Adam and Eve were also allotted to eat ALL the animals as well. It was only AFTER being removed from the Garden of Eden we had to have the restrictions of Leviticus.
“Fruit of the womb” certainly sounds better than “vegetable of the womb”, haha.
EDIT: Forgot to mention, sadly, the boxing tournament was a bust. It required me to attend regular training sessions prior to the event in order to be assessed by the team. It was ultimately a recruiting effort for a boxing club, and I just plain don’t have the bandwidth for it. But, I’m also proud of myself for how easily I turned down the counter offers to “work with me” to get to fight in the tournament. I have my priorities, and family is first.
Nutrition Recap
Breakfast was 14oz of beef rib fingers that I cooked in the sous vide for 24 hours at 155, then air fried with some beef tallow spray for 4 minutes at 425. Very tender outcome, like burnt ends. Served alongside a beef liver that I did a pseudo confit on by letting it soak in the drippings from the bag from the sous vide, 3 whole eggs and 5 whites with some cheese and sour cream. Also (not pictured) some leftover spam from last night’s pizza (we did REAL Hawaiian).
Dinner was my patented double beef cheeseburger with a slice of swiss and a Don Lee Farm’s chicken breast patty for a bun, but I had the touch of brilliance to use crumbled bacon on top to make it a bacon cheeseburger…and upon eating it realized I had almost made a “chicken bacon ranch burger”, just with the avocado mayo instead of ranch. This was a real winner of a combination, alongside 3 whole eggs and 5 whites.
Just to correct, no record of Adam and Eve eating meat (wearing animal skins, post fall, so you could infer) but pre fall:
Genesis 1:29-30 NLT
[29] Then God said, “Look! I have given you every seed-bearing plant throughout the earth and all the fruit trees for your food. [30] And I have given every green plant as food for all the wild animals, the birds in the sky, and the small animals that scurry along the ground—everything that has life.” And that is what happened.
Interesting though that the green plants were for the wild animals.
Animals were expressly permitted later in Genesis:
Genesis 9:2-4 NLT
[2] All the animals of the earth, all the birds of the sky, all the small animals that scurry along the ground, and all the fish in the sea will look on you with fear and terror. I have placed them in your power. [3] I have given them to you for food, just as I have given you grain and vegetables. [4] But you must never eat any meat that still has the lifeblood in it.
But no blood pudding!
so you could infer
I infer SO hard, haha. Knowing that only the fruit from the tree of knowledge of good and evil was forbidden, I just imagine it like the scene from Willie Wonka where they’re eating everything around them. Although it would make for an interesting exchange to find out that wasn’t the case.
God: “Adam…last time I was here there were 2 pigs. Where is the second one?”
Adam, wiping BBQ sauce off his face with a fig leaf: “Burp no idea father. Unrelated, but did you know that I’m not the ONLY one with a spare rib?”
AM WORKOUT (0510 wake up via Valkyrie’s alarm)
TACTICAL BARBELL MASS PROTOCOL GREY MAN Week 9, Workout 2
“ROW, ROW, ROW YOUR BLOAT”
18 chins
20 minute recovery row
Notes:
Reinforcement for the carnivore diet!
But I must admit that Daniel’s diet when he first arrived in Babylon kind of destroys the argument of anyone who says God didn’t want us to eat veggies.
Many seem to contend that they were legumes, rather than veggies, so you’ve got THAT angle to work with, haha.
Interesting. I can read a tiny tiny bit of Latin… which is still a step or two away from the original… but it says: for food, humans get all seed-bearing woody and non-woody plant, and animals get all non-woody plants [seeds or not].
In the commentary, I guess there were no carnivores at all:
Unde patet quod tunc animalia animalium esu non vivebant, sed concorditer herbis et fructibus vescebantur.
Whence it is clear that at that time animals did not live by eating other animals, but ate grass and fruits in harmony.
It also says, twice, that humans get dominion over all the animals as subjects. Which is interesting because even though it doesn’t explicitly state “don’t eat your subjects”, it’s pretty clear.
Cool you called this out. Interesting to look into for a minute.
Now I’m wondering which green vegetables we eat don’t have seeds.
I looked it up: ferns and mosses are the only Plants (kingdom) that don’t have seeds. But I think that also includes algaes and fungi. So mushrooms, seaweed, spirulina.
But it’s also interesting while it indicates which plants, it doesn’t say which parts. Birch bark and cinnamon bark seem fine, lettuce leaves, grains.
I looked it up: ferns and mosses are the only Plants (kingdom) that don’t have seeds. But I think that also includes algaes and fungi. So mushrooms, seaweed, spirulina.
And as you identified, the fungi have their own kingdom they belong to…and boy is THAT one wild, as @SkyzykS can attest.
They are. There’s some wild stuff in all the kingdoms.
Things I learned relatively recently:
seaweed has “leaves” and “stems” and uses photosynthesis… but is an algae, not a plant
spirulina is a type of “blue-green algae”… which isn’t algae at all… but a bacteria
slugs and snails have thousands of teeth; they have more teeth than any other type of animal, including sharks. They need calcium in their diet, but don’t have bones. (I guess, like sharks.)
the portuguese man o’ war isn’t an animal at all, but a community of smaller organisms that combine together to function. Basically a highly venomous Captain Planet.
the blue dragon sea slug is one of the only creatures that can eat the man o’ war, and is possibly the closest thing I’ve ever seen that looks like a dragon
But you can’t eat it 
That was probably one of the most interesting posts that I have read. I genuinely enjoyed that.
What is that? It’s like a cross between a cauliflower and a sea sponge.
Mmmm… Perogies…
I was going to ask how you liked the rower… but this answers it.
A long time ago I really wanted a rower, after hearing a lot of good things about them from a conditioning standpoint especially in the rugby world. I really like the idea of it being full body instead of just the legs.
So I used one a few times, really wanting to like it, but it didn’t really click with me. I think it has something to do with the resistance. With running you can go for an easy long run, or a short hard sprint, but the rower felt like it never offered the right resistance.
That said, every few months I still think about getting a rower and convincing myself to like it.
To quote the wisdom of Joe Dirt
It’s not the rower I take umbrage with: it’s the 20 minute recovery workout. This could have been a walk, kata, swimming, etc. It’s just hard to get motivated for a recovery workout. It’s worth noting that I don’t like exercise IN GENERAL, so that’s a contributing factor, but as far as equipment goes, the rower is definitely my top rank for conditioning. I have the opposite experience as you when it comes to resistance with it: it pushes back as hard as I push, similar to an Air Dyne, but doesn’t sound like I’m mowing my lawn inside my house…like an Air Dyne. Which is way I sold my Air Dyne. I dig how it’s very simple to execute and just go Conan mode on it. About the only thing I don’t care for is how it’s executed from a seated position, as I tend to sit too much at work.
Ah, I see, and that helped me make sense of what I didn’t like.
It wasn’t the resistance per se, it was the “stroke” part of it. Because with a treadmill, elliptical, bike, Airdyne, you can just go at it and it’s a constant effort. With the rower it’s a burst of effort, a “break” to recover the stroke, and repeat. It’s not constant effort, and I think that messed with my head.
From a heart rate and breathing standpoint, it certainly did its job though.
And I definitely missed the part where this was a “recovery” workout. I just intermittently saw the rower in your log and figured it was being used differently.
