Molyneux on Incels

I think you two have different frames of mind, I think @SkyzykS will continue to be SkyzykS regardless of his atmosphere …

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As nervous and fearful of rejection as I’ve been, and still can be- the vast majority of people from virtually all strata have found me to be quite acceptable whether I do or not.

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I’m not sure why this always ends up getting personal in here, and then others start beating their chest while trying to peg the other as something lesser…

kinda dumb, really, but since you guys seem to always default to this why not I make a ‘psychoanalyze me’ thread and I can talk about all problems, failures, regrets, really open up to you warm hearted caring individuals.

You remember your story about seeing a homeless guy and feeling for the plight of men because of it? How do you see that, which could easily be a repeat drug addict and sex offender that can’t hold down a job, and feel bad for men, but see some girl showing her ass on Instagram, and not feel for the unrealistic image standards that girls are forced to live up to when their heroes are filtered Instagram celebrities? Your perspective is unforgiving with regards to women and filled to the brim with excuses for men.

This is a fair critique @flappinit . Probably because I’ve seen more women in my life mistreat men than the other way around.

Because you fired the first shot.

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But it wasn’t a free ride. And it’s not like they were going to meet Prince Charming while working there.

Does that coincide with the existence of instagram? You have a platform that was created to post pictures that could be shared with the world and surprise, that’s what people are using it for. On this forum dudes post pictures of their physiques looking to get feedback from strangers. Are they thots (and wtf is a thot? I assume it’s a woman who seeks attention.)?

I guess it beats Hooters. Is anyone forcing people to look at their pics or give them handouts?

If he could, God bless him. After all, we aren’t communists.

How does a woman mistreat you? She beat you? Raped you? Verbally abused you? Cheated on you?

Oh man it’s so common he had something happen this one time!

If I was coaching one I’d show him your posts in here and say “if this is your mindset on women you won’t have much luck.”*

*. In b4 bro you don’t even know how much pussy I’m getting hating women. I just say “you wanted to vote pay for your own fucking meal” and bam fucking her and the waitress who heard me say it.

It depends on the circles you move in. If its blue collar then you won’t find much in the way of radical feminism. Same again with retail, or finance, or scientific jobs.
Middle class, university educated, especially in the humanities then its pretty common these days everywhere in the western world. Media, entertainment, arts then feminism, gender, diversity is rampant. These areas are dominated by women, alphabet people, and neo marxists. I feel like I have entered an alternate reality when I interact with these people.

Even if a woman doesn’t class herself as a feminist, these views are so common these days they still subconsciously imbed themselves in the minds of all people, and get expressed without you even being aware most of the time.

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I don’t see it and I work at a university.

It’s a bit of the sky is falling mentality. Yes, these people exist. Some are involved in higher education and are trying to influence academics and scholarship. They will inevitably fail because they are not the best nor the brightest in their chosen fields. They also suffer from poor scholarship when it comes to their beliefs and positions. With history, for example, basing your ideas, conclusions and views on “my truth” will only go so far in academia.

What faculty are you in?

I’ve been out of the uni scene(Visual Arts) for about 20 years, but even then it was bad. Not so much in the administration and management, but in the lecturing it was rampant. It was a magnet for the deranged and the deviant. We had radical feminist lecturers. One of which was a lesbian, heroin addict who openly stated in a guest lecture that she wanted to kill all men with a uzi(no trace of irony or humour). Soon after she was hired as a full time lecturer at my campus. We had many other especially in the theory side of the course. It soon became apparent that they liked filling the minds of impressionable young woman straight from high school with promises of enlightenment from feminism. What they were really after was converting as many of them as possible to the sapphic sisterhood. They got plenty of takers too. Guess who got the best marks?

Prior to this I studied various humanities subjects, and back then PC culture had not infiltrated very much. There were plenty of loveable old fossils, who were great lecturers with a passion for their chosen subject, and a commitment to upholding high academic standards. All of them would have retired or died by now. I suspect that most of them haven’t been replaced by like minded people.
Marxist theory on class, sex, post colonialism, etc and applying them to any subject seems to take precedent to basic knowledge . People that have been educated under this system, go on to be teachers in secondary education and impart this propaganda to younger and more impressionable children, consolidating these beliefs in a society.

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I don’t teach although that may change in the near future.

My post grad work has been in modern languages and that’s the dept where I work at the moment. These things:

Don’t apply much. I don’t think any of the professors are American so that may be one reason why. They are very protective of their nations’ literary canons while also being open about their histories without being apologetic. One of the Spanish professors, I sit in on her class, referred to communism as totalitarianism without capitalism. I guess she didn’t get the memo.

I don’t doubt there are professors like the ones you describe but I also doubt just how much influence they have on scholarship. I have heard a few, very few, female students talk like they’re, I guess the word used today is woke, but they could barely speak in a way that was comprehensible.

I’m glad you are in a field where you can just focus on the immediate subject matter and not have to be concerned about extraneous politics.

I agree with what you said earlier about these type of people not being the best , nor the brightest in their chosen fields.
The humanities always seem to expect new theories on old subjects that have been extensively researched already. eg ancient history. There isn’t much new that can be written about these texts. New research now is limited to the application of postmodern theories on these texts. Looking at women’s role, gender roles, analysis of class, race, and applying them usually out of context seems to be popular. Eventually the focus goes from the original texts, and secondary sources to a study of post modern theory and how to apply it to history. They revell in deconstruction, miss any truth or beauty of the original text.

Unfortunately in such fields a critical mass of enough of these neo Marxists becomes a cult where other like minded people peer review each others work, and any dissenters are silenced by majority opinion.

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you may not even notice it, really. sometimes it’s subtle, but it is there.

it’s not like I walk around every day and point out feminists. But have a conversation with a younger girl, see what she’s about, how she thinks. you’ll soon start to notice a pattern of thought, a very specific pattern.

I think most of the people here are just out of that age range. @SkyzykS is thumping beyond the wall midwestern tang and he thinks he’s going to run into feminist nazis. lol, like come on.

Yeah, she’s just as dull as a younger dude.

You tipping a few or what?

I don’t understand a thing you wrote, and I’m not in the Midwest. I’m in Pittsburgh.

This is my issue with your statement … how do you know it’s pretty common? In what proportion is pretty common? I mean what your described is pretty specific … how prevalent is it within that group and how do you quantify it to conclude it’s pretty common?

I get that it’s a thing but I don’t know what pretty common is wrt the other demographics that can be controlled for … and so what? Is it a manufactured problem or a legitimate problem? For who? How do we know?

How do I know its pretty common. I have talked in this thread about my own experiences and observations at university. All you need to do is look and listen to virtually any media, to see how common it is and where the people who want change come from. Its primarily coming from neo Marxist lecturers, and their students. A book called Culture of Complaint, by Robert Hughes from the early 1990’s documents the rise of PC culture and feminism, and its impact on greater society. Its only gotten worse since I finished Uni.

You tube has literally thousands of clips of academics and students from the humanities discussing these issues. Nearly every conference is recorded by someone and put on youtube A search on Jordan Petersen /feminism would be a good place to start for ideas, if you haven’t got any experience. Plenty of debates are held at universities, with prominent conservative academics, or personalities that take questions from the general public(many of whom are students and teachers) The questions and responses of many of the audience members show how prevalent these ideas are.

I really envy people that don’t move in these circles and don’t directly get effected by these issues.

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So anecdotally? You did not answer my question at all. How is it quantified? In what proportions? You’re only describing availability bias …

Sounds like a crappy university.