More on the War on Drugs

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

It’s obvious you never smoked pot before, you would have to smoke pounds of leaves to equal the effects of a gram of bud and never get there.

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What on earth are you talking about? You just quoted me saying the same thing that you said. I said pot smokers smoke sinsemilla not leaves. The reason they don’t smoke leaves is because they contain hardly any cannibinoids. If you can’t follow what I’m saying don’t bother.[/quote]

Recommending people smoke the leaves rather than bud is like suggesting people
eat the wood from the tree rather than the fruit in order to lose weight
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Exactly. And when did I suggest people should smoke leaf instead of bud? You need to work on your comprehension skills.[/quote]

then , why bring it up ?

This is a great editorial

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
and claims Paranoia as being the damage
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Pitt, this is a topic we likely agree on more than we disagree on (War on Drugs), I do want to say though, after years of heavy use… All weed does now is make me ultra paranoid and incapable of paying attention to anything for more than 7-8 seconds.

Getting high sucks.

I’m not saying my personal experience trumps anything, just throwing it out there that it isn’t make believe.

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
and claims Paranoia as being the damage
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Pitt, this is a topic we likely agree on more than we disagree on (War on Drugs), I do want to say though, after years of heavy use… All weed does now is make me ultra paranoid and incapable of paying attention to anything for more than 7-8 seconds.

Getting high sucks.

I’m not saying my personal experience trumps anything, just throwing it out there that it isn’t make believe. [/quote]

I feel your pain:) , They have made big strides in understanding weed and it’s effects as of late . A combination of CBD along with THC rolls back the Paranoia . I like the video becauses he is talking about 100 billion dollars or if my math is correct 1/10 of a trillion :slight_smile:

Just curious do you consume alcohol ?

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

Just curious do you consume alcohol ?[/quote]

Yes. Not often, and not in excess anymore, but yeah.

My biggest issue with the legalization of weed is the same government that turned a profit putting people in prison for this is now going to turn around and turn a profit for selling it to you…

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

Just curious do you consume alcohol ?[/quote]

Yes. Not often, and not in excess anymore, but yeah.

My biggest issue with the legalization of weed is the same government that turned a profit putting people in prison for this is now going to turn around and turn a profit for selling it to you…

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Profiting from it is so superior that penalizing your self for it 1/10 a trillion dollars , that is a lot year after year

Truth better than fiction

All drugs should be legal. The money used to combat drugs should be used for treatment and social services. All victimless crimes should be legal such as attempting suicide, prostitution, gambling et al. Alcohol is as bad as many drugs, people already abuse legal prescriptions, and porn is as bad as whores. Where’s the issue. The reduction in violent crime outweighs the zombies who will OD. Oh there will be plenty of addicts, but it will pale in comparison to da drug wars.

There is a little irony here , I am a careful observer of AZ Republic and I never saw this in the news , think that was intentional

[quote]NorCal916 wrote:
All drugs should be legal. [/quote]

Yes, a massive heroin epidemic would be highly beneficial for society. And freely available heroin and crack would do wonders for the black community for example. And freely available narcotics would not increase the number of people on the welfare roles. Making heroin freely available would not cause huge numbers of overdose deaths either. Nor would it find its way into schools and turn vast numbers of children into addicts. Nor would there be huge increases in motor vehicle accidents or workplace accidents. And if heroin, crack, amphetamines and powerful hallucinogenic drugs were freely available there would definitely not be huge numbers of brain dead junkies everywhere. In short, it would be highly beneficial for society on every level.

“homosexuality, dope, immorality in general: these are the enemies of strong societies. That’s why the Communists and left-wingers are pushing it.” - Richard M. Nixon 1971 Watergate tapes

time has taught us nothing

[quote]SexMachine wrote:
“homosexuality, dope, immorality in general: these are the enemies of strong societies. That’s why the Communists and left-wingers are pushing it.” - Richard M. Nixon 1971 Watergate tapes[/quote]

SMH

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]NorCal916 wrote:
All drugs should be legal. [/quote]

Yes, a massive heroin epidemic would be highly beneficial for society. And freely available heroin and crack would do wonders for the black community for example. And freely available narcotics would not increase the number of people on the welfare roles. Making heroin freely available would not cause huge numbers of overdose deaths either. Nor would it find its way into schools and turn vast numbers of children into addicts. Nor would there be huge increases in motor vehicle accidents or workplace accidents. And if heroin, crack, amphetamines and powerful hallucinogenic drugs were freely available there would definitely not be huge numbers of brain dead junkies everywhere. In short, it would be highly beneficial for society on every level.[/quote]

Look at it this way: If ALL drugs were legal, then stupid people would do them. They would lose their jobs and they would resort to prostitution. Which would lead to an exponential increase in unwanted pregnancies (gotta make wider available abortions now) and an exponential increase in deadly STDs and provide an environment for NEW STDs, the likes of which make AIDS look like the common cold. There would also be an increase in crime, as struggling addicts resorted to violence. That would mean that ONLY conservatives who support second amendment rights would realistically survive. No more tree hugging liberals who want to hug criminals instead of shoot them! Smart people would figure out ways to avoid the crack heads and protect themselves while stupid people pay the price for their stupidity.

In other words, it would be a Malthusian event that, for the most part, would target WEAK and STUPID PEOPLE everywhere instead a geographically based mass extinction. Sure there would be some collateral damage, but that’s fine - we accept collateral damage for most of our policies.

I can’t believe any of you guys would have a problem with this - intelligent, wealthy Conservatives would inherit the earth!

/sarcasm

[quote]NorCal916 wrote:
All drugs should be legal. The money used to combat drugs should be used for treatment and social services. All victimless crimes should be legal such as attempting suicide, prostitution, gambling et al. Alcohol is as bad as many drugs, people already abuse legal prescriptions, and porn is as bad as whores. Where’s the issue. The reduction in violent crime outweighs the zombies who will OD. Oh there will be plenty of addicts, but it will pale in comparison to da drug wars. [/quote]

Prostitution is not a victimless crime. A recent sting where I live resulted in the recovery of a 16 year old girl who had been prostituted out since she was 13. Her last pimp, who also was busted, admitted he had just bought her from another pimp. She was not doing it of her own free will. Over 150 juvenile girls were recovered nationwide that week during prostitution stings.

[quote]cwill1973 wrote:

[quote]NorCal916 wrote:
All drugs should be legal. The money used to combat drugs should be used for treatment and social services. All victimless crimes should be legal such as attempting suicide, prostitution, gambling et al. Alcohol is as bad as many drugs, people already abuse legal prescriptions, and porn is as bad as whores. Where’s the issue. The reduction in violent crime outweighs the zombies who will OD. Oh there will be plenty of addicts, but it will pale in comparison to da drug wars. [/quote]

Prostitution is not a victimless crime. A recent sting where I live resulted in the recovery of a 16 year old girl who had been prostituted out since she was 13. Her last pimp, who also was busted, admitted he had just bought her from another pimp. She was not doing it of her own free will. Over 150 juvenile girls were recovered nationwide that week during prostitution stings.
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Like all Industry forced underground , the lack of regulation creates the dangers , Where Prostitution and drugs are legal and regulated they appear to have less problems .

Drugs could be cheaper (Less crime to procure money), pure (mitigate bad side effects ) with a consistent quality (less overdoes)

I am guessing the Netherlands problems with prostitution stem more from unregulated Immigration than the industry of prostitution

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

I am guessing [/quote]

You should probably preface all of your posts with this clause.

[quote]cwill1973 wrote:
Prostitution is not a victimless crime. A recent sting where I live resulted in the recovery of a 16 year old girl who had been prostituted out since she was 13. Her last pimp, who also was busted, admitted he had just bought her from another pimp. She was not doing it of her own free will. Over 150 juvenile girls were recovered nationwide that week during prostitution stings.
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Prostitution is definitely a victimless “crime.” Enslaving another against her will is not. Prostitution is engaging in sexual relations for some form of payment or benefit. If someone is doing something against her own free will or can be bought and sold, she is a slave.

[quote]Varqanir wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

I am guessing [/quote]

You should probably preface all of your posts with this clause.[/quote]

IMG that all of us probably should.

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Varqanir wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

I am guessing [/quote]

You should probably preface all of your posts with this clause.[/quote]

IMG that all of us probably should.[/quote]

I am guessing you may be right.