Molyneux on Incels

[T3hPwnisher]

@greenboy

You don’t think guys like that exist?

I think he could be a thin guy.

[TheCB]

Your prior post of “ah yes, denial of free will. Tell me more.”

Appeared to imply you meant that free will was all powerful.

Your subsequent posts suggest otherwise; we are in agreement.

[greenboy]

@TheCB

The family unit has been severely damaged in the west, shown in part through a huge drop in births.

Women are now married to their “career” due to feminism. They are “empowered” by their desk rather than “enslaved” to their kitchen.

Men are often kept in a permanent state of adolescence through pornography, computer games, social media, debts, dating apps etc.

There is now socially acceptable sex without consequence as a result of social norms and contraception.

The growing 21st century “incel” phenomenon is just a symptom of a broader malaise.

Increasing the GDP and power of the State are now the most important issue in many circumstances.

The dying family unit is a huge, probably fatal, problem in Western civilisation.

I kept saying this in the other thread and these folks kept trying to give me life lessons or something… it was very frustrating. Nice to see others in here besides Brick and I notice these same issues

[T3hPwnisher]

@TheCB

Appeared to imply you meant that free will was all powerful.

Negative: I wanted you to tell me more about denial of free will.

I apologize for any confusion my word usage may have caused.

[BrickHead]

I appreciate your intellect and knowledge, but do you know hardly anyone can even gain anything from your recommendations regarding philosophy? The masses do not have the intellect to absorb or disposition to utilize it. They can’t. I’m actually glad they can’t.

[T3hPwnisher]

The masses, by definition, will experience the fate of the masses.

Which is a sad fate.

[greenboy]

@T3hPwnisher

@greenboy

You don’t think guys like that exist?

I think he could be a thin guy.

Can he? 90% of the people in commercial gyms never improve despite being there 4-5 times a week.

Negative: I wanted you to tell me more about denial of free will.

no no no on god no. no debates on free will. that’s not entertaining, let’s keep it fun.

[BrickHead]

Yes, and thank you too. I was said to be radical by simply speaking of statistics on male suicide, drug use, the loneliness epidemic, and so forth. I was thinking this would be empathetic, not radical.

[T3hPwnisher]

@greenboy

Can he?

Yes.

[greenboy]

@T3hPwnisher

@greenboy

Can he?

Yes.

have you ever done something that you never succeeded at?

[zecarlo]

@TheCB

My view is that there are more male than female incels, because equally undesirable women can find a sexual partner easier.

That’s an opinion which can’t be substantiated. Also, if it is easier for a woman, we have to define easier. It might take a greater emotional toll on a woman to give herself to someone she really has no emotional investment in than it is for man to be denied sex with a stranger.

[greenboy]

@zecarlo

@TheCB

My view is that there are more male than female incels, because equally undesirable women can find a sexual partner easier.

That’s an opinion which can’t be substantiated.

Come on dude. Why do you have to be so insufferable. You damn well know this is true.

[TheCB]

The atomisation of society will increase, with ever more immigration and improving AI both playing huge roles.

The obsession with the ‘free market’ at the cost of all else in human society will lead to this.

The west is entirely about consumption and increasing the GDP.

Edit:

There is no “Conservatism” at all anymore. They are entirely beholden to rising GDP.

As for the Left, they want complete destruction of everything civilisation is built upon.

The world needs a new way forward.

[BrickHead]

I also spoke of the explosion of male incarceration rates since the 70s. I thought it would be reasonable to think “why are men cracking up?” How terrible of me. @greenboy

[zecarlo]

@BrickHead

The masses do not have the intellect to absorb or disposition to utilize it.

They lack the courage to challenge themselves, not the intellect. I’m not saying the average person can read Kant but there are books that explain his ideas in an easier format and there are places you can go to have a professor teach you.

[zecarlo]

@greenboy

You damn well know this is true.

We have different definitions of truth.

[zecarlo]

@BrickHead

I also spoke of the explosion of male incarceration rates since the 70s.

I haven’t looked into that but is it possible it’s a result of the drug war?

[TheCB]

I’ll define it.

An Involuntary Celibate = unable to find a sexual partner, even though desiring one.

It is easier for women to find a sexual partner, as men have higher sex drives and are more impulsive, and will in many cases, “fuck anything.”

Shown in phenomena such as “sluts.”

A promiscuous woman is looked down upon, as it takes nothing to open one’s legs.

An equally promiscuous man is not looked down upon, as there is an element of value connected to his conquests (either physical, social or financial).

These are not “rules of the patriarchy” either. Any sane person accepts this notion.

[BrickHead]

Conservatism has always sucked.

[BrickHead]

No, it’s not.