More Trouble Than I Am Worth: Chaos Is The Plan (T3hPwnisher Log)

Did you fucking have to? Now I have to try it, and that sounds like it sucks so bad.

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My brain is mysterious that way, haha. You show me something that’s like ā€œDo 4x8 at an RPE of 8 for the first 3 setsā€ and I’ll think ā€œThat doesn’t workā€. You throw a circus act at me like ā€œDo as many reps as you can with front squats, then take it squatsā€ I’ll be like ā€œOh yes, of courseā€

@dagill2 Oh man, let’s sign this suicide pact!

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Deal. Give me a couple of days, I’m not making a lot of training time at the minute.

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No worries dude: it’s a few weeks off for me.

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I don’t know if it was Jim Wendler, Matt Rhodes or Vincent Dizenzo that said ā€œhey man, progressive overload works for everybodyā€ and since progressive overload is relative 4x8 at an RPE of 8 would never work for you @T3hPwnisher You overloaded beyond that yonks ago.

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To quote Joe Dirt ā€œDon’t focus on the wrong part of the storyā€, haha. I just whipped up an example on the fly there, moreso pointing out that programming IN GENERAL just makes no sense to me when I see/hear it. Reps, sets and percentages just don’t click, but when someone says ā€œTake what you squat for 10 and do it for 20 by taking 3 deep breaths between repsā€, that clicks instantly. DoggCrapp saying ā€œDo your hardest set last and get more reps with rest pauseā€ makes a million times more sense to me than anything Josh Bryant has put out.

And it all works! But I can’t get my lizard brain to ā€œgetā€ it. I appreciate the dudes that can work magic with a spreadsheet, but I’m ALSO glad there are guys out there like Derek Poundstone, Jamie Lewis, Jon Andersen, etc who are just finding ways to break themselves and build back up again.

I always found Kroc interesting in that regard. I bought ā€œInsane Trainingā€ expecting just that, but it’s SUPER percentage based.

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Such a cookie cutter book. I mean, the programs are solid, but extremely beige

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Yup! Nutrition too, for that matter. And given Kroc was massively big, strong, jacked and lean, it goes to show what the ā€œsecretā€ was all along: actually following through!

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The mindset stuff was the most valuable I think. Nothing unique, nothing I haven’t heard in Deep Water or your blog etc. But I like to see the same message in different words, it helps to see the common trends.

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I felt that stung just a little. :joy::joy:

I feel like you’d like a squat/burpee workout I did a while back. It’s a bit like your tower workouts

You take 100kg and do
1 rep squat
1 burpee
And build up to ten reps, then back down to 1
So ends up 100 reps of each.
Great ā€˜for time’ workout and one where the burpees become the rest haha

Tough and consistent are keys to progress. To many want this to be more complicated than it actually is. I built almost all of my muscle following no training plan. I went into the gym, picked some good exercises and pushed to failure on anything past the first set.
May not have been optimal, but it worked.

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@dagill2 Means a lot for you to rank me along those. Mindset is SO valuable. It’s why I’d rather read stories than studies. Dan John even fits there with mindset: a good reminder of the necessity of balance.

@simo74 Man, if you can make it work, more power to you. Mike Tuchscherer is like that, and it CLEARLY works, haha.

@kleinhound Sounds like a burner for sure. Always dig those approaches.

@cyclonengineer Those will be the stories we tell our kids. ā€œI went to the gym BEFORE you knew what a program was. We just threw stuff against the wall and found out what stuck!ā€ It definitely worked too.


PM WORKOUT (1900)

Keg Grace

Time: 2:02 (11 second PR)

I can’t be stopped.

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Funny you say that cause Tim who helps with my programming is a big Mike T fan and bases a lot on his templates and learnings.

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Christ that’s awesome. Watched the whole thing, you can see the pain misery and fatigue and you just keep going.
And that keg weighs as much as the sandbag I’ve been struggling just to shoulder a rep or two. You’re locking this thing out like a sack of dog food.

On that note lol a little Milo of Croton here: most of my kids are around 50lbs, and I one-arm press them all the time hoping to grow as they get heavier!

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You’re a monster. That is incredible

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@simo74 And eventually it all comes back to the Greeks, haha.

@jdm135 Much appreciated dude. Kegs and sandbags are opposite sides of the same coin. A sandbag is MUCH harder to get up off the ground, but easier to carry, while the keg is the opposite, so definitely no shame in struggle bussing with a 150lb keg. The agony is real! Haha. The big thing is I have to outrun my body, brain and lungs on these things. The first 15 reps happen in a bit of a fugue state, and then after that it’s pushing through. Be sure to feed those kids well so they grow!

@boilerman Much appreciated dude! High praise from you.


BUILDING THE MONOLITH Week 4, Workout 7

AM WORKOUT (0325 natural wake up) FASTED

RESCUE RANGER

Start off with 4 KB thrusters w/45lb bells, then high handle prowler (loaded with 90lbs) push 60 paces, low handle it back to start, backwards drag 60 paces, low handle push back to start. That’s 1 round.

I got 12 done in under 52 minutes.

Naming this one ā€œRescue Rangersā€ because I started off with a long sleeve shirt, knit cap and gloves, and shed them all within the second round. Even though it was freezing outside, this gives you prowler flu so bad you take off clothes like a Chippendale.

And if you don’t get how that relates, we can’t be friends.

Got in the rest of my daily work when I got home. Did the ultimate bro move and actually packed a shaker bottle with liquid egg whites and a baggy of protein and drank my shake immediately post prowling, to minimize how much time was spent fasted.

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I find using RPE not that useful above 4 reps. By that point, unless you’re really well conditioned it’s just too hard to tell fatigue of muscle vs. fatigue of cardio or not having a good work capacity.

Also rating anything under RPE6 (this is the lowest I’d ever rate something) isn’t very accurate because the weight just isn’t heavy enough to judge.

RPE is fairly subjective, some people use it as a RIR (reps in reserve) regard, and some use RPE as a difficulty scale.

I used to use RPE to auto regulate workouts to keep recovery optimal, as I’m sure you know, not everyday we feel great and can hit a certain % consistently. I’ve since switched to a RIR method to keep ratings more consistent. I still wouldn’t rate anything higher than a RIR4.

I’ve never cared for either method myself. I find most folks don’t have any real concept of what their point of failure ACTUALLY is.

I like going to this video as my reference

MOST folks would probably say rep 12 was it, if not earlier. So if they wanted to call it with 3 reps ā€œin the tankā€, they’d actually be leaving SIX reps in the tank.

Hell, even I catch myself off guard sometimes.

But, again, for some folks it works INCREDIBLY well.

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Holy, that was quite the set. You’ve got long arms! You look like you’re built to DL.

I absolutely get where you’re coming from, if you have other methods that work, why change?

I suppose the biggest discrepancy would be where you call your 10 at, ie. form breakdown or complete exhaustion, what you can recover from and how long it would take, and what you’re training for.

It’s biggest use is to auto regulate, but if recovery is not an issue then there’s no point!

Good lift brother

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