Didnt read any other replies but just off the question alone in my opinion it is much more important to brace even if with shitty form than to keep beautiful form but not brace at all.
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How the F can someone deadlift any considerable weight without bracing?
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I am gaining weight,just not moving up a weight class. I weigh around 168lbs right now and will go up to 180-185lbs from which i will do a small cut to get a bit leaner.
Have considered it,but not sure as theres nothing particular pointing at the fact that ive reached my limit.
Fair enough.
no itās not. I actually gave you credit for an additional 50 lbs that you could potentially add to your deadlift without gaining much weight. 250 is unreasonable dude. Iāve been in this lifting game a loooooong time. I know a lot of elite lifters. Iām personal friends with world record holders. Iād be willing to bet every dollar in my bank account youāre not going to add 250 lbs to your deadlift without gaining bodyweight. In fact, Iād make the same bet against adding 150. And every elite lifter I know would make the same bet.
This is going to lead to slower results. Itās not the best way to attack the situation. Youāll be much better served if youāre willing to push your bodyweight up significantly to get to the numbers you want, and then work on trimming down while maintaining strength. Building muscle takes less time than cutting fat. If youāre worried about keeping your weight down, itās gonna slow that muscle building process even more. I pushed my own weight up to 210 to push for the best numbers of my life, while competing at 198 before cutting back into the 190ās to hit the same numbers as 181.
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How much of a weight gain are we talking here? Because i am currently doing a bulk and intend to gain 15-20lbs while still staying in the same 183lbs weight class(i currently weigh 168lbs). So if thats what youre talking about im already doing it. But maybe you mean to eat everything in sight and just gain weight until i lift the desired amount of weight? I know i cant lift much more in my bw right now,but in my weight class i still have room to grow.
gotcha. I assumed you were in the 165 class. my mistake.
if you gain 20 lbs of bodyweight, and you become very proficient in the deadlift, I could see that translating to getting you into the 700 deadlift range, if everything falls right for you.
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No problem,thanks. Iāll try hard to incorporate everything everyone here told me to and strengthen my deadlift and hopefully make it.
This is a nasty thing to sayā¦ you donāt know what he can achieve until he puts in the work and see where it leads
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Just to make sure itās clear, because it got lost in everything- learn to brace.
Everything becomes more efficient and reduces the risk of injury.
I donāt care if youāre deadlifting 900 pounds or 225. Learn to brace.
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Funny how the dude who thinks arching on bench is cheating is also resistant to keeping a neutral spine on deadliftā¦
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OH YEA?!?!?
Height: 5 feet
Age:23
Best Squat: 380
GPA: 3.0
Gas in my car: 1/4 tank
How many times I cried today: once
How much money is in my bank account: I have no idea!
Beat. That.
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Guinea Pigs: 3
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So just thinking on this a bitā¦ youāve managed to get about a 90-lb advantage by rounding your back from the outset and bracing (thatās the number I remember and I donāt feel like scrolling back up to check it). Assuming, and thatās a big word, that youāll always keep at least some advantage in being a bit rounded because of whatever mechanism (and I donāt care to argue about what it isā¦ letās just say there is one) you get into the risk vs reward side of the conversation. So hereās my thoughtā¦ It will do you no good to get crippled up in the gym. Thereās no point in pulling in a compromised position in the gym when thereās nothing but pride on the line. Think Pulp Fiction. āFuck pride.ā Train in the most optimal way which is least likely to injure you so that you can lift longer. That would be with the lighter weight max, neutral spine, and learning how to brace properly. When you go to compete, and youāre hitting really close to the top of your weight class, then maybe you have something in your back pocket if you need it and itās worth it.
As someone whoās not necessarily the foremost authority on setting world records or being elite, those are my thoughts.
Btwā¦ wide stance squats are great, but with the way Iām built Iāll never be a deadlift god.
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Thats one of the reasons why i feel like i should concentrate on learning straight back deadlifting rather than training with rounded,because i feel like my rounded will always be stronger. I never trained rounded and within 2 weeks of using it just foe singles i managed to raise my deadlift 90lbs to an all time PR. So not training it is unlikely to hurt my rounded back deads if the time ever comes when i will need it.
But yeah i thought maybe rounded could be safer because of being able to brace more but i guess i should just learn how to brace with a straight back.
Have you ever thought of hiring an experienced coach to assess your deadlift form, troubleshoot problems, and instruct you step by step? With your goals and abilities, getting some professional instruction now in the early stages of your lifting endeavors may prevent a lifetime of injuries and inability while facilitating much success.
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I have and probably will but my only.option is an online coach which isnt the most optimal way but its good enough.
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It looks like youāre starting your flatback pull with the bar on the otherside of the gym. Thatās probably why it feels like a dog.
Anyway, looks like your lats are weak. Fix that, Iād be surprised if you didnāt feel much better with a flat back.
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Better than nothing, especially if theyāre really on top of form check videos
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