Your think-alike, greenboy, has many times offered that the US is lacking in the charms readily available other places, and particularly in Latin America.
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I donāt agree with Green on everything and in the other thread I already expressed I donāt think going overseas is some panacea for some lonely dude.
Second, His suggestion doesnāt indicate all menās desires. Why would you conclude that from some oneguyās suggestion?
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Iām regards to anything useful in the video, Molyneux also spoke of parenting and that many incels were raised in single-mother households. I believe high-investment parenting and appropriate socialization can prevent an incel being created in the first place.
I also think that the USA is already offering such charms in many cities. I worked in and still visit Bushwick occasionally, which is 65 percent Hispanic. I think for an American man moving to such a place would be easier than leaving the country altogether.
Do incels even have friends of the same sex? Because it seems like these guys run to YouTube or internet forums rather than talk to real people. How do I meet women? Maybe go out with your friends. If you have friends. If you donāt, try working that out first. Friends might know women. They might have women in their lives who know women. It might be hard, or flat out wrong, for a variety of reasons to walk up to woman in a public place or at work but if someone introduces you to someone it skips the whole approach step. Youāre not exactly a stranger either.
Wow, a reasonable post from you.
You live to see everything!
I have nothing against older virgins (is there really some sort of expiration date that must be met or else?) or men who are awkward socially.
My issue would be with those men who feel they are owed sex by women as if thatās why they exist and the misogyny that infects how they look at the world. They have a very soulless way of looking at the world and relationships. What happened to romance and love? Itās as though they want a sex doll who will also clean their room. They donāt want to have to settle for a 5, they deserve a 10. How about looking a little deeper than that? But you have these people telling them how shallow women are and how they are less intelligent. All they want is the high status guy. Which brings me to my next point.
However, I also see that it isnāt entirely their fault because you have these forums where they are exposed to negativity and YouTube āexpertsā who tell them itās everyone elseās fault (feminists, liberals, socialists, high status men, etc.). It even leads to antisemitism and racism as they get thrown in the mix of āwho should I hate?ā Seriously, get a sense of humor, and not the internet humor where you are simply insulting people with an air of superiority and trying to be more edgy than the poster before you, but an actual sense of humor. People, including women, like to be around people who can make them smile and laugh. Maybe start by learning to laugh at yourself.
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I, too, believe in the importance of parenting. It is a difficult world for children to navigate. My kid is exactly who the incels rail against. An athlete who banged his way through half of the high school. Well, guess what? Thatās not all sunshine and lollipops either.
He has individual struggles that will factor into his ability to form a healthy relationship too. All individuals do. Self described incels are not special in that regard.
I would be very curious how Molyneaux was able to measure the rates of single parent households among these incels. My guess is that it wasnāt measured, but pulled out of his ass.
The entire subject and supporting arguments seem to share that characteristic.
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Because it fits in with his whole women are emasculating men and ruining the world ideology.
Gonna lead with a disclaimer, that Iām about half fuckinā retarded and have probably missed the points that everyone has made as often as theyāve made themā¦but what else do you say to someone that wants something they donāt currently have? I ask because I am 100% genuinely curious and can think of no other response that Iād give my own children than, āImprove yourself if you are unhappy with your current situation.ā
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I was wondering where CB disappeared too. I figured he wouldnāt have crawled back into the confines of the basement yet.
I know a bunch of folks getting married or who are married that met on tinder/bumble/etc. Ie my lady on tinder and Iāll be popping the question soon.
When I was dating, I never had a problem asking girls out on the street or grocery store. Pretty easy to not be creepy, catch their eye and if they vibe back start up quick small talk. Worst case, you bomb and the girl feels wantedā¦ Still a societal win. Donāt catcall, donāt be creepy, just be socially aware, confident and exceedingly nice. That said I got most of my dates through online apps due to it being so much more efficient.
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Every guy friend of mine that met his gf = future wife on one of those apps always under achieved in the looks department in my opinion.
I think what these apps have done to a majority of men is make them self-conscious enough where if a woman swipes on them it releases such a rush they kinda lower their standards.
Not saying that is your case, just what I have noticed with others.
Maybe they were into other parts of her aside from just looks? Most guys get over that around 21-25 once theyāve had some dating experience and realize you donāt want to spend forever with a hot girl who has absolutely nothing else going on for her.
Itās still way easier to meet women now than it ever has been.
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Then your friends are doing it wrong. The online/app dating allows you to reach out to a far larger amount of women than you would have otherwise. That vastly increases your odds of meeting someone with āthe whole packageā.
Itās a simple numbers game. I can sit at home on a Monday evening in my underwear and scan through a few hundred women in less than an hour, where as before I would have had to go out to bars on a Fri/sat and had only 30-40 women available. But with the app I donāt end up hungover the next morning haha.
Take from it what you will, but sounds like your friends may have realized that looks arenāt everythingā¦ And you only make that realization after being with some hot women that have not much else going on or are crazy.
Dating apps are simply a tool to reach more women than you could otherwise. I would almost always ask them out to drinks and have an answer in the first 5 messages. It
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More importantly for his friend, I mean friends, those women realized that.
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Honestly, Iām not successful or good looking enough to get a lady that is a 10 accross the board. And thatās fine.
Now, I do have the ability to get an overall 8 (big city 8, not country 8). Personally, Iād rather take a 7 in the looks Dept and have her be funny, smart, outdoorsy, athletic, kind, and responsibleā¦ A 10 personality wise than be a 10 in the looks Dept and a 6 in personality.
The saying is true: āshow me a smoking hot lady, and Iāll show you a dude tired of fucking herā. No matter how hot, it becomes old hat after a while. There has to be a lot more there on top of sexy good looks to make a good partner for life.
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So do you think internet dating is going to save the incels?
You would think it would only take 1 generation to solve the whole problemā¦
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No. Despite what the name implies, the incels are 100% voluntarily celibate. Kinda like a vegan who starves in a pantry full of animal products.
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