More Trouble Than I Am Worth: Chaos Is The Plan (T3hPwnisher Log)

It includes that AND a barbell program, and then a few other programs as well. But it’s premised around a KB only approach.

You have to keep in mind that Dan’s definition of bodybuilding is not in the competition sense, but the general sense of building the body. Certainly not going to step on stage, but sure to grow.

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Yeah Ive gathered that from him over the years. Building a “hoss” kind of guy who can bale hay with ease.

Muscle is muscle though, and The older I get the more I move away from standard BBing training and look for these simple, efficient approaches so its appealing… I just dont have very many kettle bells lol

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He’s actually got a single KB program in there AND a mixed loads protocol for just such a situation. It’s honestly a shame this book didn’t come out in 2020: it woulda been gangbusters.

And you’ve got the right mentality there for sure. We “masters” athletes have gotta keep an eye on the prize here. Being sexy is cool: being ABLE is far better. And like Machiavelli said, ideally, we’d be both, but if we have to pick one: let’s pick able. As we get older, having that muscle is going to be SO valuable.

And Dan is SO good at selling these programs, haha. He could convince me that all I need to be jacked in a hula hoop and a yo-yo.

@unicornsandrainbows It’s rough living with such an awesome cook baker, haha. I put on nearly 30lbs when I first got married. I, of course, OVERcorrected and stopped eating her baked goods for over a decade, and now I’m in a place where I’ve learned how to really enjoy and appreciate them.


I realized that, in my hustle to upload all the training I did over the weekend, I didn’t really discuss it. The mat pulls went really well. Particularly, this was the easiest time I’ve had breaking the weight off the floor. I felt less like I was fishing pole-ing the weight off and more like I was actually breaking it off the floor, and that saved energy got to be placed into the pulls. Once again, I think all the work from various angles is shinning through.

On the strongman sprint, I definitely died in the back portion of it, but I killed the front of it, which is more indicative of performance capability in a show. I feel like my conditioning is getting more “strongman tailored” with this approach: able to put out a better effort in the first minute rather than a solid 30-40 minute slog.

All that said, after going to the Ren Faire yesterday, I am seriously considering trying my hand in armored combat. Watching it live, it looked like my kind of sport. Question would be if the Mrs would be on board. But here is an example of what I saw.

I was chatting with the dude at the Faire, and he seemed like he was trying to recruit me. Told me about how they have dudes from all sorts of athletic backgrounds, the incorporation of wrestling, judo, jits and other unarmed forms of combat, other nifty things. And I’d feel like I’m not “betraying” my Tang Soo Do dojang by taking this up compared to if I went and started back up with Muay Thai or boxing.

When I get back from my vacation, I may see if I can get in one session with the dudes and see if I care for it.

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I’d seen silly SCA battles at the one event I went to years ago, with foam equipment and stuff.

And then recently I saw this video, and also thought it looked all sorts of crazy and fun.

EDIT: switched to the video I intended

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Haha, you’re the most awesome kind of lunatic. I’ll be curious to hear what the Mrs thinks.

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Haha I’ve seen some of this before it’s definitely nuts:

Seems right up your alley!

My Mrs vetoed me getting a Triumph Rocket 3 (or any bike), pretty sure medieval combat would be out of the question as well. Curious to see how that plays out for you.

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Quoting this and tagging @rugby_lifting as this may help with some goal setting and motivation challenges.

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Dude I went to a ren faire in my area and saw this on the agenda and just figured it was some WWE type stuff, like a performance basically to entertain the crowd, and was shocked to see these dudes actually legit fighting in full blown armor and weapons.

Nothing I would do myself but I certainly get the appeal, it was crazy

I looked it up and its actually a league and they keep points and stuff and there are winners at the end of the season

PS - Bought the armor building book and will be checking it out this week as I finish up my final dieting phase

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I’m days late to the party on this comment, but it’s a hidden gem. (He says while straight up ignoring the rest of the most prolific log on the forums.)

Not a lot of time to get into it, but this perspective is so valuable, and I’m shifting toward it (even though I’ll basically drink a bag of nuts or trail mix, especially when under stress, and have discussed it; but that’s a separate issue. At play here is the thought process.)

Meat occurs in nature. Roots do too. Leaves as well, although leaves suck. What about fruits? Like citrus, strawberries, berries? Or are they the product of domestication and/or would only be available very rarely?

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Man it’s too fun. I watched “Knight Fight” on the history channel Youtube then HAD TO try it. Very fun and if you have any combat sport background you have a huge leg up.

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@LoRez Exact same thing happened to me. I saw something at last year’s Ren Faire put on by a different company which was kinda cute but didn’t really grab my interest. The sheer brutality of this was really awe inspiring. It gave me a sense of perspective regarding how ugly knightly combat must have been.

@EmilyQ Being called an awesome kind of lunatic by a mental health professional is some of the highest praise I could ask for! Haha. Thank you! Will definitely be an interesting conversation I’m sure.

@alex_uk Our spouses are pretty good at civilizing us, haha. I know that she knew I fought when we first met. In fact, the second time she ever saw me I had QUITE the shiner from my buddy Mark rocking me in some MMA sparring, and she was my co-president of the MMA club I started in college…but, unlike me, she most likely realizes that I’m NOT 20 any more and probably shouldn’t be up to these shenanigans

@simo74 Glad you found it helpful!

@Lonnie123 Happy to hear you bought the book! Hope you enjoy. And yeah, the guy at the site was telling me about the competitions they go to. Apparently Eastern Europe is really big into it: they’ll actually hold the competitions at some of the castles and historic sites.

@Taylortooswift Oh man, that’s awesome you gave it a go. I’m sure your height was helpful there. Did you have to get your own armor, or were you able to use loaner gear? I’d be so curious to pick your brain.


AM WORKOUT (0405 wake up via alarm)

DOGGCRAPP Week 11, Workout B1

Axle Curls
20xAxle
10x53
8x63
16+6+6x73

90 second bicep stretch

Axle Shrugs
20xAxle
10xLight band
5xStrong Band
11+5+4xSuper Strong Band

70 second axle trap stretch w/super strong band

Belt calf raises
20xBW
10x55
12x105

90 second belt calf stretch

SSB Good Mornings
10xBar
10x98
13+5+3x155

90 second hamstring stretch w/40kg bell

SSB Front Squats
10xBar
8x115
4x135
4x185
5x265
15x215

90 second quad stretch

3x10 standing ab wheel

No walk (storms)

Notes:

  • Video seems stuck: will post when available.

  • Training motivation was solid enough for this. This day doesn’t particularly jazz me, but it’s not bad. Pretty middle of the road. Those SSB good mornings are probably the worst of it, and they really DO suck.

  • Progressed on everything in some way. More reps on the curls and good mornings, more weight/resistance on the shrugs, calves, and the front squats.

  • Broke out some bands that have been on storage for a LONG time on those shrugs, and I’m really seeing the benefits of focusing on traps in the program. They’re showing up strong, and I feel like this is one of the many positive contributors toward my improving deadlift.

  • On the SSB good mornings, I had a real technique revelation where I established a solid mind-muscle connection with my posterior chain the complete the movement. No longer just hinging the hips, but also squeezing/contracting the muscles to complete the movement. Took some pain away from my right hip as well.

  • I’m not satisfied with the widowmaker performance on the front squat. It was absolutely tough at 15 reps, but I was more facing issues with the rack vs my quads. My right bicep kept cramping under the load, and I effectively lost the weight on the eccentric of the 16th rep. I was certainly close to done at that point, but I woulda preferred really giving it my all to get there. BUT I also have to take solace in the fact that these front squats are SO different from how I used to. My heels are touching, I’m taking the depth to the very basement, and I have no belt on. Getting strong like this is going to get me VERY strong.

  • Thinking about what I’m going to do when I return from vacation. I’m using the break as a kickstart into a fat loss phase, primarily because I don’t want to train hard enough on vacation to build muscle, nor do I want to eat all the meat in my in-laws house in order to facilitate building muscle, so I’m going to just use this as a time to eat less, go on more walks, and do just enough training, with a possible Murph thrown in on Memorial Day for good measure. After that, assuming I’m serious about it, there’s a competition on 13 Jul that looks ok. It’s got log and axle deadlift for reps, a sandbag over bar for time, a zercher yoke carry and a truck pull. I like 2 of those events, I’m ok with 2 of them, and I dislike 1 (the truck pull), which, as far as recent competitions go, is pretty good for me. Question is training. If I’m still losing fat, DoggCrapp doesn’t seem like the best way forward, and if I want to get good at that show, there’s a few things I’d want to train up. I’ve been already knocking out the log and sandbag throwing with that strongman sprint, and the deadlifts with my mat pulling. I can get in some prowler work for the truck pull, and maybe actually use my yoke as a yoke for the carry…BUT, because I train so damn early in the morning, the prowler and yoke aren’t really viable and would have to get moved to weekends. I’m thinking I might do some sort of full body work 3x a week for the weights. I want to keep a lot of the stuff that’s been working with DC, but intensity is going to have to go up with volume going down to account for nutrition. Lotta ways to succeed here.

  • Got some Tang Soo Do sparring tonight…but also got some potential tornado warnings, so we’ll see how that all goes.

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No, there was a guy that brought me in. Turns out he was injured and around my size so it worked out. Used a mace and a punch shield. Box background was cool but trips from Muay Thai and wrestling were huge. Combat ends when someone hits the ground under the rules they went by.

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I wanted to take my time with this comment, because it’s huge, and I really appreciate you asking me the question. And I appreciate the kind things you said about my log in general.

Regarding your final paragraph: you’ve identified “the rub” as it relates to any attempt to “eat paleo”. Yup: modern fruits are an abomination, and the result of selective hybrid/crossbreeding. One of my favorite turn of phrases is “When life DOESN’T give you lemons, you make lemons and then make lemonade”, because the lemon DOESN’T exist in nature: it’s a hybrid of a citron and a sour/bitter orange. We MADE that.

BUT, here’s the thing: none of the MEAT we have access to is ancestral either. Going SUPER far back, we had “mega-fauna”: things like woolly mammoths. Slow moving, easy to hunt, LOTS of fat. Shawn Baker talks about the Gravettian: a society of people that lived off of Woolly Mammoths, who had an average height of 6’2 30,000 years ago: they were giants! None of those animals are around any more, but even if we wanted to eat like our more recent ancestors, we STILL can’t do that…because our animals aren’t eating the same foods they ate back then either.

Since our vegetation is an abomination, our animals are eating that and, in turn, becoming abominations. I really liked how Joe Rogan put it talking about Wagyu beef: “That’s like eating a dying fat man”. No animal should have that much fat on it in the wild, and even our wild animals are in a bad way, because they’re often eating the crops we’re growing. Our white-tail deer here in Nebraska get into the sweet corn and have marbling on them: it’s nuts!

All of THAT said: we can’t let perfect be the enemy of good. We appreciate the fact that we can never “eat paleo”, but we can at least strive for close. I don’t eat fruit, but if I did, I feel like the best approach is to eat it locally and seasonally. Eat the fruit that is growing in your area WHEN it is growing, as that is when your body would naturally have access to it, and it would best understand HOW to digest it. OR, getting even more specific, eat the fruit that grew in the area of your ancestors WHEN it grew, because there’s a fair chance your genetics will best tell the story of what it can and cannot consume.

I have no doubt that, if paleo man stumbled across some fruit, they’d eat it. And as far as nature goes: the fruit is the part of the plant that the plant WANTS you to eat. Nothing WANTS to be eaten, and everything has a way to defend itself from that. Animals have active defenses, but plants have to rely on toxins and natural pesticides to keep you from eating their stems, roots, seeds and leaves. But the fruit? It WANTS you to eat that, so that you’ll go walk away, poop it out somewhere, and spread the plant’s genetics to a new place. It’s probably going to be the least harmful part of the plant to eat…within reason. But fruits also tend to be pretty good at self-limiting binging. You can eat 300 calories of sugar in one candy bar. Trying to do that with apples is going to mean eating 3 medium sized apples in a row. You’ll be hungry right after that candy bar is done: you won’t be after 3 apples.

MAN that’s a lotta words, but hopefully some good came out of it. And I’m happy to expand even more if there is a demand for it, haha.

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I know nothing about this realm but could you practice your truck pull by pulling your truck?

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I definitely can! …but without a driver to stop it, it can become an issue, haha. And I’d have to load it pretty heavily to get it to work like a semi. But I appreciate the thought there! I used to push my van up and down my block with my wife at the wheel, and one time one of my neighbors joined me thinking my car had broken down. He wanted to know where to push it, and I said “just back and forth”, haha.

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I can’t imagine how flabbergasted i would’ve been in that scenario. A solid combination of “f this guy” and laughing my head off.

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@taylortooswift Appreciate you sharing that! Watching some of the fights, I could definitely see where my background would be helpful. Looked like an awesome hybrid.

@heretolog That about summed him up, haha. I’m always a spectacle in my neighborhood.

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That reminded me. Some of the most amazing fruit I’ve ever had was from the strawberry guava trees along the hiking trails in Hawaii. I don’t even know how you’d go about finding it.

There are a lot of wild forest berries though. As far as I know most blackberries are pretty close to their natural evolutionary forms. There’s plenty of wild ones to share with the bears where I am. Lingonberries aren’t native here but are also very “original”.

Edit: also blueberries

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Wasn’t Charles Poliquin always going on and on about guavas being great?

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I only remember the avocados

@LoRez You reminded me that I TOTALLY want to market something called “The Bear Diet”. Salmon, honey, and berries. I think it’s got some legs! I remembered this as I was enjoying some wonderful honey last night alongside those peanut butter goodies the Mrs made.

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