More Pot Propaganda...

[quote]tom63 wrote:
The problem with pot is it does have a negative effect on the brain. Anything that can cause a change in mood can have bad effects. And people do get addicted to it. The risk benefit for self medication isn’t good in my opinion.

Anti depressants can be helpful but can be difficult to get just right. A person smoking might find this to help, but with effects they did not bargain for.

Dr. Amen a M.D. who works with a lot of ADD types among other things has a very negative opinion about pot and has seen brain damage on brain scans with chronic usage.

He has found in his practice that certain anti depressants work better in certain specific cases, not just awilly nilly try this prozac or zoloft like a family doctor might.

And he’s big in favor of a healthy diet and exercise first, as long as you stay away from the bad habits and stick with your program. He has seen many people manage depression without meds, but it does take work.

I’m sorry, but I see many pot heads just seem to be damn lazy and don’t think to try aerobics and nutrition to "cure " their depression. They see this as just another way to get high. like the glass of wine a day crowd that sucks down a 12 pack for their heart and cholesterol, hahaha!

these same folk 20 years ago were using the environment to promote growing hemp for God’s sake!

I you think you are depressed get to a good doc and get some good advice. Eat clean, work out, watch sugar, caffeine, alcohol, and illegal drugs.

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I want proof of “brain damage”. I also doubt you have any or even have seen any with its primary cause rooted in THC.

One problem with illegal drugs is that they blow through the blood brain barrier very quickly and can tire out your receptors so to speak. Crank, meth, etc do this. Pot does this and can cause dependency.

I was diagnosed with add four years ago at the age of 40. I tried strattera, but he side effects were to harsh for me to tolerate, so I stopped it and tried to mange stress and my nonsense naturally.

I have to be careful about alcohol consumption and caffeine. The few times I tried pot, I got nasty, yes, nasty, like looking for a fight nasty. Pot is nothing to take lightly for many. And the last thing we need in this country is more lazy fatasses.

[quote]tom63 wrote:
One problem with illegal drugs is that they blow through the blood brain barrier very quickly and can tire out your receptors so to speak. Crank, meth, etc do this. Pot does this and can cause dependency.

I was diagnosed with add four years ago at the age of 40. I tried strattera, but he side effects were to harsh for me to tolerate, so I stopped it and tried to mange stress and my nonsense naturally.

I have to be careful about alcohol consumption and caffeine. The few times I tried pot, I got nasty, yes, nasty, like looking for a fight nasty. Pot is nothing to take lightly for many. And the last thing we need in this country is more lazy fatasses.[/quote]

Marijuana binds to cannibinoid receptors in the brain. There is nothing to “tire out”.

We aren’t talking about meth or cocaine and I am not sure why these come up when this discussion pops up.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
tom63 wrote:
The problem with pot is it does have a negative effect on the brain. Anything that can cause a change in mood can have bad effects. And people do get addicted to it. The risk benefit for self medication isn’t good in my opinion.

Anti depressants can be helpful but can be difficult to get just right. A person smoking might find this to help, but with effects they did not bargain for.

Dr. Amen a M.D. who works with a lot of ADD types among other things has a very negative opinion about pot and has seen brain damage on brain scans with chronic usage.

He has found in his practice that certain anti depressants work better in certain specific cases, not just awilly nilly try this prozac or zoloft like a family doctor might.

And he’s big in favor of a healthy diet and exercise first, as long as you stay away from the bad habits and stick with your program. He has seen many people manage depression without meds, but it does take work.

I’m sorry, but I see many pot heads just seem to be damn lazy and don’t think to try aerobics and nutrition to "cure " their depression. They see this as just another way to get high. like the glass of wine a day crowd that sucks down a 12 pack for their heart and cholesterol, hahaha!

these same folk 20 years ago were using the environment to promote growing hemp for God’s sake!

I you think you are depressed get to a good doc and get some good advice. Eat clean, work out, watch sugar, caffeine, alcohol, and illegal drugs.

I want proof of “brain damage”. I also doubt you have any or even have seen any with its primary cause rooted in THC.[/quote]

You can see evidence of decreased activity in SPECT studies with both short term and long term usage affecting cerebral blood flow. The use the SPECT scans to look at level of activity in the brain. These scans have showed decreased function in both cases in the prefrontal cortex, temporal lobes.

I’m sure you know that the prefrontal area is important in reasoning and changes in the temporal lobe can affect memory, motivation, and learning.

And isn’t that the old don’t smoke pot warning stuff. These scans are more sophisticated compared to 20 years ago and can show much more detail than at that time. Kind of how MRIs have improved.

Like it or not, if it does something, it has an effect. The more you do, the more the effect, just like booze. I doubt a joint once a week will do much, just like light drinking, but if you are prone to addiction with a certain substance, any might be to much.

If pot had not long term effects, we wouldn’t refer to certain people as “fried”.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
tom63 wrote:
One problem with illegal drugs is that they blow through the blood brain barrier very quickly and can tire out your receptors so to speak. Crank, meth, etc do this. Pot does this and can cause dependency.

I was diagnosed with add four years ago at the age of 40. I tried strattera, but he side effects were to harsh for me to tolerate, so I stopped it and tried to mange stress and my nonsense naturally.

I have to be careful about alcohol consumption and caffeine. The few times I tried pot, I got nasty, yes, nasty, like looking for a fight nasty. Pot is nothing to take lightly for many. And the last thing we need in this country is more lazy fatasses.

Marijuana binds to cannibinoid receptors in the brain. There is nothing to “tire out”.

We aren’t talking about meth or cocaine and I am not sure why these come up when this discussion pops up.[/quote]

Tire out isn’t the right way to say it, but many of these substances bind faster and harder producing more of an effect than is needed by meds. People like getting high and in the process of self medicating, it’s easy to go overboard into the high as opposed to functioning.

I’d trust an exercise program and good clean eating over smoking pot, if I was down first. The I would try some herbal remedies like SaME or St. John’s Wort first before an anti depressant.

And if this wasn’t doing it, I would try to get a specific diagnosis as to what drug to try how, not just pop into the family doctor.

[quote]tom63 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
tom63 wrote:
The problem with pot is it does have a negative effect on the brain. Anything that can cause a change in mood can have bad effects. And people do get addicted to it. The risk benefit for self medication isn’t good in my opinion.

Anti depressants can be helpful but can be difficult to get just right. A person smoking might find this to help, but with effects they did not bargain for.

Dr. Amen a M.D. who works with a lot of ADD types among other things has a very negative opinion about pot and has seen brain damage on brain scans with chronic usage.

He has found in his practice that certain anti depressants work better in certain specific cases, not just awilly nilly try this prozac or zoloft like a family doctor might.

And he’s big in favor of a healthy diet and exercise first, as long as you stay away from the bad habits and stick with your program. He has seen many people manage depression without meds, but it does take work.

I’m sorry, but I see many pot heads just seem to be damn lazy and don’t think to try aerobics and nutrition to "cure " their depression. They see this as just another way to get high. like the glass of wine a day crowd that sucks down a 12 pack for their heart and cholesterol, hahaha!

these same folk 20 years ago were using the environment to promote growing hemp for God’s sake!

I you think you are depressed get to a good doc and get some good advice. Eat clean, work out, watch sugar, caffeine, alcohol, and illegal drugs.

I want proof of “brain damage”. I also doubt you have any or even have seen any with its primary cause rooted in THC.

You can see evidence of decreased activity in SPECT studies with both short term and long term usage affecting cerebral blood flow. The use the SPECT scans to look at level of activity in the brain. These scans have showed decreased function in both cases in the prefrontal cortex, temporal lobes.

I’m sure you know that the prefrontal area is important in reasoning and changes in the temporal lobe can affect memory, motivation, and learning.

And isn’t that the old don’t smoke pot warning stuff. These scans are more sophisticated compared to 20 years ago and can show much more detail than at that time. Kind of how MRIs have improved.

Like it or not, if it does something, it has an effect. The more you do, the more the effect, just like booze. I doubt a joint once a week will do much, just like light drinking, but if you are prone to addiction with a certain substance, any might be to much.

If pot had not long term effects, we wouldn’t refer to certain people as “fried”.

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I asked for proof of long term BRAIN DAMAGE. There is no doubt a difference in activity in the brain from short term use. I have, however, not seen much proof of decreased brain activity in long term studies AFTER cessation (read as NOT related to long term use but long term effects after the use has ended years earlier).

You keeping mentioning meth, alcohol and cocaine, all of which are PROVEN to have permanent changes in brain chemistry and cause CHEMICAL addiction (not social or habitual addiction as you alluded to earlier with marijuana).

I wish you could stay focused on this topic instead of trying (like is often seen) to relate THC to every other drug.

Let’s start here:

It would appear the doctor you mentioned earlier was INcorrect.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
tom63 wrote:
One problem with illegal drugs is that they blow through the blood brain barrier very quickly and can tire out your receptors so to speak. Crank, meth, etc do this. Pot does this and can cause dependency.

I was diagnosed with add four years ago at the age of 40. I tried strattera, but he side effects were to harsh for me to tolerate, so I stopped it and tried to mange stress and my nonsense naturally.

I have to be careful about alcohol consumption and caffeine. The few times I tried pot, I got nasty, yes, nasty, like looking for a fight nasty. Pot is nothing to take lightly for many. And the last thing we need in this country is more lazy fatasses.

Marijuana binds to cannibinoid receptors in the brain. There is nothing to “tire out”.

We aren’t talking about meth or cocaine and I am not sure why these come up when this discussion pops up.[/quote]

Just making the point that drugs or substances have and effect by binding to receptors.

I don’t think pot is as mild as some think, just as I think that alcohol is serious. why one is illegal and the other isn’t is based in some racist laws instituted in the 20s and 30s in my opinion, but that’s a different story and topic.

Just don’t kid yourself that pot is nothing. Any drug is dosage dependent. I just don’t like kids doing any kind of drug, primarily because their brain has not fully matured.

If you’re grown up and smoke very infrequently, I doubt that will have any effect more than an occasional beer. but then again, a certain leval of alcohol consumption will cause negative effects on the brain also.

[quote]tom63 wrote:

Just making the point that drugs or substances have and effect by binding to receptors.[/quote]

Yes, and we know what these receptors are…and interestingly enough, they seem almost made to bind to this substance.

I don’t smoke at all and we aren’t talking about kids.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
tom63 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
tom63 wrote:
The problem with pot is it does have a negative effect on the brain. Anything that can cause a change in mood can have bad effects. And people do get addicted to it. The risk benefit for self medication isn’t good in my opinion.

Anti depressants can be helpful but can be difficult to get just right. A person smoking might find this to help, but with effects they did not bargain for.

Dr. Amen a M.D. who works with a lot of ADD types among other things has a very negative opinion about pot and has seen brain damage on brain scans with chronic usage.

He has found in his practice that certain anti depressants work better in certain specific cases, not just awilly nilly try this prozac or zoloft like a family doctor might.

And he’s big in favor of a healthy diet and exercise first, as long as you stay away from the bad habits and stick with your program. He has seen many people manage depression without meds, but it does take work.

I’m sorry, but I see many pot heads just seem to be damn lazy and don’t think to try aerobics and nutrition to "cure " their depression. They see this as just another way to get high. like the glass of wine a day crowd that sucks down a 12 pack for their heart and cholesterol, hahaha!

these same folk 20 years ago were using the environment to promote growing hemp for God’s sake!

I you think you are depressed get to a good doc and get some good advice. Eat clean, work out, watch sugar, caffeine, alcohol, and illegal drugs.

I want proof of “brain damage”. I also doubt you have any or even have seen any with its primary cause rooted in THC.

You can see evidence of decreased activity in SPECT studies with both short term and long term usage affecting cerebral blood flow. The use the SPECT scans to look at level of activity in the brain. These scans have showed decreased function in both cases in the prefrontal cortex, temporal lobes.

I’m sure you know that the prefrontal area is important in reasoning and changes in the temporal lobe can affect memory, motivation, and learning.

And isn’t that the old don’t smoke pot warning stuff. These scans are more sophisticated compared to 20 years ago and can show much more detail than at that time. Kind of how MRIs have improved.

Like it or not, if it does something, it has an effect. The more you do, the more the effect, just like booze. I doubt a joint once a week will do much, just like light drinking, but if you are prone to addiction with a certain substance, any might be to much.

If pot had not long term effects, we wouldn’t refer to certain people as “fried”.

I asked for proof of long term BRAIN DAMAGE. There is no doubt a difference in activity in the brain from short term use. I have, however, not seen much proof of decreased brain activity in long term studies AFTER cessation (read as NOT related to long term use but long term effects after the use has ended years earlier).

You keep mentioned meth, alcohol and cocaine, all of which are PROVEN to have permanent changes in brain chemistry and cause CHEMICAL addiction (not social or habitual addiction as you alluded to earlier with marijuana).

I wish you could stay focused on this topic instead of trying (like is often seen) to relate THC to every other drug.[/quote]

Sorry this info is from the doctor’s own practice, not a specific peer reviewed article, but there are a whole bunch if you google long term effects of marijuana usage. It took me like two seconds to google it.

Hey, if you like smoking dope or not, you’re a big boy and you can do what you like. It doesn’t matter to me. i only care about my three kids. though I personally saw some bad effects in my sister in law who at 26 just got here driver’s license. and is currently doing nothing. i know it’s a sample size of one, but it’s not like she has a fire under her ass and is the brainy type.

[quote]tom63 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
tom63 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
tom63 wrote:
The problem with pot is it does have a negative effect on the brain. Anything that can cause a change in mood can have bad effects. And people do get addicted to it. The risk benefit for self medication isn’t good in my opinion.

Anti depressants can be helpful but can be difficult to get just right. A person smoking might find this to help, but with effects they did not bargain for.

Dr. Amen a M.D. who works with a lot of ADD types among other things has a very negative opinion about pot and has seen brain damage on brain scans with chronic usage.

He has found in his practice that certain anti depressants work better in certain specific cases, not just awilly nilly try this prozac or zoloft like a family doctor might.

And he’s big in favor of a healthy diet and exercise first, as long as you stay away from the bad habits and stick with your program. He has seen many people manage depression without meds, but it does take work.

I’m sorry, but I see many pot heads just seem to be damn lazy and don’t think to try aerobics and nutrition to "cure " their depression. They see this as just another way to get high. like the glass of wine a day crowd that sucks down a 12 pack for their heart and cholesterol, hahaha!

these same folk 20 years ago were using the environment to promote growing hemp for God’s sake!

I you think you are depressed get to a good doc and get some good advice. Eat clean, work out, watch sugar, caffeine, alcohol, and illegal drugs.

I want proof of “brain damage”. I also doubt you have any or even have seen any with its primary cause rooted in THC.

You can see evidence of decreased activity in SPECT studies with both short term and long term usage affecting cerebral blood flow. The use the SPECT scans to look at level of activity in the brain. These scans have showed decreased function in both cases in the prefrontal cortex, temporal lobes.

I’m sure you know that the prefrontal area is important in reasoning and changes in the temporal lobe can affect memory, motivation, and learning.

And isn’t that the old don’t smoke pot warning stuff. These scans are more sophisticated compared to 20 years ago and can show much more detail than at that time. Kind of how MRIs have improved.

Like it or not, if it does something, it has an effect. The more you do, the more the effect, just like booze. I doubt a joint once a week will do much, just like light drinking, but if you are prone to addiction with a certain substance, any might be to much.

If pot had not long term effects, we wouldn’t refer to certain people as “fried”.

I asked for proof of long term BRAIN DAMAGE. There is no doubt a difference in activity in the brain from short term use. I have, however, not seen much proof of decreased brain activity in long term studies AFTER cessation (read as NOT related to long term use but long term effects after the use has ended years earlier).

You keep mentioned meth, alcohol and cocaine, all of which are PROVEN to have permanent changes in brain chemistry and cause CHEMICAL addiction (not social or habitual addiction as you alluded to earlier with marijuana).

I wish you could stay focused on this topic instead of trying (like is often seen) to relate THC to every other drug.

Sorry this info is from the doctor’s own practice, not a specific peer reviewed article, but there are a whole bunch if you google long term effects of marijuana usage. It took me like two seconds to google it.

Hey, if you like smoking dope or not, you’re a big boy and you can do what you like. It doesn’t matter to me. i only care about my three kids. though I personally saw some bad effects in my sister in law who at 26 just got here driver’s license. and is currently doing nothing. i know it’s a sample size of one, but it’s not like she has a fire under her ass and is the brainy type.

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I can see why you were diagnosed with ADD.

Seriously, Tom63 I respect the effort but it’s an utter fail.

haha i read this yesterday and was calling bullshit. Interesting…google news has this article: New Federal Report on Marijuana Use is Misleading, Groups Say - Salem-News.Com

Holy fuck Tom, do you just blindly accept what the government tells you?

What we need is a system that makes a distinction between hard and soft drugs.

My idea for weed? Not the perfect system, but better than lumping the supply of weed with P.

[quote]- Minimum of 20 years old to use.

  • Make it illegal to drive etc. under it’s influence (don’t know about you lot, but that ain’t a crime in NZ. Using is though). Think of it like alcohol use.

  • Make it legal to grow small amounts for personal use in conjunction with the next idea.

  • Hand out licenses to grow. One for personal use, another for distribution.

  • Make money on the taxation of distributed weed and pump it into the education and healthcare sectors (why not?)

  • Make sure people use a high quality vaporizer by introducing legislation for minimum standards of vaporizer.[/quote]

Note that I’m not a fan of Joints or pipes.

[quote]tom63 wrote:
The problem with pot is it does have a negative effect on the brain. Anything that can cause a change in mood can have bad effects. And people do get addicted to it. The risk benefit for self medication isn’t good in my opinion.

Anti depressants can be helpful but can be difficult to get just right. A person smoking might find this to help, but with effects they did not bargain for.

Dr. Amen a M.D. who works with a lot of ADD types among other things has a very negative opinion about pot and has seen brain damage on brain scans with chronic usage.

He has found in his practice that certain anti depressants work better in certain specific cases, not just awilly nilly try this prozac or zoloft like a family doctor might.

And he’s big in favor of a healthy diet and exercise first, as long as you stay away from the bad habits and stick with your program. He has seen many people manage depression without meds, but it does take work.

I’m sorry, but I see many pot heads just seem to be damn lazy and don’t think to try aerobics and nutrition to "cure " their depression. They see this as just another way to get high. like the glass of wine a day crowd that sucks down a 12 pack for their heart and cholesterol, hahaha!

these same folk 20 years ago were using the environment to promote growing hemp for God’s sake!

I you think you are depressed get to a good doc and get some good advice. Eat clean, work out, watch sugar, caffeine, alcohol, and illegal drugs.

[/quote]

I’m trying really hard to think of a way to respond to your post. From personal experience of over thirty years of heavy pot smoking. I have never been depressed. I have zero mental disabilities. As for lazy, dude you couldn’t keep up with me on your best day, on my worst day. You have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about.

If you are looking to be the new poster boy for the war on drugs, I think you’re on the right track. As for having a clue, you FAIL!!!

Common Marijuana Myths Debunked

1. Marijuana causes brain damage

The most celebrated study that claims to show brain damage is the rhesus monkey study of Dr. Robert Heath, done in the late 1970s. This study was reviewed by a distinguished panel of scientists sponsored by the Institute of Medicine and the National Academy of Sciences. Their results were published under the title, Marijuana and Health in 1982. Heath’s work was sharply criticized for its insufficient sample size (only four monkeys), its failure to control experimental bias, and the misidentification of normal monkey brain structure as “damaged”. Actual studies of human populations of marijuana users have shown no evidence of brain damage. For example, two studies from 1977, published in the Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA) showed no evidence of brain damage in heavy users of marijuana. That same year, the American Medical Association (AMA) officially came out in favor of decriminalizing marijuana. That’s not the sort of thing you’d expect if the AMA thought marijuana damaged the brain.

2. Marijuana damages the reproductive system

This claim is based chiefly on the work of Dr. Gabriel Nahas, who experimented with tissue (cells) isolated in petri dishes, and the work of researchers who dosed animals with near-lethal amounts of cannabinoids (i.e., the intoxicating part of marijuana). Nahas’ generalizations from his petri dishes to human beings have been rejected by the scientific community as being invalid. In the case of the animal experiments, the animals that survived their ordeal returned to normal within 30 days of the end of the experiment. Studies of actual human populations have failed to demonstrate that marijuana adversely affects the reproductive system.

3. Marijuana is a “gateway” drug-it leads to hard drugs

This is one of the more persistent myths. A real world example of what happens when marijuana is readily available can be found in Holland. The Dutch partially legalized marijuana in the 1970s. Since then, hard drug use-heroin and cocaine-have DECLINED substantially. If marijuana really were a gateway drug, one would have expected use of hard drugs to have gone up, not down. This apparent “negative gateway” effect has also been observed in the United States. Studies done in the early 1970s showed a negative correlation between use of marijuana and use of alcohol. A 1993 Rand Corporation study that compared drug use in states that had decriminalized marijuana versus those that had not, found that where marijuana was more available-the states that had decriminalized-hard drug abuse as measured by emergency room episodes decreased. In short, what science and actual experience tell us is that marijuana tends to substitute for the much more dangerous hard drugs like alcohol, cocaine, and heroin.

4. Marijuana suppresses the immune system

Like the studies claiming to show damage to the reproductive system, this myth is based on studies where animals were given extremely high-in many cases, near-lethal-doses of cannabinoids. These results have never been duplicated in human beings. Interestingly, two studies done in 1978 and one done in 1988 showed that hashish and marijuana may have actually stimulated the immune system in the people studied.

5. Marijuana is much more dangerous than tobacco

Smoked marijuana contains about the same amount of carcinogens as does an equivalent amount of tobacco. It should be remembered, however, that a heavy tobacco smoker consumes much more tobacco than a heavy marijuana smoker consumes marijuana. This is because smoked tobacco, with a 90% addiction rate, is the most addictive of all drugs while marijuana is less addictive than caffeine. Two other factors are important. The first is that paraphernalia laws directed against marijuana users make it difficult to smoke safely. These laws make water pipes and bongs, which filter some of the carcinogens out of the smoke, illegal and, hence, unavailable. The second is that, if marijuana were legal, it would be more economical to have cannabis drinks like bhang (a traditional drink in the Middle East) or tea which are totally non-carcinogenic. This is in stark contrast with “smokeless” tobacco products like snuff which can cause cancer of the mouth and throat. When all of these facts are taken together, it can be clearly seen that the reverse is true: marijuana is much SAFER than tobacco.

6. Legal marijuana would cause carnage on the highways

Although marijuana, when used to intoxication, does impair performance in a manner similar to alcohol, actual studies of the effect of marijuana on the automobile accident rate suggest that it poses LESS of a hazard than alcohol. When a random sample of fatal accident victims was studied, it was initially found that marijuana was associated with RELATIVELY as many accidents as alcohol. In other words, the number of accident victims intoxicated on marijuana relative to the number of marijuana users in society gave a ratio similar to that for accident victims intoxicated on alcohol relative to the total number of alcohol users. However, a closer examination of the victims revealed that around 85% of the people intoxicated on marijuana WERE ALSO INTOXICATED ON ALCOHOL. For people only intoxicated on marijuana, the rate was much lower than for alcohol alone. This finding has been supported by other research using completely different methods. For example, an economic analysis of the effects of decriminalization on marijuana usage found that states that had reduced penalties for marijuana possession experienced a rise in marijuana use and a decline in alcohol use with the result that fatal highway accidents decreased. This would suggest that, far from causing “carnage”, legal marijuana might actually save lives.

7. Marijuana “flattens” human brainwaves

This is an out-and-out lie perpetrated by the Partnership for a Drug-Free America. A few years ago, they ran a TV ad that purported to show, first, a normal human brainwave, and second, a flat brainwave from a 14-year-old “on marijuana”. When researchers called up the TV networks to complain about this commercial, the Partnership had to pull it from the air. It seems that the Partnership faked the flat “marijuana brainwave”. In reality, marijuana has the effect of slightly INCREASING alpha wave activity. Alpha waves are associated with meditative and relaxed states which are, in turn, often associated with human creativity.

8. Marijuana is more potent today than in the past

This myth is the result of bad data. The researchers who made the claim of increased potency used as their baseline the THC content of marijuana seized by police in the early 1970s. Poor storage of this marijuana in non-air conditioned evidence rooms caused it to deteriorate and decline in potency before any chemical assay was performed. Contemporaneous, independent assays of unseized “street” marijuana from the early 1970s showed a potency equivalent to that of modern “street” marijuana. Actually, the most potent form of this drug that was generally available was sold legally in the 1920s and 1930s by the pharmaceutical company Smith-Klein under the name, “American Cannabis”.

9. Marijuana impairs short-term memory

This is true but misleading. Any impairment of short-term memory disappears when one is no longer under the influence of marijuana. Often, the short-term memory effect is paired with a reference to Dr. Heath’s poor rhesus monkeys to imply that the condition is permanent.

10. Marijuana lingers in the body like DDT

This is also true but misleading. Cannabinoids are fat soluble as are innumerable nutrients and, yes, some poisons like DDT. For example, the essential nutrient, Vitamin A, is fat soluble but one never hears people who favor marijuana prohibition making this comparison.

11. There are over a thousand chemicals in marijuana smoke

Again, true but misleading. The 31 August 1990 issue of the magazine Science notes that of the over 800 volatile chemicals present in roasted COFFEE, only 21 have actually been tested on animals and 16 of these cause cancer in rodents. Yet, coffee remains legal and is generally considered fairly safe.

12. No one has ever died of a marijuana overdose

This is true. It was put in to see if you are paying attention. Animal tests have revealed that extremely high doses of cannabinoids are needed to have lethal effect. This has led scientists to conclude that the ratio of the amount of cannabinoids necessary to get a person intoxicated (i.e., stoned) relative to the amount necessary to kill them is 1 to 40,000. In other words, to overdose, you would have to consume 40,000 times as much marijuana as you needed to get stoned. In contrast, the ratio for alcohol varies between 1 to 4 and 1 to 10. It is easy to see how upwards of 5000 people die from alcohol overdoses every year and no one EVER dies of marijuana overdoses.

Original Source:

http://www.norml.org.nz/page25.html

Man I wish you were wrong.

Only disagree with the “People stopped thinking for themselves decades ago.”

I think people have always been sheep…
Dave Grossman has said that people are 98% sheep and 1% are wolves and the last 1% are sheep dogs…

[quote]Professor X wrote:

I think you give the general public WAY too much credit. Most people believe nearly everything they read, especially in the news.

This article will have the desired effect of causing parents to think that marijuana CAUSES depression when the truth is, many teens seem to experience depression no matter what (not to mention the HUGE number of adults who are on anti-depressants currently and marijuana has shit to do with it).

Further, the use of “the kids” to get political agendas across seems to work most of the time. People stopped thinking for themselves decades ago.

Our government seems to have no problem with depression as long as pharmaceutical companies are in charge of the medication for it. It is that “self medication” they want to prevent.[/quote]

[quote]tom63 wrote:
One problem with illegal drugs is that they blow through the blood brain barrier very quickly [/quote]

And legal drugs dont?

Maybe the brain secretly keeps up with drug laws and changes what it does based on whats on the books in your current location.

That might explain why people have been smoking weed for hundreds, if not thousands of years with no reported negative side effects, but in the United States, pot causes that terrible reefer madness where you eat junk food, play Grand Tourismo, and take part in stupid politically motivated studies aiming to prove how bad weed is.

[quote]Makavali wrote:
All that good stuff…[/quote]

Thanks, Makavali, you’ve pretty much nailed it, although it’s not your original content, there’s just too many people that lope things like coke, meth, and all that other bullshit with marijuana. Hopefully a few people will actually read the explanations to these myths.