More Trouble Than I Am Worth: Chaos Is The Plan (T3hPwnisher Log)

[boilerman]

My goodness that thing looks glorious! Be sure to take some before/after pics when you fire that thing up dude

[flying_snek]

That definitely makes a lot sense. There was a lot of overcoming on that super squats run, and someone would have to be mad to not be proud of it.

The distiction between wanting to train vs having to train is pretty huge. I’d almost liken it to doing assignments for university where you actually want to do it(the topic is interesting to you) vs having to do one(the topic is something you hate). I do wonder if that metaphor is close to what you had in mind.

Also since I’m already here, your latest blog post made me realize why my sundays were always so filled with ennui. It’s simply too harmonious. I’ll need to figure out some ways to add disharmony to them, I think that should work well.

Glad to be along for the ride!

[creative_name]

@Lonnie123

aren’t as many young people filing in with all the other social media out there

I think this is a big part of it. From the perspective of someone who’s definitely a new-wave user of this site (19 years old, started posting about a year ago,) it seems like most people around my age are drawn much more towards Instagram/TikTok/Reddit for lifting content.

With the exception of a couple subreddits, I think the culture on all of those sites is pretty awful. The same stuff that makes them attractive to users (low barrier to entry, no concept of demonstrating some sort of competence before contributing an opinion, quantity of content over quality, and enforced brevity in comments) let some pretty asinine stuff get a good deal of traction.

I gave up on Instagram in particular after getting into an argument about deadlift technique with someone who deadlifts less than I press overhead.

It’s a shame to see that more people aren’t drawn to forums like this, though. I remember using a super active forum for high-school wrestling in my state back when I was doing it, and it completely died during Covid and never got properly replaced. Forums seem to be a dying genre of media, and I almost question the long-term viability of this site’s, given that I can only think of four or five active users around my age.

That got excessively long-winded lol

[T3hPwnisher]

RAMPAGE!

[LoRez]

@creative_name

low barrier to entry, no concept of demonstrating some sort of competence before contributing an opinion

That stuff happened/happens here too (I’ll take some responsibility…)

I think the main difference is forums provide a continual stream of incompetence rather than one-off short bursts. I really think it’s that conversational dialogue part that’s important. Lots of interactions to help correct that incompetence. And something of an actual sense of community.

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And hi @Lonnie123. Been a long time.

[atlas13]

Saw this and thought you may dig it.

Carnivore bread recipe. Just powdered eggs whites, water, and cottage cheese. Idk if it’s any good or not, but if it works out I could see you making some epic carnivore sandwiches.

Also, I’ve seen vegan stuff labeled as “cruelty free”, and just realized that would mean carnivore diet is 100% cruelty, which seems honestly fitting with the whole Viking thematics you’ve been leaning into haha

Edit: alright the video posted kind of odd. Here’s the recipe

1 cup powdered egg whites (do not use liquid egg whites)
1 cup water
1 cup cottage cheese (I used organic, whole milk)

1. Mix egg white powder with water until stiff peaks form.
2. Blend cottage cheese.
3. Fold cottage cheese into the egg white mixture.
4. Transfer mixture to a loaf pan.
5. Bake for 30 minutes at 350 degrees F.

[LoRez]

I haven’t really caught up on what’s going on in here. Is this kind of like the “cheat” feasts they use for bodybuilding contest prep? Strict diet for a week or three then a few hours to gorge and replenish/rebalance before getting back to it?

[Lonnie123]

@atlas13

Also, I’ve seen vegan stuff labeled as “cruelty free”,

Not to detail - and I know you’re being tongue in cheek - but I don’t think it’s quite that easy to be a vegan and get out of any cruelty on your diet that way, as the amount of animals killed in plant farming is tremendous

“ One [study] from Australia confirms this stark dynamic: it found that producing wheat and other grains resulted in at least 25 times more animals being killed per kilogram of usable protein than farming red meat did.”

PETA Admits: Vegan Diets Kill Animals - Center for Consumer Freedom - Center for Consumer Freedom.

And the animals don’t even get eaten later on, they just die for the cause of not eating animals. Pretty cruel if you ask me.

Obviously there are more dynamics at play than that but I just thought that was interesting when I found that out. It’s kind of a “dark secret” of the no-meat industry

[T3hPwnisher]

Holy cow today was nuts! All good things. Love all the love this log has been getting. I’ll come back to address more specifically, but @LoRez , regarding rampage meals: it comes from Jamie Lewis’ “Apex Predator diet”, and I went into some detail on my eating here

More Trouble Than I Am Worth: Chaos Is The Plan (T3hPwnisher Log)

Alrighty folks, settle in for this one. NUTRITIONAL ALCHEMY Alchemy: not science. Which is liberating. This is how I’m eating BECAUSE IT WORKS, and it works because I am BENDING REALITY TO MY WILL. And, because of that, things actually make sense. Go solipsism. I wanted to get this down in one spot, because it’s been dribs and drabs all over the place, and even then there’s going to be nuance left behind and things forgotten, but through the chaos I believe I’ve actually identified some…

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Started the day at 0800 with a fasted 150 squats and 200 push ups, kept the fast going until 1000, then Rampage Brunch

There was actually a THIRD round, which was more bacon, eggs, sausage and then another slice of breakfast pizza. I will say I employed an effective “carb cutting” strategy with this meal. wherein I literally cut all the carby foods on my plate in half and put them to the side. I still enjoyed all the food that way, but I wasn’t needlessly stuffed. For all those slices of pizza, I just took off the toppings, ate them and left the crust/shell behind, because it’s pretty worthless. I actually stuck with Jamie’s idea of opening the meal up with protein and fruits/nuts first, hence the first round. And had my traditional Metabolic Drive shake before the whole thing went down, alongside my Indigo 3g. A winning combo all around, as I came out of this feeling very satisfied but not like I was going to explode.

After that, lots of retail therapy. Bought myself a Ninja Turtles lunchbox, because that’s awesome

And we now have a Ninja Creami in the house, so I can make legit Metabolic Drive ice cream

My egg white bite maker churned out some cute snacks

Family went on a 5.5 mile walk (used my barefoot shoes, they’re amazing) after a day of shopping, so something like 7+ miles of walking total, after which time I got in the remainder of my squats and push ups and then made a light dinner of a chicken burger with some egg whites. Kept up the non-carnivore day with some sugar free bbq sauce

Back on the program tomorrow. Renewed, re-energized.

[cyclonengineer]

@T3hPwnisher

Ninja

Clearly the best meathead kitchen appliance brand.

[T3hPwnisher]

@atlas13 (This response got long: please forgive my bloviating) Really appreciate you looking out for me like that dude! At present, I’m honestly doing everything I can do not make carnivore breads or the like. I recognized something about myself and keto: I was LIVING off keto-junkfood. Keto/protein bars, keto bread, keto wraps, keto peanut butter spreads, keto brownies/desserts, keto muffins, etc. And what this told ME was that I clearly did NOT want to eat this way, because I was HIDING the food from myself and tricking myself. It’s why I was SO unhappy: I clearly didn’t want to eat the way I was eating: I was eating that way because I felt like I HAD to do it.

I truly, truly love eating meat/animals. I was doing keto because I could have SOME animals, but I was eating all that other junk to avoid meat because I was convinced I was wrong to eat that way. Leaning into it now, I’m in such a better place psychologically. And, in turn, it’s one of those things where, if I find myself having to turn the food into something else to eat it, I wonder why. Like, literally, no joke, without hyperbole, if you told me the only thing I’d ever get to eat again for the rest of my life was beef ribs and eggs, I’d check myself for bulletwounds, because I’d assume I died in battle and went to Valhalla, haha.

I’ll cop to it that I DO use those egg white wraps and play around with them to make my food look like other food, but in truth, the majority of that is more just to engage in the "social element’ of eating. If my whole family is sitting down and having sandwiches/wraps: I want to have a sandwich with them. I don’t want to have a special meal, because that’s about isolating myself from them, and I’ve done enough of that. So I’ll wrap it in a wrap. We’re having burgers? I’ll make a bun with a wrap. Rice/noodle bowls? I’ll make one with the egg wraps. And since the egg wraps are pre-built and ready to buy, I’m not going through great efforts to trick myself here.

But, Chaos is the Plan, and there’s definitely a future timeline out there where these things might feature, so I definitely appreciate it! It’s honestly just awesome the network we have here. And, again: get to Omaha, find me, we will cook lots of meat and lift lots of iron. I legit feel like you and I are brothers, and I have SO many stories to share with you.

@CycloneEngineer No joke man! My whole kitchen is practically Ninja now.

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AM WORKOUT (0415 natural wake up) FASTED

PLAGUE OF STRENGTH’S “FAMINE”: “RAGNAROK IS HERE Week 1, Workout 4: Bench

Plague of Strength's "Famine" Program: "Ragnarok Is Here" Week 1 Day 4: Bench

GIANT SET (bench-press-abs-curls) 60 second rests between sets

Axle Incline Bench
5x135+Chains
2x4x135+Chains
1x4x135+chains w/burnout set w/o chains

Trap bar press
6xAMRAPx85-95lbs w/2second lockout

Hanging leg raise
5xAMRAP

FG DB concentration curl
5x20x10lbs

20 minutes of dips w/Tabata timing
333 total

OFF CAMERA

2 minutes of BW squats (153 total)

BREAKFAST

2 mile walk outside

Notes:

• I’m still not 100%, which reflects in performance here, but I’m in a much better way than I’ve been. This was a good start to the week: something not terribly strenuous but allows me to push myself. Plus it’s Monday: international bench press day.

• I’m switching up movements a bunch this run because my body is in a weird place and this is keeping me from trying to compare old and new numbers. Learned that trick decades ago from Dave Tate and it is still so valuable.

• I have always been awful at incline, so it’s good to emphasize it for a bit. And since it beats up my shoulders, making the rest of my pressing NG seems smart. Chains added a nice variable.

• Time was tight at the end, so just slammed some squats to get ahead of that number. I’ll work some more later today.

• Been meaning to log this for a while, but one of the benefits of my “To Valhalla” run is that gravitating toward my strengths and away from my weaknesses really helped me heal. My right knee FINALLY feels better after Super Squats. It’s been making all these bodyweight squats and full ROM work so much more manageable. Wondering if all the time in the bearfoot shoes is helping too.

• Physique has returned to something more recognizable since my illness. It’s wild how sickness now has a severe physical manifestation in me.

[simo74]

@T3hPwnisher

but I’m in a much better way than I’ve been.

was great to read this. Play on

[LoRez]

Thanks for the link; that makes sense now. It’s obviously working well enough to keep you both alive and performing well. “Refeed” was the word I was blanking on.

I also really appreciated that you didn’t hold back on the verbosity. All of the nuance and detailed reasoning and rationale gets lost a lot these days, so it’s nice to see it spelled out.

Have you found the lack of vegetables to be problematic at all? I mean I get the “meat is just processed vegetables” angle, and I saw the mention of liver in there too, and it’s not like you’re exactly avoiding fat. I remember everyone being all about “you need fiber” for digestive health, but I always found that enough fat does the job too. My own diet now involves at least one fresh-cooked vegetable dish a meal now (wife’s insistence/preferences) but despite the claims of “missing vitamins/micronutrients” I haven’t noticed any actual difference. Mostly I just learned how to cook vegetables that taste good.

I think I’m going to throw in a bit of food blogging too, after seeing what you’ve done here.

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Also noticed lots of new toys in your gym. The viking press attachment, the yoke, and the chains. I probably won’t touch them for a long time now, but chains were probably my favorite surprise additions.

[T3hPwnisher]

@simo74 Thanks so much for the encouragement!

@LoRez Glad you could appreciate what I put down. I ate a TON of veggies and was very much a proponent of their consumption, but cutting them out has not proven any ill effect on me. I was eating them in place of meat, trying to fill a void in my guts. The sheer amount of celery I was consuming was absurd. It helps that I take in a variety of supplements, to include Superfood, Flameout, ElitePro vitamins, etc. I feel like all my bases are covered there. And I use Metamucil, which can cover the fiber angle, but with liver, grassfed beef, pasture raised eggs, etc, I’m taking in a pretty good profile of nutrients. My weekly rampage also tends to allow for a little nutritional variety as well. Got lots of new toys too, haha. It never stops.

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Got in a 2+ mile walk outside with the kiddo this afternoon alongside all my bodyweight work.

[T3hPwnisher]

Update to follow, but this is nuts. This is literally high schooi weight

[T3hPwnisher]

AM WORKOUT (0415 wake up via dog) FASTED

PLAGUE OF STRENGTH’S “FAMINE”: “RAGNAROK IS HERE” Week 1, Day 5: Rows and Squats

Plague of Strength's "Famine" Program: "Ragnarok Is Here" Week 1 Day 5: Rows, Squats & Burpee Chins

GIANT SET (row-squat-row-abs) 60 second rest between rounds.

Trap bar row
4x5x265

SSB wide hands squat to straps (beltless)
6x4x225+chains

Seated band row
4x20xLight
2x20 w/triple dropset

Hanging leg raise
5xAMRAP

20 rounds EMOM of 5 burpee chins w/10lb vest

100 calf-raises w/SSB

BREAKFAST

2 mile walk outside

Notes:

• So with that bodweight weigh in and all the hacking you can hear during the workout, I’m beginning to understand why my strength isn’t QUITE what it used to be. Honestly, that’s just absolutely nuts. I haven’t seen that number since high school. And you saw what I ate on Sunday. I’m eating like a goddamn king and my weight is just flying down. Mass Made Simple is sounding more and more appealing.

• I REALLY liked that squat variant. I’ve seen Brian Alsruhe do it quite a few times, and it seemed absolutely perfect for something different to force me out of my comfort zone. Going beltless even moreso. I could really feel my quads “turn on” coming out of the hole. I definitely see potential in this.

• Violated the program and instead of doing 20 minutes of straight chins I went with the burpee chins, and then threw on the vest to make it seem ok. I also went with strict technique as much as I could. That was surprisingly awesome. 5 reps per round hit just right. And I’m willing to count this toward conditioning and daily reqs.

• Right foot is experiencing a small amount of discomfort in it. Possibly a product of the bearfoot shoes.

• My abs have been super sore since that bodyweight circuit. I imagine throwing the ab wheel in was part of it. Good to have that back.

[bjiral]

That body weight is nuts! Are you following what you’ve posted before, or have you modified it for the second round through? I bought Jaimie’s book and I like the Rampaging Family-man Viking version you’re doing

[T3hPwnisher]

@bjiral

Are you following what you’ve posted before, or have you modified it for the second round through?

I’m not quite sure what you’re asking here. Can you rephrase?

Glad you’re enjoying the book dude!

[bjiral]

Poorly worded.
Are you still doing mostly shakes and a healthy solid meal on weekdays and weekends go more towards carnivore?
A better question: what modifications have you made to Jaime’a diet from the book

[T3hPwnisher]

@bjiral Still going with what I laid out here

More Trouble Than I Am Worth: Chaos Is The Plan (T3hPwnisher Log)

Alrighty folks, settle in for this one. NUTRITIONAL ALCHEMY Alchemy: not science. Which is liberating. This is how I’m eating BECAUSE IT WORKS, and it works because I am BENDING REALITY TO MY WILL. And, because of that, things actually make sense. Go solipsism. I wanted to get this down in one spot, because it’s been dribs and drabs all over the place, and even then there’s going to be nuance left behind and things forgotten, but through the chaos I believe I’ve actually identified some…

I briefly tried traditional IF vs a protein sparing modified fast and found it an awful idea. And trying for refeed vs rampage also seems to just miss the mark. The system works: no need to mess with it.

Which, speaking of, @LoRez something else I forgot to mention regarding getting nutrients is that, when I eat bone-in meat, I make sure to eat the cartilage and chew off the edges of the bones/get some marrow, and I consume grassfed beef bone broth pretty regularly too. Paul Saladino’s “nose to tail” notion is pretty sound to me.