I have been reading on these 3 weeks on, 2 off or 2 on, 2 off cycles, and they sound interesting. I have sketched out a plan that looks like this:
Week 1:
400 mgs of NPP
400 mgs of Masteron Di-Propionate
Weeks 2 and 3:
400 mgs of NPP
400 mgs of Masteron Di-Propionate
200 mgs of Test Prop
2 weeks off from injects, take proviron (20 mgs per day), nolvadex (20 mgs per day).
Then repeat, except only running the NPP and masteron for two weeks on the second time around, with a test taper in the third week.
Any thoughts, input, criticism welcome, as I am not sure I have a real great grasp on the theory behind the short cycles. I also have some halo that I was thinking about taking at 20 mgs per workout day and 10 mgs on off days, when I was not injecting. One concern: should I be taking the proviron and nolvadex during the off weeks?
Thanks.
That´s not a 3 week cycle - that´s a never-ending cycle - I will easily take 2 weeks for the steroids to clear your system (even though you are using short esters) so just in time for effectively going off cycle you start blasting again.
Check out the articles by Bill Roberts on meso-rx.com for effective 2 week cycles.
Thanks. That clears up a lot of junk for me.
Just out of curiosity, why not run the Test Prop during the 1st week?
[quote]Schmazz wrote:
Just out of curiosity, why not run the Test Prop during the 1st week?[/quote]
Agreed, I think that prop would almost have to be a base for all short cycles. All this talk of short cycle has made me intested in trying one of my own. My thoughts are prop, tren A, anadrol and humalog for 3 weeks followed by a short test taper and IGF. Anyone ever tried something similar to this?
[quote]2thepain wrote:
Schmazz wrote:
Just out of curiosity, why not run the Test Prop during the 1st week?
Agreed, I think that prop would almost have to be a base for all short cycles. All this talk of short cycle has made me intested in trying one of my own. My thoughts are prop, tren A, anadrol and humalog for 3 weeks followed by a short test taper and IGF. Anyone ever tried something similar to this?[/quote]
prop tren drol is a potent shorty. works well, but don’t run consecutive shorties with tren or drol. and why would you bother with a test taper? straight to standard PCT for shorties. tapers are for longer more suppressive cycles.
I may try some shorties in the future as well if I get my hands on the appropriate powder.
The main thing that has kept me away from them in the past is the cost difference.
[quote]juice20jd wrote:
2thepain wrote:
Schmazz wrote:
Just out of curiosity, why not run the Test Prop during the 1st week?
Agreed, I think that prop would almost have to be a base for all short cycles. All this talk of short cycle has made me intested in trying one of my own. My thoughts are prop, tren A, anadrol and humalog for 3 weeks followed by a short test taper and IGF. Anyone ever tried something similar to this?
prop tren drol is a potent shorty. works well, but don’t run consecutive shorties with tren or drol. and why would you bother with a test taper? straight to standard PCT for shorties. tapers are for longer more suppressive cycles.
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Good point, I guess I was thinking that even at only three weeks the test/tren/drol combo would be rather suppressive. But after you said that I would probably be fine using just nolv along with my IGF for PCT.
[quote]juice20jd wrote:
2thepain wrote:
Schmazz wrote:
Just out of curiosity, why not run the Test Prop during the 1st week?
Agreed, I think that prop would almost have to be a base for all short cycles. All this talk of short cycle has made me intested in trying one of my own. My thoughts are prop, tren A, anadrol and humalog for 3 weeks followed by a short test taper and IGF. Anyone ever tried something similar to this?
prop tren drol is a potent shorty. works well, but don’t run consecutive shorties with tren or drol. and why would you bother with a test taper? straight to standard PCT for shorties. tapers are for longer more suppressive cycles.
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Wow, what a great thread man. I'm two shots in on my 3 weeker of phenylprop/masteron with a pre-wkout 40mg dbol dose, and it's going great now! Totally agree that regular PCT is fully in order with the nature of them being so short. I just plan on using a short regimen of nolva. I am waiting on a drol/winn package, I'll probably run that as is, after two off of this one for a back to back. The great thing about the prop and shorty's is how fast they hit, I put up a significant amount of weight yesterday on box squats and RDL's with it just being the second shot day. Eod but a little twist as I'm going Mon/Wed/Fri, with nothing over the weekend as I can't get away with it. So far no problems with the extra day off and sides.
thanks you guys for all the help you've given me over the last year. Juice,lil,2the.
good luck op,
ToneBone