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[quote]WTXMMA wrote:
Welcome,WTXMMA. Tell Rex Richards to keep representin the big boys! I’m with Twin Wolves MMA(formerly Full Circle) out of Killeen/Harker Heights…we recently became affiliated under Relson Gracie(Phil Cardella). I would love to come roll with the big boy…and maybe show him some Muay Thai pointers as well :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

WELL REX HAS WON 3 OF HIS FIGHTS BY K.O. AND IS A REGULAR SPARRING PARTNER OF PAUL BUENTELLO…SO MAYBE YOU COULD LEARN A LITTLE TOO!! BUT REALLY, IF YOU EVER NEED TO TRAIN WITH A BIG MAN, WE DO CAMPS REGULARLY[/quote]

Lol…that’s was just a shout out to the fact that not many big guys are good with the hands…and feet. Rex moves really good for a big guy though…is he still at 300lbs?? I would love to come out to train with the big fella…and Buentello. Both guys are awesome. Keep me posted on those seminars. I’m sure you’re a regular on www.txmma.com.

wtxmma, i’m going to have plenty of questions about transitioning to san shou from MT i’d like to compete in it. i’ll post them later its kinda late and i need to be up in roughly 5hrs

AM…Kyokushin class yesterday morning, focus was purely light technical work focusing on covering and getting inside for body shots and leg kicks (KKK teaches you to try for leg kicks from all sorts of angles) and blocking shots on the legs.

incase anyone was wondering what KK is

before any smart ass says “you dont punch to face” the reasoning is competition KK no padding is allowed, and peoples faces/hands would end up a mess if head shots where allowed. Additionally in training we often wear 8oz mma gloves and work head shots. Addmittedly there are KK guys who are so competition focused the dont bother with head shots at all.

PM…Submission Wrestling/MMA, two heavy weights who had been away for a month returned today so i had someone in my class to sparr with, both guys are bouncers and much bigger than myself but they gas quickly. Focus was on working for snap down/full body clinch into taking the back/side for leg trips. Large focus on ground and pound work, not my style but crucial for my own defense seeing as its the only tactic most other amateur HW’s use. Got some nice halfguard/kimura transitions. Really struggled holding them in closed guard, ive got to get used to dealing with stronger opponents in my own guard. If i can throw on rubber guard they spaz and waste tons of energy leading to easy subs.

Session ended with some stupid sparring both other HW’s gassed hard and had to sit out. So i was in with the LHW’s.

um no one here will talk shit about kyokushkin that is some above and beyond badass shit.

lifted saturday and sunday

DE upper, ME Lower

6 rounds of pad & bag work today drills and conditioning for a 3 round fight

increasing it to eventually 15 rounds of padwork and bag work and conditioning for a 5 round fight.

i fight again march 22nd…

there’s a smoker on the 8th i might go to for shits and giggles tho

FYI
Martin Rooney’s new book hits amazon and stores tomorrow. It deals with all aspects of mma strength and conditioning.
It’s called Training for Warriors, just like the last one, but this 2008 edition is bigger, full color and completely different.

I just recently started training way more serisouly, once i joined the new place where i am training now(been about a year). I was wondering if anyone could give me advice on how to amp up my game, by that i mean what kind of workouts etc… i train in class 3-4 times a week, 1hour and a half to 2 hours per class.

Any pointers would be great as long as that fightinirish guy doesnt talk since he has nothing positive to say.

man fuck martin rooney

he wont make me his adopted son :frowning:

[quote]justinl69 wrote:
I just recently started training way more serisouly, once i joined the new place where i am training now(been about a year). I was wondering if anyone could give me advice on how to amp up my game, by that i mean what kind of workouts etc… i train in class 3-4 times a week, 1hour and a half to 2 hours per class.

Any pointers would be great as long as that fightinirish guy doesnt talk since he has nothing positive to say.[/quote]

irish is a good guy, please dont bring drama to an otherwise great thread. if you’re joking then ignore my request. Either way i think this would be great for everyone to chip in on, anyone who has some time under their belt training might have some good tips for someone just starting training. And hopefully we can all gain something from it. anyway i really dont know shit but some things ive learned from experience…

Technique is paramount over EVERYTHING.

Shadowboxing with VIGOR. Call it shadowfighting really. Don’t just shadowbox like you’re dancing or something, or spend the time looking in the mirror. Shadowbox like there is someone in front of you trying to hit you, i imagine an urok like from lord of the rings.

So keep moving, keep your jab going, launch techniques with viscious BAD intentions, recover well nothing sloppy (remember your imaginary opponent would take advantage of anything sloppy), and remember to defend its not just an offensive game.

If you do this for a few rounds it’s a workout by itself. It also trains your mindset for the intensity of combat because not a lot of people are that comfortable amongst violence. Its kind of a live action meditation for me. WHen i need to center myself i shadowbox… and then fighting a human isn’t so bad lol

same goes for grappling of any form, you CAN shadowgrapple, also when drilling with your partner, you do not have to hurt them or spaz out or otherwise be a fuck-head. but train with serious intent, or as bruce lee said in enter the drago “emotional content”. If you had to fight someone the next day it would be a fucking serious training session wouldn’t it? same thing… im not saying dont laugh and what not or joke around but when you drill something. DRILL IT. FOCUS.

as far as training your body…

conditioning. condition for the rounds you’ll be fighting. if its 3 rounds of 5minutes each, break your intervals into 30seconds each, go balls out for each exercise till you reach the 5minute mark. Rest 1minute and repeat.

eventually decrease your rest to 30seconds, then if you have time and that becomes easier, increase the # of rounds you’re going (if you feel inclined, or you can turn up the intensity).

also for your aerobic work, working at a high heart rate (use a monitor) for 5minutes and then going through some meditation type stuff (scott sonnon has articles on this google it) to calm your heart rate during your 1 min break is very beneficial. Teaches you to go balls out then collect yourself.

dont forgo roadwork, everyone likes to say “oh you dont need it” or “its not applicable” but you learn a LOT about yourself on a cold hour long run. 3 miles is a SPRINT to a navy seal so keep in mind that can do 3 miles in under 30min at a pretty lazy clip so get in some roadwork 1x a week. I prefer outside but if its on the elliptical so be it… Keeps your bodyfat down, teaches you to control your breathing, mental fortitude, patience, focus, pain endurance, a ton of benefits.

There are a billion ways to condition yourself you have to take the time, experiment and find out what works best for you.

Lifting weights… very few things beat 3-4x a week, total body workouts or 4x a week ME & DE upper/lower split.

I can talk about this for years.

but basic take home pts

  • train the basic multi joint movements dont waste time with trying to get too sport specific. Strength is strength is strength and more than likely any strength you gain will transfer for you unless you’re an elite athlete then training in a hyperbaric time chamber with 10x normal gravity or some shit will be necessary otherwise just fucking squat.

  • train for strength. period. anything else you want will come as a result of your diet.

  • never let your strength training interfere with your technique training. if you’re too sore to spar effectively then you need to cut back on the lifting because you’re doing yourself a disservice.

  • as a part II to my first point, padwork and the heavy bag are where you take the strength you gain and apply it. Same with grappling, its in live sparring you get to test your newly acquired range of motion and fluidity. There is a lot of give and take in grappling, where you dont want to muscle things, or use your speed all the time and become dependent on it (because one day you’ll meet someone faster than you and dont have technique to fall back on). But THIS is the time that you have to make your 20lb increase on your squat applicable to fighting.

yup muay thai

3rounds x 2min.

fights for a belt are 5rounds, i might fight

pro fights are 3min rounds

off to the gym check the thread after

In case anyone was wondering, I haven’t disappeared. Well, I have disappeared from any BJJ or muay Thai training, so in that aspect, I have been a ghost.

Work’s been very busy the past 3 weeks and I just haven’t been able to train. I’m still lifting and doing conditioning, though, so I’m not a total bum.

If and when I get back to class, I’ll let you all know. Keep up the good work everyone.

-Dan

Hope all that gets sorted out djwlfpack, life always gets in the way of important stuff

fighting > breathing/eating/etc

grappling is where you can really expose the ‘muscling’ guy, unless you’re really trying to hurt the person with your standup its harder to show them that their sloppiness won’t help. Thats why weed is so good for bjj, more chill you are the better you work hahaha (according to eddie bravo).

i agree, no idea why but knuckle pushups just make me feel more confident striking i rarely do pushups any other way. But its been a while since i’ve really tested myself as far as pushups, i dont mean this in anyway to be bragging, but i can pump out 100 easily probably 200 if i was really trying so its been a loooooong time since ive seen any real benefit from doing endless pushups.

1 arm pushups on the other hand… talk about an exercise to improve your striking power. wow. when you can do 15-20 of those on each hand you’re a beast.

thanks xen I appreciate, the info. I was kinda hopin u wouldtn say running was great, but i guess its something ill have to add to my weeks! On the plus side summer is coming.

In regards to teh one hand push up, My SIfu does these crazy 2 finger push ups, the guys are nuts, his lil bro, can do head stands, yes head stands not hand stands. They r ppl that definitly pump u up when u see what they can do.

If u wanna see the 2 fingure push up, go to www.fangshendo.com i beleive its in the video on the home page, if not its somewhere in the site.

Keep those posts comin. Thanks again.

[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
Xen Nova wrote:
man fuck martin rooney

he wont make me his adopted son :frowning:

Lol. He probably gets about a thousand requests for that a day.[/quote]

Hahaha…He would love that…

preview pages of the book
http://browseinside.harpercollins.com/index.aspx?isbn13=9780061374333&WT.mc_id

found out mma and muay thai smokers are now banned in california. apparent story behind it is some guys got seriously injured at an mma smoker and the event had no insurance so Cali athletic commission is cracking down on them.

if you’ve ever been to the typical mma smoker, a lot of it is done by irresponsible promoters who are in it for the money and do end up getting athletes injured because its full mma rules… plus they’re fighting for free.

There’s no amateur style to it at all so guys are dropped in no shinguards, no head gear, no more padded (like shooto) style gloves. Just some old school harbinger bag gloves/ufc gloves and let em fight.

Hell they’ll charge 50 bucks a seat and shit like its a real ufc event.

well this screws over the mma smoker promoters who DO put on good productions and the muay thai fighters who aren’t ready to hop into the amateur ranks.

This is the kind of thing that floods the talent pool with guys who haven’t cut their teeth yet and end up getting people hurt because no one’s seen anyone arund the community and they hop in their with someone they shouldn’t and someone gets hurt.

the reason why boxing is so skilled is because of the amateur scene where it makes the cream rise to the top.

but they’ve effectively eliminated any chance at that.

Thanks state commission.

(who by the way imo, is probably funded for this by the UFC because they want a cut off of the smoker fights)

Do you guys recommend getting the training for warriors dvd along with the new book?

oh yeah, anybody else check out eddie bravo’s new book? I haven’t had a chance to look thru it yet, but I did like the way his rubber guard was set up with big pictures and descriptions ( I like books with pictures) but I can’t really stand how he’s been making a living off of triangling Royler one time like ten years ago.

I buy a lot of books and dvds.
I love BJ’s book and I liked Eddie’s dvds.
Just to be clear, Martin’s book is not mma or fighting techniques. Just strength, conditioning, mobility, warm ups, nutrition and such…but it’s really well done.

[quote]Scrappy wrote:
I buy a lot of books and dvds.
I love BJ’s book and I liked Eddie’s dvds.
Just to be clear, Martin’s book is not mma or fighting techniques. Just strength, conditioning, mobility, warm ups, nutrition and such…but it’s really well done.[/quote]

Yeah, I’m just a little bored with my current workout which are very basic and modeled around bodybuilding templates(kind of) Does Martin go over training methodology in terms of how to incorporate weight training/resistance training into your weekly activities (martial arts training)? Or does he just give you a bunch of exercises and workouts to go off of?

eddie bravo’s system is brilliantly thought out, funny thing i know a lot of guys who train at 10th planet and they’ve moved on already from whats in the books thats like blue belt level stuff they’re constantly evolving.

the rubberguard stuff is great, and really will make you unpredictable to most opponents.

what is incredible tho is the 1/2 guard material and how he developed a whole game off the twister

they have a whole system based off the darce but that hasn’t been released yet but its great if you have a good sprawl

[quote]slimjim wrote:
Scrappy wrote:
I buy a lot of books and dvds.
I love BJ’s book and I liked Eddie’s dvds.
Just to be clear, Martin’s book is not mma or fighting techniques. Just strength, conditioning, mobility, warm ups, nutrition and such…but it’s really well done.

Yeah, I’m just a little bored with my current workout which are very basic and modeled around bodybuilding templates(kind of) Does Martin go over training methodology in terms of how to incorporate weight training/resistance training into your weekly activities (martial arts training)? Or does he just give you a bunch of exercises and workouts to go off of?[/quote]

Yes it covers his methodology well and It does give a BUNCH of exercises and 8 weeks of progressive workouts but that’s not all. It talks about how Martin handles working them into the rest of training.

I suggest you pick it up at Barnes and Noble and see what you think if you have doubts. It’s worth it just for the photos IMHO.
But the info is not lacking or sparse. This is how he trains fighters plain and simple. How he goes about flexibility, diet, conditioning and everything else.

It gives an 8 week s&c progression and offers all the exercises and circuits he does. The best part is each section has exercises with bodyweight, a partner alternative or an equipment exercise so depending on what you have you can make it work with a ton of equipment or nothing.