More Trouble Than I Am Worth: Chaos Is The Plan (T3hPwnisher Log)

What’s the plan? Chaos, of course. But we’ll reign that in a bit and, perhaps, establish intent.

So with that: nutritional intent for Operation Conan.

  • When I eat food, it will be carnivore. I phrase it like that, because I intend to still employ my protein sparing modified fasts during the weekday that are facilitated by Metabolic Drive. Why? Because it absolutely works. I’ve tried traditional fasting, and it’s a poor fit for me, and I feel like it’s a poor fit for most individuals actually interested in building/keeping muscle. Meanwhile, Metabolic Drive is an excellent product, and between the blended protein and my carnivore approach to eating I have zero issues staying satiated with this approach, to the point that it’s too easy to forget to eat these days. I actually really enjoy the Velocity Diet 4.0 approach of just one solid meal a day, except I definitely like to go beyond the realm of “healthy” as far as the calorie recommendations go, and instead use this as an opportunity to feast. I’ve heard of this approach referred to as “Intermittent Feasting”, and I think that’s absolutely the right mentality to have. Eat your fill, and then stay away from food until you’re hungry again.

  • Already I’m rambling. When I eat food, it will be carnivore. When I eat carnivore, the majority of my intake will be ruminant animal meat and eggs (no, not ruminant animal eggs: don’t be stupid). These past few weeks have demonstrated to me that I look, feel and perform my best when the meat I eat comes from ruminant animals, whereas when I eat chicken I tend to feel bloated and inflamed. Certain cuts of pork seem to be the same, whereas others can be more benign, but I experience the actual positives of the food when it’s ruminant animals. This will include venison, bison, beef, lamb, and any others I manage to get access to.

  • Again: why do I phrase it as I wrote above? Because I have a habit of increasing my intake of “carnivore treats” when I’m looking to gain. By that, I refer to dairy products (cheeses, ghee and sour cream) and pork rinds/cracklin. Though these qualify under carnivore, they need to be employed sparingly, to accent a meal, rather than take up an equal share of meal space. Meat and eggs are what will grow me: these other things are condiments. On a similar note, processed meats are “meat candy”: bacon, sausages and hot dogs can appear in the rotation, but they should not be the majority of what is on my plate. I’m even considering a policy of never having a plate that is absent of ruminant meat, meaning even if I’m eating chicken, there is some sort of beef alongside it, or at least some sort of eggs. We’ll see how that goes.

  • A weekly meal containing carbs will (ideally) occur. This is a family meal, rather than a cheat/binge meal. Meaning: if the family doesn’t make it, I’m not going to go out of my way to eat some carbs. I’ve had enough experience to discover that I absolutely CAN go long stretches without this meal, but it seems my body responds to this regular harmony disrupter, judging based off of physical appearance in the 2 days post meal. I listened to a podcast today that made the statement “If I had to pick between seed oils and sugar, I’d eat the sugar. At least my body knows HOW to process that”, and it suddenly dawned on me why the family carb meal has worked out so well for me compared to when I’d used this as an opportunity to eat out somewhere else. We still eat “clean” when we eat carbs. We use real, limited ingredients and make real food, and my body doesn’t have to work hard to process it. And even Conan has been caught feasting in the halls of royalty when they’ll have him: I will absolutely enjoy an opportunity to feast among family.

  • On weekdays, at least starting out, I’ll employ the protein sparing modified fast until either a mid day or end of day meal. In the case of the former, it means I’m having TWO solid meals that day (mid day AND end of day). I am finding I actually like linking 2 days of end of day meals together: one leading up to the family meal, and the day afterwards. It’s not “reactionary fasting” to undo the damage of the meal: I’m thinking that, by removing fat from the diet for those 48 hours, there is nothing to blunt the insulin response from the carbs, and all the protein I’m taking before and afterwards is able to get shuttled into my muscles. And that’s most likely alchemy, not even bro-science, but if I believed it hard enough, it will be true. Some of these solid meals will STILL be nearly pure protein meals in the form of egg whites and lean meats, but others will be very fatty, with meat on the bone being prioritized whenever possible.

  • On weekends, I’ll have 2-3 solid meals. These will be proteins and fats.

  • On all days, I’ll have 2 servings of Metabolic Drive before sleeping, and 1 in the middle of the night.

  • There will continue to be no counting of calories or macros. I’m eating my fill, and perhaps moreso. Progress in the gym is the goal, and I will eat to support that goal.

I like where this is heading. I may flesh out (PUNS) a bit more in the future, but wanted to get these thoughts down while I had them.

12 Likes

I love this analogy, and I think its true of other mentally challenging things in life too. Some things just seem easier when you have pushed through well beyond where you think you can go. We talk so much about the keys to success and most people focus on the training or the diet or even the supplements. But less people talk about the mental aspect to discipline and overcoming challenges. This is something you clearly have bundles of mate. Salute to you as always my friend.

4 Likes

I have found the same to be true. As for the chicken is this with all chicken (breast) or just dark meat?

I find that chicken breast is perfectly fine but, the dark meat and certain pork cuts give me indigestion. I will burp the fatty taste throughout the day.

Must be the less than ideal fat make-up (omega-6’s).

On these days (1 vs 2 meals) how many shakes/servings are you having in total?

Any reasoning behind choosing the lean versus fatty meal? Do you prefer one type over the other for specific reasons?

Do the meals tend to be similar when lean or fatty but, differ in size depending on hunger?

@simo74 100% It’s what the kids who just want studies can’t grasp: the academics eventually have to deal with the “human” factor.

@OTay Good to see you dude!

I run into it with both. I like chicken thighs, and will smoke them or hit them up in the air fryer, but I don’t feel as good eating them compared to red meat, and I was eating a chicken breast patty with my breakfasts that, when I cut it out, I noticed I didn’t feel bloated at the end of the meal. I know the patty was processed, and that’s part of the issue, but given it had minimal fat, I feel like the meat itself just isn’t great.

The whole “monogastric” vs ruminant thing plays a role I’m sure, when we factor in the AWFUL diet chickens are fed in the US.

A standard 1 meal day goes like this

0620 - 2 scoops of Metabolic Drive (post workout)

0930 - 2 scoops

1230 - 2 scoops

1730 - Solid meal

2030 - 2 scoops (mixed with a packet of unflavored gelatin)

Middle of the night - 1 scoop in shake in water (I state that, because in all other instance I’ll eat the Metabolic Drive rather than drink it, mixing it with a splash of hot water to create a pudding)

In a 2 meal day, I’ll make that 1230 feeding a meal. On weekends, I’ll do the 2030 and middle of the night servings.

When I’m trying to accelerate weight loss, I’ll start using more like 1.5 scoops vs 2 full ones.

Using a lean meal allows me to extend the PSMF without it being specifically with Metabolic Drive. Like, egg whites and piedmontese grassfed sirloin is effectively pure protein, but through a form of solid food. Often, I’ll do this for those midday meals. As far as preference goes, I DO prefer to fast as long as possible, primarily because it means I can REALLY feast on that final meal of the day. I’d rather have one HUGE fatty meal and eat my fill vs 2 satisfying meals, primarily because I don’t have much hunger these days.

The meals are pretty much the same no matter what: meat and eggs. For lean, it’ll be lean meat and egg whites, whereas for fatty, it’ll be fattier meat and whole eggs. And, of course, with lean meals, there’s no room for cheese, haha.


Took the day off work to get some chores done. Slept in, took the dogs for a long walk, going to mow the lawn and get in some more walking/activity through the day.

And on the topic of food, this was last night’s attempt to regain some weight

Triple venison burger on chaffle buns with grassfed sour cream alongside the leftover deviled eggs, pork cracklin and cottage cheese. Got some ribs on the smoker for lunch today

9 Likes

Are you saying ruminant animals are able to process things better so when we eat them, we consume less toxic ingredients? Sorry, just wasn’t quite sure what you were referring to. I’ve been interested in the recent mentions of an animal’s anatomy influencing how good it is for us.

Yes but this one study I read said that it was optimal if I only train to RIR 2… :rofl:

1 Like

@jshaving Nailed it. A ruminant animal has a multichambered stomach, which allows it to be able to breakdown all the nasty defense chemicals in plants along with the other toxins that come from eating a species inappropriate diet and better convert their food into the fatty acids that they need for fuel, which means less of that toxicity gets placed into their bodyfat, and we, in turn, don’t end up eating it. A monogastric animal doesn’t have that same grace (like us), and end up putting that toxicity into the fats. It’s one of the reasons people tend to experience “keto flu” when they switch to using fat as a fuel source: often these folks come into the diet from a lifetime of poor eating, so the fat that they’re using for fuel is full of toxicity and makes them feel sick.

@simo74 We’re at such a risk of undertraining, haha.


Whole day of yard work, ended up with over 20k steps, which I also managed yesterday. I mowed the front yard, batteries died because there was SO much grass to get through, so then I spent 90 minutes raking up dead grass to throw away to make things easier, during which time my ribs smoked to perfection (I’ve learned to doubt my instincts and just let them cook beyond the point I’m comfortable with, because these turned out AMAZING. I also used my “Indian Crutch”, which is like a Texas crutch, but with ghee instead of butter), walked the dogs again, drove to see my wife for lunch, got some groceries, came back and mowed the BACK yard, did some meal prep for my comp (cooked up 2lbs of ground venison), picked up my kiddo to take to the dentist, came home, Valkyrie made me breakfast for dinner

Boom! 2 3-egg omelets with 4oz of grassfed new zealand lamb between them, grassfed swiss and grassfed ghee, topped with grassfed sour cream alongside some beef bacon, 1.5 grassfed all beef hot dogs, half of a grassfed burger patty, some grassfed cottage cheese, and some pork cracklin. “The word of the day is Grassfed!”

After that, Valkyrie and I took the puppy for a 1.5 mile walk.

Do I know how to take a day off or what?!

13 Likes

AM WORKOUT (0410 wake up via alarm)

PRE-COMPETITION DELOAD

3+ mile treadmill walk at 3.5 pace and 4.0 incline
50 bodyweight reverse hypers

BREAKFAST

Moderate walk w/dogs

Notes:

  • Continuing to keep it easy. In turn, I am feeling the best I have felt in a LONG time. No knee pain, hip/glute pain is almost entirely eliminated, no nerve twinges, full mobility, etc. I’ve frequently said “life gives you deloads”, and that is often true, but I’m learning a lot from this intentional deload. I definitely need to make this a regular occurrence during those times when I’m pushing the training hard. In general, Phyrexian Dreadnought was a smashing success irrespective of my competition performance, because it was a great self-guided approach to getting myself back into strongman shape, intensifying, and recovering.

  • With all the activity this morning, I had 10500 steps before 0800/getting into work. That was oddly satisfying. My watch is saying my resting heart rate is 36 as well, which is dandy. It DOES make it tough when I’m working hard and I look down and see 72 as my heart rate, and then I have to realize that’s double my RHR. I also ended up pushing the distance a little further today because I was watching an episode of “Cobra Kai” that was at a REAL good part and I wanted to keep watching.

  • Which, on that note, I think I’m going to upset Jamie Lewis and spend more time on the treadmill these days. I’m finding joy walking on it and watching TV, and it keeps me honest with my pacing. I’ll throw on a weighted vest every once in a while, but otherwise will just play with the incline.

  • Which on THAT note, right now it’s not a big deal anyways, as I’m still getting plenty of time out in the sun with walking my puppy and daily chores. I did like 5 hours of yard work yesterday, shirtless and soaking up Vitamin D. This led to an awkward moment with our contractor. We’re STILL recovering from that tornado in Apr, and unbeknownst to me, our contractor was going to come by the house for a quick check in. He texted my wife, but she was busy and didn’t relay it to me. Dude shows up, I see him, take out my ear buds and go to chat, and he goes “Hey…looks like you’re in pretty good shape”, “Thanks, sorry, didn’t know you were swinging by” “Yeah…you work out a lot? Like everyday?” “I try to, it keeps me young, just a lot of yard work today” “Yeah, I wanna work out some more, I wanna get fit, I’m not as fit as you” “You’re young: you got plenty of time” (Dude is like mid/late 20s), and this just keeps going on WAY longer than absolutely necessary. But, on the plus side, typically the way this goes is I run into someone from work at the grocery store while wearing my “Deadlifts and Dragons” tanktop, so this progress.

  • I stepped on the scale at 79.1 kg this morning. I will have ZERO issues making weight for the comp. I’m going to be coming in UNDER weight, just like last year, which is why I hate weight classes in the first place, but at least I know I can eat big today with no issues. I’ll be showing up VERY well nourished, and I’ve already got 3 steaks thawing out to make some steak and eggs tomorrow before the comp.

10 Likes

I just realized that I actually have the ability to run 1 full cycle of Mass protocol before my Tang Soo Do tournament obligation at the start of Oct, IF I allow myself to run 2 days together at the very end. I may just do that, and perhaps consider it a “break in cycle” before the REAL work starts.

I haven’t tested my 1rm on the press, but I have a pretty good understanding of my abilities there, and I think I’m going to wind the squat 1rm down a touch, but otherwise let me lay out some training days here so I’m ready.

WEEK 1

DAY A

  • Squat: 4-5x8x285
  • Press: 4-5x8x125
  • DB Bench: 4x12x60
  • Weighted chin: 4x12x145 (ok, that’s LESS than bodyweight: I might have to play around here)
  • GHRs: 4x21

DAY B

  • Trap bar dead: 4-5x8x395
  • Bench: 4-5x8x220
  • Dips: 4x12x178 (that IS bodyweight…)
  • BW Chins: 4x10
  • Axle curls: 4x12x45

Well, already I’m seeing what could be some pitfalls in my Supplemental work choices, but that’s why it’ll be a pilot cycle.

9 Likes

Folks, when you can eat at a buffet the night before weigh ins, you’ve arrived.

10 Likes

Haha dude, the amount of “nesting” I’ve been doing has my wife cracking up daily.

Great choice on the rifle! .270 is tough to beat for deer.

Edit: I had chicken for dinner two nights in a row, and yesterday I felt like I was coming down with Covid again. All the same symptoms. Had a large portion of grass fed beef last night, and this morning I feel great. Probably completely unrelated, but maybe not!

1 Like

Breakfast of champions. I shared the other half of those steaks with my kid…which meant I got a good amount back when they were done. Time to get after it. Woke up at 80.4kg: we got this

13 Likes

I’ve not yet picked up TB Mass Protocol. I’ll be interested in what you think of it, and if it gives me an excuse to pick it up. I’ve been mostly hesitant because I run strength alongside my CF, and wasn’t sure how something like that would fit in. Good luck at the comp!

1 Like

Haha this made me laugh. I accomplished this by being in the heaviest weight division, with no weight limit.

3 Likes

:+1:t5:

1 Like

Arrived in Bizarro Land!

1 Like

@antiquity Thanks so much man! I’ll be sure to report on it. I’d definitely pick the book up. If you’re on the fence, let me buy you a copy on Kindle. You’ve done more than enough good will around here: I can pay you back as you’ve paid it forward.

@mr.v3lv3t Oh man, that nesting thing is real, and hearing you vouch for that rifle means a lot! I’m hoping I can take it out this season. Right now, prospects are looking grim. Cool to hear that revelation on the chicken: I think we’re onto something.

@dchris Man, in another life, that’s what I always wanted, haha. My heart will always be a 308er.

@FlatsFarmer That’s the only place I wanna be!


I wanna do a BIG write up, but here’s the cliff notes: I won!

I also set a Nebraska State Record on the farmer’s hold, beating the previous record by over 3 seconds.

I was up against one other guy, which made it a TIGHT competition. I won 3 of the 5 events, getting first in the first event, and second in the next 2. This made the sandbag carry event CRUCIAL, and, in turn, is why I engaged in the longest and most painful sandbag carry in all of recorded history so I could edge him out by 4.5 feet. This made us tied, which meant the farmer’s hold would decide it all. We went head to head, which made it awesome.

Also, with that breakfast and a 30oz green tea, I weighed in at 180.8 with clothes on. Crushed it. And I didn’t need to eat for the whole competition.

I’m over the moon, and too goddamn skinny, and my press is absolute garbage: it’s time to eat big and get strong again.

24 Likes

Congrats Pwn! It must feel awesome setting a state record!

I liked hearing your kid cheer you on.

You are truly the physical embodiment of “My dad can beat up your dad”

1 Like

I am so here for this

Edit: actually got to watch the video. My god brother, that sandbag carry hurt to WATCH, doing that must of been a special kind of suck. Showed some absolutely amazing grit in that event, I think most men would of dropped that sandbag at about 30seconds or more earlier

2 Likes

Your kid cheering for you always makes the competition videos really fun to watch :] and I’ll second Atlas’s comment about the sandbag, every step of that last lap looked brutal. Congrats on the win + record!

2 Likes