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That is quite an apt analogy, Sir.

Yeah, I thought about this. Maybe everyone ended up with a slightly less attractive woman because the apps tend to make all girls look great, even if they’re not, but by that point the conversations they have are more meaningful than they normally would be with a girl more inline with what they’re normally attracted to, physically. Follow what I’m saying? I’m foggy today, sorry.

And I also don’t agree that most guys get over liking hot girls around 21-25 comment. I don’t think it ever goes away. You settle, but it doesn’t go away.

@Californiagrown

I agree looks aren’t everything.

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By not producing offspring?

Yeah. Just seems like some sorta natural selection/eugenics slam dunk.

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Robert Langdon was the villian in Inferno.

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I missed him. Which circle was he in?

Pride seems about right.

My point with this is around these times most guys have been in multiple relationships and have started to realize they would rather spend the rest of their life with an 8 that makes them laugh, is intelligent, seems like she would be a good mother (if wanting to have kids eventually), etc than a 10 who has none of that going on.

When I was younger I only cared about looks. I wanted to date people that would make everyone else jealous. As I got older I got over that. Obviously you still need physical attraction but as one matures they realize it’s simply a piece of everything. I got lucky with mine in terms of looks and the other things I mentioned. However as I got older I dated girls who weren’t as hot as some of the ones I did right off the bat but these women were way better to be around and share day to day life.

haha this honestly got a good chuckle out of me. Who wouldn’t be happy with an 8? I’m not sure about the trustworthiness of your reference model but I can assure you most guys in this country do not ā€˜settle’ for 8s, they’re blessed with 8s.

Most of the guys I know ended up with 7s or below. One buddy of mine that ended up with an 8-9, which everyone found it to be a shock because he was a carpenter, but then again he’s tall and hilarious and she’s a hermit that doesn’t care to do much, doesn’t work, never went to school, she’s not dumb, she just never wanted ā€˜more’ out of life and so was content with the simple things. Again, he was a lucky man.

Note: I’m only speaking in physical terms. Personality can obviously change what a person looks like to you and so forth. I’m also leaving out the guys that only now ended up getting married to much younger girls, as younger mates tend to look much better to older guys than if they were the same age.

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He was lucky because he married a person who, if she were a man, would be considered a loser? A lazy dimwit with no ambition or passion, sounds real lucky to me.

Are you implying housewives are losers?

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Did you skip the part where she doesn’t like to work and doesn’t do much? Or are you implying housewives don’t work?

Yes, because he didn’t say what she doesn’t want to do and many employees don’t like working.

The state of this thread, blimey.

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I’ll flat out say it .. housewives are losers. Straight up. Look at Peggy Bundy.

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But they still work.

I’ve seen plenty of tradesmen with attractive women.

If they make money, sure because they are still fit, somewhat gritty guys that women like. But if they’re broke working underneath someone? very tough to see that.

@zecarlo

yeah, he’s lucky. She’s funny, hot, and isn’t fucking annoying. She is a housewife, she does things around the house and takes care of what is needed. She just didn’t have a passion outside of being that. Very chill person.

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ran into a buddy from high school this past weekend. He’s a plumber. His wife is a smoke show. I’m a harsh grader when it comes to this shit; I’d give her a 8.5/10 .. and a really sweet woman to boot.

I have another buddy, electrician. same thing. smoke show wife. Actually thinking about it, I have 2 electrician buddies with smoke show wives.

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My point was in reference to your post that said your friends who met girls on dating apps were all with people who were ā€œworseā€ than they dated before. Regardless that isn’t an argument that dating apps have made things harder.

Some people are just not going to find someone for a variety of reasons. A lot of the time its unrealistic expectations. Still it’s the easiest time ever to find a significant other.