My refutation is they choose not to stop, as this is easier than choosing to stop.
I am not shocked to hear that the majority of humans take the path of least resistance. That is what makes them the majority. However, within humans is the potential to accomplish great things.
This is what makes them such a miserable species: wasted potential.
True, I am a man so am biased in a sense.
However, in western society, the onus is on men to initiate relations.
For an āincelā this will be massive/permanent levels of rejection.
The equivalent for a female, would be few/no approaches.
I think the first of those 2 situations is the most destructive to someoneās psyche.
Hence, even fat, plain, undesirable women can slut themselves up and get some action.
An equivalent male cannot do this.
If a human had total control over themselves, they would rarely/ever choose destructive behaviour.
The world shows this is not the case.
Many would argue that self-destruction is the only reasonable conclusion for humans to draw.
They can? You just mentioned behaviors that people canāt control. A woman canāt automatically make herself a āslut.ā
And men can lie and deceive women into sex, which could be seen as being a slut.
Humans donāt choose self destruction in part due to evolutionary influences (so again, out of their direct, conscious control).
At the same time, humans have little total control over themselves in many senses.
Imagine a computer could read someoneās mind. Someone chosen at random is told if you think about nothing but cats for 3 minutes, you will be given $20 billion. The computer then reads their thoughts for 3 minutes.
Essentially no human could do this, as they do not even ācontrolā their own thoughts, never mind totally control their behaviours/actions.
A fat and plain woman could find sex in an average social situation easier than the equivalent male (assuming they have the same social/economic status).
Ah yes, denial of free will. Tell me more.
Pure free will does not exist.
Like I said, try and think about cats for 3 minutes straight.
You canāt do it.
We must imagine Sisyphus not thinking about cats for 3 minutes.
If pure free will existed, humans would not act in a self destructive way.
Humans have multiple actors and impulses within themselves, and are in a constant battle to control and manage them. Carl Jung is right on this.
There are innumerable factors involved in an individualās ability to manage and control these actors/impulses.
There are many examples of this.
Person A has an important exam in 10 days. Why canāt person A focus for 16 hours straight for 10 days on their exam?
Person B wants to no longer have any negative thoughts about their existence, why canāt they just āchooseā to not have negative thoughts ever again?
I significantly disagree, and in fact believe the opposite: if true free will existed, humans would ONLY act in a self destructive way.
Why?
Because existence is miserable with far more pain than pleasure, fundamentally meaningless, and ends in death.
Humans need to be given something OTHER than free will if they have any hope of surviving as a species.
With whom? Do you know whatās going on in her mind? Maybe you think because you, or some other guy, would settle for a woman you find unattractive if you were desperate or drunk enough, that it means it must be easier or her. After all, the hard part was lowering your standards.
It is unlikely you truly believe this.
Otherwise you would not have gotten married or had children, to name just two. Particularly marriage, imo.
Existence is not miserable if the other option is not existing.
You do not know that existence ends in death.
Edit:
I accept that there are circumstances where existence can be more miserable than death/not existing.
The discussion is about an Involuntary Celibate.
My view is that there are more male than female incels, because equally undesirable women can find a sexual partner easier.
As shown in phenomena such as āfat chicksā seen across social situations in the west.
Well no, of course not: I have no free will to believe it or not.
But tongue removed from cheek, the reason I donāt act on that belief IS the āsomething other than free willā I just discussed.
We can find our own reasons, in the absence of God, ala Nietzsche. We fan have our leap into faith ala Kierkegaard. We can be the absurd hero, ala Camus. We can rely on biological imperative, ala Schopenhauer. We can do so out of believe of karma, etc etc.
But those would be all the things OTHER than free will that compel humanity as a species to continue.
Because, were it purely free will that governed human action, they would cease to exist.
Correct. I believe free will is as much BS as the āself made manā.
There is a great scene in that HBO show Euphoria with a fat guy with a really really small dickā¦ hilarious scene, but also sad. You donāt think guys like that exist?