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Strength Workout

Did some single-leg lower body exercises, and did some rows and push-up variations for upper-body, staying in the 10-12 rep range but moving up a set to 3 this week. Rest also decreased from 90 to 75 seconds.

Don’t know how much training I’ll get in this week. My instructor is headed up to Canada to corner one of our fighters, who’s taking on Jesse Forbes from the Ultimate Fighter 3. They’ve already canceled some classes, and not sure if there’s subs lined up for the others later this week.

Out of all the people who’s website I should be checking its Cosgrove and I never make it over there, thanks Irish, enjoy the gratuitous chick pic!

today: (2/19/08)

power cleans
185x1
205x1
225x1
for 3 sets

----------> this is DE work, but im focusing on bar speed, obviously its already an inherently fast movement, so im using more than the prescribed 50% of max, more like 80-85%, but still bar speed is the most important part. I can power snatch 185, so im good with that its almost above my head b4 the “catch”, 225 is getting to a slower range but i dont want to be maxing out so i call it quits there and just focus on moving the bar faster/recruiting more motor units.

lost my bands when i moved or id be doing snatch/clean pulls with bands instead the acccomodating resistance helps a LOT in improving your rate of muscle recruitment. just my opinion. We’ll see if i know what im talkin about in a few yrs lol

RDL’s (should have done gm’s but whatever)
225x6, 315x6, 365x6, 425x4

stand ab pulldowns + hanging pikes, 4x8
→ need to make these more difficult

rest 10-15min, kinda lost track… down protien/carb drink with shitton of amino acids (ltyrosine, taurine, etc etc)

3 rounds, 2min each, 30s rest on bag

  • work on flowing combinations together and power, pop the bag make it bounce, bend it with kicks, Teep to face, double kick with immediate teep after, junkyard dog combo, pop-bang tech

rest 2min

C2 rower, keep heart rate above 180bpm for 6minutes

repeat 3x.

carb HEAVY solution, protien, amino acids double dose, beta alanine…eat real meal (salad, chopped fruit low glycemicindex, pound a gallon of water quickly b4 i get satieted(sp?)) + another protien shake in about 20-30min.

go see step up 2 (again) with the Lady…ugh…(ok its not that bad haha)


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Xen, I’ll check those links out. Much appreciated!

[quote]Xen Nova wrote:
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Wow.

Has anyone got this Training for Warriors from the trailer it looks good:

http://www.flexcart.com/members/elitefts/default.asp?cid=333

Did a 3-mile run. I like to do this every few weeks or so, just to switch things up. Plus it’s usually a good barometer for how in-shape I am. If I can complete it in under 20 min., then I’m good to go. If it’s above 20, then I know I need to step things up a bit.

Today I came in at 18:50. A bit faster than I expected, but I was very happy with the time.

One of these days I might get to actually do some acutal MMA training :slight_smile: I swear, this work schedule is really hampering my ability to train.

Xen, who is that in the photo? Your girl?

nice #'s guys, 135 is impressive for being injured, damn impressive run by the way. I dont like judging by time though because that can change by too many variables so i like to judge by heart rate cause at least you know you’re working hard enough.

and not my girl…similar body type tho (she’s on ucla gymnastics team) thats one of the crossfit chicks haha probably the only reason id go down there for a workout :-p

me: “Fuck ya, nancy, susie q, j-lo, courtney love… what the fuck-ever workout u wanna do, just wear those stretchy pants”

gotta love crossfit

[quote]JRT6 wrote:
Has anyone got this Training for Warriors from the trailer it looks good:

http://www.flexcart.com/members/elitefts/default.asp?cid=333 [/quote]

Wait a little bit, because that is companion DVD to Martin Rooney’s old book, and I’m sure a new one will come out with the book. But that DVD is pretty good, especially because it goes over a fantastic dynamic warm up routine that really has to be seen to understand.

[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
Alright, couple of questions for everyone.

  1. I always read how boxers do insane amounts of roadwork, endless pushups and situps, etc. Does this old school way of training fuck them up by making them slower, i.e. developing slow twitch more than fast twitch fibers?

And I might be a jive turkey for mentioning this one, but a buddy brought it up and I didn’t know what to tell him:

  1. If a boxer trains at a very high altitude (i.e. Mile High Stadium), will their lung capacity increase enough that their wind will superior to the athlete that trains at Sea level? [/quote]

I live in CO and I do notice a difference when I go back home to NY and train. Training at altitude forces the body to produce more RBC’s as your training at an O2 deficit. So, when you return to sea level, your capacity will be at a higher level.

[quote]Donut62 wrote:
JRT6 wrote:
Has anyone got this Training for Warriors from the trailer it looks good:

http://www.flexcart.com/members/elitefts/default.asp?cid=333

Wait a little bit, because that is companion DVD to Martin Rooney’s old book, and I’m sure a new one will come out with the book. But that DVD is pretty good, especially because it goes over a fantastic dynamic warm up routine that really has to be seen to understand.[/quote]

Ok.

1- No and yes, you need that kind of strength for the most part, anyone who trains for a fight realizes that endless work actually does have some relevance as far as transferring.

Weight bearing exercises beat you up a LOT joint wise and bodyweight conditioning is a lot easier on you as far as longevity and recovery.

That said you can increase a lot more athletic components by utilizing weights

Also “speed” in boxing is primarily what you see, your reaction time, and power is more about striking accuracy.

There are a lot of physically fast guys who just don’t have the reaction time. A super fast power clean doesn’t mean you can hit me.

If you want to get faster at fighting, train your skill set, ingrain in your muscle memory and have the conditioning to be able to execute it on instinct even when tired.

That said, hitting the bag, and pads is plyometric in and of itself. I have a few manuals that mention that hitting the tire with a sledgehammer is good because when it rebounds it has a plyometric effect on your muscles. Same as when you hit a heavy bag.

So technically they’re still getting some speed training. (Which is why I dont mind too much skipping speed days if i were to train a fighter personally) You can develop power a lot of different ways.

For a while we had the specificity crowd trying to cash in on things and you still have guys doing shots with cables attached, or boxing with cables on their arms and stuff.

While im sure that has a great effect for a little while… its nothing to build on.

If you need more strength, get strength in the basic lifts and the transferance occurs when you train your techniques. Spending more time punching with dumbbells than hitting a focus mitt will just change your motor unit patterns and fuck up your striking when you dont have weights in ur hands.

front squat, deadlift, and do bent rows… Hit the heavy bag a lot. You’ll see your power go up. Its really that simple. 90% of people can get more power out of improving their striking technique than just lifting anyway. Only a very limited amount of fighters are so technically perfect that lifting is going to improve their power dramatically.

but nothing wrong with trying to increase both at the same time, but you just have to understand what’s important.

Trading lifting for fighting is dumb. Thats like saying im going to do overhead presses instead of practice my jumpshot.

Its really Technique AND Conditioning, mental fortitude, good partners, THEN lifting.

another lifting concept to think about is its not necessarily mimicing the actual movement pattern to improve “specific” strength, but really the joint expression.

for example, a punch starts at your legs (big toe really) and moves across the rest of your body through kinetic linking and culminates at your fist. we all know that.

well pick exercises that are similar if you want to develope that kind of power

the more specific you get you pretty much end up with the 1 arm snatch, 1arm bench and 1 arm jerk being your best bet for exercises

those lifts require strength and speed levels to be inplace already they’re more like expressions of the power that you’ve already built (dont get me wrong they can be tools themselves but still that point remains true imo)

so to build power, build your strength (squats, deadlifts, rows) and then build your speed (DE work with accomodating resistance imo, or jump squat training, plyometrics, etc).

But ok, back to your friends main question… rocky marciano did not seem fucked up at all by only hittin the bag and doing endless amounts of calisthenics and roadwork.

It’s something that is necessary not optimal but is a small part of the equation of fighting. While i’d rate intervals way above it. A lot of guys roadwork wasn’t just long jogs, if you look around for their logs they’d sprint for a while, jog, sprint, stop do some pushups, jog, sprint, etc or if they do 10miles it was at a pretty good clip. And regardless because of the nature of fighting you can get away with being “slow twitch”

look at nick diaz, he does triathalons and smokes weed. Doesn’t touch a weight or worry about being slow twitch.

its a fight not football i think guys get confused about that. The article DJWolf posted about BJ is right…too many athletes not enough fighters.

just my opinion of course so its ok if you disagree, i respect anyone’s right to be wrong :slight_smile:

2- Yes, but from what i’ve heard… and i could be wrong… that lung capacity leaves pretty quickly once they get back down the mountain. I believe but its a good mental thing. Though I dont know for sure, and im of the opinion if it’s worked for so many previously there has to be SOMETHING to it.

but basically i dont know and its my opinion.

prize if you read all that shit…

oh and the lady hinted that she’ll get me this for my birthday :slight_smile:

finally a progressive way to train ring planche and iron cross techniques.

[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
Alright, couple of questions for everyone.

  1. I always read how boxers do insane amounts of roadwork, endless pushups and situps, etc. Does this old school way of training fuck them up by making them slower, i.e. developing slow twitch more than fast twitch fibers?

And I might be a jive turkey for mentioning this one, but a buddy brought it up and I didn’t know what to tell him:

  1. If a boxer trains at a very high altitude (i.e. Mile High Stadium), will their lung capacity increase enough that their wind will superior to the athlete that trains at Sea level? [/quote]

I’ve read a few articles discussing this. Apparently your body’s response to receiving less o2 at a higher altitude is to produce more red blood cells to carry o2, when you return to lower altitude your body is able to operate a higher level because of the greater oxygen capacity of your body.

Another article covering this topic as it related to distance running argued that the optimum training as related to this was to live at a higher altitude, but train at a lower altitude because your body is able to function better at a lower altitude. This way you get the increased benefit of high-altitude effects on your body combined with the optimum environment for training.

I guess BJ’s stupid little high altitude tent theory has some backing after all.

[quote]Djwlfpack wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:
Alright, couple of questions for everyone.

  1. I always read how boxers do insane amounts of roadwork, endless pushups and situps, etc. Does this old school way of training fuck them up by making them slower, i.e. developing slow twitch more than fast twitch fibers?

And I might be a jive turkey for mentioning this one, but a buddy brought it up and I didn’t know what to tell him:

  1. If a boxer trains at a very high altitude (i.e. Mile High Stadium), will their lung capacity increase enough that their wind will superior to the athlete that trains at Sea level?

I live in CO and I do notice a difference when I go back home to NY and train. Training at altitude forces the body to produce more RBC’s as your training at an O2 deficit. So, when you return to sea level, your capacity will be at a higher level.[/quote]

I missed this post so mine is a bit redundant.

actually slimjim that was pretty interesting thanks didn’t consider that.
not redundant… of course you could just take anadrol to increase ur red blood cell count but im not sean sherk so i wouldn’t know :wink:

[quote]slimjim wrote:
Another article covering this topic as it related to distance running argued that the optimum training as related to this was to live at a higher altitude, but train at a lower altitude because your body is able to function better at a lower altitude. This way you get the increased benefit of high-altitude effects on your body combined with the optimum environment for training.

I guess BJ’s stupid little high altitude tent theory has some backing after all.[/quote]

I was just going to mention this. Apparently it’s getting pretty popular with athletes right now to use those altitude tents. It eliminates the problem that a lot of guys have that in the first coupleof weeks at high alititude training is going to be total shit because your work capacity is in the gutter until you adapt.

[quote]Xen Nova wrote:
actually slimjim that was pretty interesting thanks didn’t consider that.
not redundant… of course you could just take anadrol to increase ur red blood cell count but im not sean sherk so i wouldn’t know :wink:
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You mean Xyience Joint Forumula :)?

OK, I have a question:

As I mentioned a few days ago, I’ve been having, what I think, are some acid reflux issues. But, I’ve also had a couple of small vertigo spells as well (I do have a small inner ear problem).

Both issues are starting to play havoc with me. I feel tight in my chest and just have a general feeling of malaise.

Question is, do I fight through this and train or should I stop training (I’m talking lifting and everything) for a few days and see if this clears up?

Thanks for the input.