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[quote]scj119 wrote:

[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
Here’s why analyzing the WS is much harder than the other series. The lack of the DH is a huge problem for the AL teams. It creates so many things to consider.

NL rules for 4 games. Vlad is playing OF for two of those games. That means that his bat is not in the lineup until the 7th inning or later of 2 of them AND his glove is in the game for the other 2 until the 7th inning or so unless theyre losing.

Having his bat out of the lineup for 2 games is a big detriment to that lineup. Cruz moves up to 4. The Giants will pitch around either Hamilton or Cruz every single time theyre due up.

The rangers will not hit the way they did against the yankees in this series. Still a better offensive team by a mile but theres no way to judge how their offense will fair. Giants pitching is 100x better than the yankees and their guys go deep.

The only way the Giants have a chance to win is if their starters dominate. The Giants have a lot less room for error but have a chance to give up less than 10 runs the whole series.

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True.

The flip side to this though is that AL has the advantage in their home game, because their roster is built for a DH whereas the NL team usually just throws their best pinch hitter in the DH slot.

NL home games = AL either loses a good hitter or has to play someone who sucks at defense
AL home games = NL DH is generally a much worse hitter than the AL DH.[/quote]

For sure.

I think an AL team w/NL rules is hurt more than a NL team w/AL rules is benefitted. If that makes sense, which it probably doesnt

And in this case the Giants will have Sandoval as their DH. Not such a horrible fill in. The giants are built like a really shitty AL offense with great pitching lol. I think the Giants have a much better chance of success under AL rules than the Rangers do under NL rules.

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[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:

[quote]scj119 wrote:

[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
Here’s why analyzing the WS is much harder than the other series. The lack of the DH is a huge problem for the AL teams. It creates so many things to consider.

NL rules for 4 games. Vlad is playing OF for two of those games. That means that his bat is not in the lineup until the 7th inning or later of 2 of them AND his glove is in the game for the other 2 until the 7th inning or so unless theyre losing.

Having his bat out of the lineup for 2 games is a big detriment to that lineup. Cruz moves up to 4. The Giants will pitch around either Hamilton or Cruz every single time theyre due up.

The rangers will not hit the way they did against the yankees in this series. Still a better offensive team by a mile but theres no way to judge how their offense will fair. Giants pitching is 100x better than the yankees and their guys go deep.

The only way the Giants have a chance to win is if their starters dominate. The Giants have a lot less room for error but have a chance to give up less than 10 runs the whole series.

[/quote]

True.

The flip side to this though is that AL has the advantage in their home game, because their roster is built for a DH whereas the NL team usually just throws their best pinch hitter in the DH slot.

NL home games = AL either loses a good hitter or has to play someone who sucks at defense
AL home games = NL DH is generally a much worse hitter than the AL DH.[/quote]

For sure.

I think an AL team w/NL rules is hurt more than a NL team w/AL rules is benefitted. If that makes sense, which it probably doesnt

And in this case the Giants will have Sandoval as their DH. Not such a horrible fill in. The giants are built like a really shitty AL offense with great pitching lol. I think the Giants have a much better chance of success under AL rules than the Rangers do under NL rules.

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Fucking Panda is a perfect DH.
His glove is garbage at least his hitting hasn’t taken as much of a crapout.

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[quote]Hallowed wrote:

[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:

[quote]scj119 wrote:

[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
Here’s why analyzing the WS is much harder than the other series. The lack of the DH is a huge problem for the AL teams. It creates so many things to consider.

NL rules for 4 games. Vlad is playing OF for two of those games. That means that his bat is not in the lineup until the 7th inning or later of 2 of them AND his glove is in the game for the other 2 until the 7th inning or so unless theyre losing.

Having his bat out of the lineup for 2 games is a big detriment to that lineup. Cruz moves up to 4. The Giants will pitch around either Hamilton or Cruz every single time theyre due up.

The rangers will not hit the way they did against the yankees in this series. Still a better offensive team by a mile but theres no way to judge how their offense will fair. Giants pitching is 100x better than the yankees and their guys go deep.

The only way the Giants have a chance to win is if their starters dominate. The Giants have a lot less room for error but have a chance to give up less than 10 runs the whole series.

[/quote]

True.

The flip side to this though is that AL has the advantage in their home game, because their roster is built for a DH whereas the NL team usually just throws their best pinch hitter in the DH slot.

NL home games = AL either loses a good hitter or has to play someone who sucks at defense
AL home games = NL DH is generally a much worse hitter than the AL DH.[/quote]

For sure.

I think an AL team w/NL rules is hurt more than a NL team w/AL rules is benefitted. If that makes sense, which it probably doesnt

And in this case the Giants will have Sandoval as their DH. Not such a horrible fill in. The giants are built like a really shitty AL offense with great pitching lol. I think the Giants have a much better chance of success under AL rules than the Rangers do under NL rules.

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Fucking Panda is a perfect DH.
His glove is garbage at least his hitting hasn’t taken as much of a crapout.[/quote]

You think they’ll DH Panda or Burrell? Both are pretty brutal with the leather.

Uribe is better than Schierholz so Panda’s probably the DH, just a guess.

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I don’t think Cody Ross is going to do shit this World Series.

We’ll see.

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[quote]scj119 wrote:

[quote]Hallowed wrote:

[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:

[quote]scj119 wrote:

[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
Here’s why analyzing the WS is much harder than the other series. The lack of the DH is a huge problem for the AL teams. It creates so many things to consider.

NL rules for 4 games. Vlad is playing OF for two of those games. That means that his bat is not in the lineup until the 7th inning or later of 2 of them AND his glove is in the game for the other 2 until the 7th inning or so unless theyre losing.

Having his bat out of the lineup for 2 games is a big detriment to that lineup. Cruz moves up to 4. The Giants will pitch around either Hamilton or Cruz every single time theyre due up.

The rangers will not hit the way they did against the yankees in this series. Still a better offensive team by a mile but theres no way to judge how their offense will fair. Giants pitching is 100x better than the yankees and their guys go deep.

The only way the Giants have a chance to win is if their starters dominate. The Giants have a lot less room for error but have a chance to give up less than 10 runs the whole series.

[/quote]

True.

The flip side to this though is that AL has the advantage in their home game, because their roster is built for a DH whereas the NL team usually just throws their best pinch hitter in the DH slot.

NL home games = AL either loses a good hitter or has to play someone who sucks at defense
AL home games = NL DH is generally a much worse hitter than the AL DH.[/quote]

For sure.

I think an AL team w/NL rules is hurt more than a NL team w/AL rules is benefitted. If that makes sense, which it probably doesnt

And in this case the Giants will have Sandoval as their DH. Not such a horrible fill in. The giants are built like a really shitty AL offense with great pitching lol. I think the Giants have a much better chance of success under AL rules than the Rangers do under NL rules.

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Fucking Panda is a perfect DH.
His glove is garbage at least his hitting hasn’t taken as much of a crapout.[/quote]

You think they’ll DH Panda or Burrell? Both are pretty brutal with the leather.

Uribe is better than Schierholz so Panda’s probably the DH, just a guess.
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I think Burrell has been DH before with not such great luck. I really think Panda.

Total sidenote I hope the (Giants) fans aren’t dicks to Bengie.

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[quote]PB Andy wrote:
I don’t think Cody Ross is going to do shit this World Series.

We’ll see.[/quote]

Unless of course the Rangers decide to keep pitching him inside like the Phillies did. Seriously, how many times does a guy have to hurt you in the same spot before you stop throwing there?!

And yes. Burrell sucks as DH. The Giants picked him up off of waivers from the Rays this year because he just couldn’t get it done. At the time a part of me was hoping the Phils would have picked him up for purely nostalgic reasons.

After the NLCS this year I think it is going to be a while before Pat and Elvis (his dog) are welcomed back in Philly, though.

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[quote]Hallowed wrote:

[quote]scj119 wrote:

[quote]Hallowed wrote:

[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:

[quote]scj119 wrote:

[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
Here’s why analyzing the WS is much harder than the other series. The lack of the DH is a huge problem for the AL teams. It creates so many things to consider.

NL rules for 4 games. Vlad is playing OF for two of those games. That means that his bat is not in the lineup until the 7th inning or later of 2 of them AND his glove is in the game for the other 2 until the 7th inning or so unless theyre losing.

Having his bat out of the lineup for 2 games is a big detriment to that lineup. Cruz moves up to 4. The Giants will pitch around either Hamilton or Cruz every single time theyre due up.

The rangers will not hit the way they did against the yankees in this series. Still a better offensive team by a mile but theres no way to judge how their offense will fair. Giants pitching is 100x better than the yankees and their guys go deep.

The only way the Giants have a chance to win is if their starters dominate. The Giants have a lot less room for error but have a chance to give up less than 10 runs the whole series.

[/quote]

True.

The flip side to this though is that AL has the advantage in their home game, because their roster is built for a DH whereas the NL team usually just throws their best pinch hitter in the DH slot.

NL home games = AL either loses a good hitter or has to play someone who sucks at defense
AL home games = NL DH is generally a much worse hitter than the AL DH.[/quote]

For sure.

I think an AL team w/NL rules is hurt more than a NL team w/AL rules is benefitted. If that makes sense, which it probably doesnt

And in this case the Giants will have Sandoval as their DH. Not such a horrible fill in. The giants are built like a really shitty AL offense with great pitching lol. I think the Giants have a much better chance of success under AL rules than the Rangers do under NL rules.

[/quote]

Fucking Panda is a perfect DH.
His glove is garbage at least his hitting hasn’t taken as much of a crapout.[/quote]

You think they’ll DH Panda or Burrell? Both are pretty brutal with the leather.

Uribe is better than Schierholz so Panda’s probably the DH, just a guess.
[/quote]

I think Burrell has been DH before with not such great luck. I really think Panda.

Total sidenote I hope the (Giants) fans aren’t dicks to Bengie.[/quote]

I think what they’ll do is use Burrell as the DH against lefties with Rowand in center and Torres in either right or left and use Huff as the DH with Ishikawa at first and Burrell in left against righties. They just don’t have any sort of impact bat to bring off the bench and use as DH so I think they’re better off using the DH as an opportunity to get a better defensive player on the field.

Sandoval plays third with a righthander on the mound with Uribe at short and Renteria at short and Uribe at third against lefties.

And I’m sure the fans will give Bengie a nice ovation his first at-bat and then boo him the same as every other player after that. If he gets a big hit or knocks one out, they’ll tear into him though.

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[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]Hallowed wrote:

[quote]scj119 wrote:

[quote]Hallowed wrote:

[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:

[quote]scj119 wrote:

[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
Here’s why analyzing the WS is much harder than the other series. The lack of the DH is a huge problem for the AL teams. It creates so many things to consider.

NL rules for 4 games. Vlad is playing OF for two of those games. That means that his bat is not in the lineup until the 7th inning or later of 2 of them AND his glove is in the game for the other 2 until the 7th inning or so unless theyre losing.

Having his bat out of the lineup for 2 games is a big detriment to that lineup. Cruz moves up to 4. The Giants will pitch around either Hamilton or Cruz every single time theyre due up.

The rangers will not hit the way they did against the yankees in this series. Still a better offensive team by a mile but theres no way to judge how their offense will fair. Giants pitching is 100x better than the yankees and their guys go deep.

The only way the Giants have a chance to win is if their starters dominate. The Giants have a lot less room for error but have a chance to give up less than 10 runs the whole series.

[/quote]

True.

The flip side to this though is that AL has the advantage in their home game, because their roster is built for a DH whereas the NL team usually just throws their best pinch hitter in the DH slot.

NL home games = AL either loses a good hitter or has to play someone who sucks at defense
AL home games = NL DH is generally a much worse hitter than the AL DH.[/quote]

For sure.

I think an AL team w/NL rules is hurt more than a NL team w/AL rules is benefitted. If that makes sense, which it probably doesnt

And in this case the Giants will have Sandoval as their DH. Not such a horrible fill in. The giants are built like a really shitty AL offense with great pitching lol. I think the Giants have a much better chance of success under AL rules than the Rangers do under NL rules.

[/quote]

Fucking Panda is a perfect DH.
His glove is garbage at least his hitting hasn’t taken as much of a crapout.[/quote]

You think they’ll DH Panda or Burrell? Both are pretty brutal with the leather.

Uribe is better than Schierholz so Panda’s probably the DH, just a guess.
[/quote]

I think Burrell has been DH before with not such great luck. I really think Panda.

Total sidenote I hope the (Giants) fans aren’t dicks to Bengie.[/quote]

I think what they’ll do is use Burrell as the DH against lefties with Rowand in center and Torres in either right or left and use Huff as the DH with Ishikawa at first and Burrell in left against righties. They just don’t have any sort of impact bat to bring off the bench and use as DH so I think they’re better off using the DH as an opportunity to get a better defensive player on the field.

Sandoval plays third with a righthander on the mound with Uribe at short and Renteria at short and Uribe at third against lefties.

And I’m sure the fans will give Bengie a nice ovation his first at-bat and then boo him the same as every other player after that. If he gets a big hit or knocks one out, they’ll tear into him though.[/quote]

I have thought of this Ish at first Huff as DH… I don’t think my thought process got all the way down to it being against righties. Ish’s glove is good.

I just want Bengie to get his polite little round of applause on first appearance. that will satisfy my ladylike requirements.

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He should get it. Just like McNabb got a standing ovation as he entered the field in Philly this year, and then was booed after that.

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[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]Hallowed wrote:

[quote]scj119 wrote:

[quote]Hallowed wrote:

[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:

[quote]scj119 wrote:

[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
Here’s why analyzing the WS is much harder than the other series. The lack of the DH is a huge problem for the AL teams. It creates so many things to consider.

NL rules for 4 games. Vlad is playing OF for two of those games. That means that his bat is not in the lineup until the 7th inning or later of 2 of them AND his glove is in the game for the other 2 until the 7th inning or so unless theyre losing.

Having his bat out of the lineup for 2 games is a big detriment to that lineup. Cruz moves up to 4. The Giants will pitch around either Hamilton or Cruz every single time theyre due up.

The rangers will not hit the way they did against the yankees in this series. Still a better offensive team by a mile but theres no way to judge how their offense will fair. Giants pitching is 100x better than the yankees and their guys go deep.

The only way the Giants have a chance to win is if their starters dominate. The Giants have a lot less room for error but have a chance to give up less than 10 runs the whole series.

[/quote]

True.

The flip side to this though is that AL has the advantage in their home game, because their roster is built for a DH whereas the NL team usually just throws their best pinch hitter in the DH slot.

NL home games = AL either loses a good hitter or has to play someone who sucks at defense
AL home games = NL DH is generally a much worse hitter than the AL DH.[/quote]

For sure.

I think an AL team w/NL rules is hurt more than a NL team w/AL rules is benefitted. If that makes sense, which it probably doesnt

And in this case the Giants will have Sandoval as their DH. Not such a horrible fill in. The giants are built like a really shitty AL offense with great pitching lol. I think the Giants have a much better chance of success under AL rules than the Rangers do under NL rules.

[/quote]

Fucking Panda is a perfect DH.
His glove is garbage at least his hitting hasn’t taken as much of a crapout.[/quote]

You think they’ll DH Panda or Burrell? Both are pretty brutal with the leather.

Uribe is better than Schierholz so Panda’s probably the DH, just a guess.
[/quote]

I think Burrell has been DH before with not such great luck. I really think Panda.

Total sidenote I hope the (Giants) fans aren’t dicks to Bengie.[/quote]

I think what they’ll do is use Burrell as the DH against lefties with Rowand in center and Torres in either right or left and use Huff as the DH with Ishikawa at first and Burrell in left against righties. They just don’t have any sort of impact bat to bring off the bench and use as DH so I think they’re better off using the DH as an opportunity to get a better defensive player on the field.

Sandoval plays third with a righthander on the mound with Uribe at short and Renteria at short and Uribe at third against lefties.

And I’m sure the fans will give Bengie a nice ovation his first at-bat and then boo him the same as every other player after that. If he gets a big hit or knocks one out, they’ll tear into him though.[/quote]

If they play Torres I doubt it’ll be against lefties.

By the way, I really want to party with Brian Wilson.

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I picked the Phillies because of the names on that team, but neglected the fact most of their position players were having below average years statistically (something I missed since I’m not a follower of NL baseball).

The Rangers on the other hand aren’t in that same boat. Most of their lineup has had good to great years and their pitching is pretty good. I would consider CJ Wilson one of the top 3 lefty SPs in the AL.

Giants best hitter: 23 year old rookie

Rangers best hitter : AL MVP 2010

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[quote]therajraj wrote:
I picked the Phillies because of the names on that team, but neglected the fact most of their position players were having below average years statistically (something I missed since I’m not a follower of NL baseball).

The Rangers on the other hand aren’t in that same boat. Most of their lineup has had good to great years and their pitching is pretty good. I would consider CJ Wilson one of the top 3 lefty SPs in the AL.

Giants best hitter: 23 year old rookie

Rangers best hitter : AL MVP 2010[/quote]

You were not the only one to pick the Phillies. Actually most of the national sports press did. They also picked the Braves for their matchup against the Giants.

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[quote]Hallowed wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:
I picked the Phillies because of the names on that team, but neglected the fact most of their position players were having below average years statistically (something I missed since I’m not a follower of NL baseball).

The Rangers on the other hand aren’t in that same boat. Most of their lineup has had good to great years and their pitching is pretty good. I would consider CJ Wilson one of the top 3 lefty SPs in the AL.

Giants best hitter: 23 year old rookie

Rangers best hitter : AL MVP 2010[/quote]

You were not the only one to pick the Phillies. Actually most of the national sports press did. They also picked the Braves for their matchup against the Giants.[/quote]

lol yeah, the ESPN “experts” are abysmal predictors. A couple picked the Giants to win it all at the beginning of the playoffs and none predicted the Rangers:

Jim Caple picked the Giants to win the World Series at the beginning of the season which I thought was pretty cool. Unfortunately he changed his vote to the Phillies at the beginning of the playoffs.

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[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]Hallowed wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:
I picked the Phillies because of the names on that team, but neglected the fact most of their position players were having below average years statistically (something I missed since I’m not a follower of NL baseball).

The Rangers on the other hand aren’t in that same boat. Most of their lineup has had good to great years and their pitching is pretty good. I would consider CJ Wilson one of the top 3 lefty SPs in the AL.

Giants best hitter: 23 year old rookie

Rangers best hitter : AL MVP 2010[/quote]

You were not the only one to pick the Phillies. Actually most of the national sports press did. They also picked the Braves for their matchup against the Giants.[/quote]

lol yeah, the ESPN “experts” are abysmal predictors. A couple picked the Giants to win it all at the beginning of the playoffs and none predicted the Rangers:

Jim Caple picked the Giants to win the World Series at the beginning of the season which I thought was pretty cool. Unfortunately he changed his vote to the Phillies at the beginning of the playoffs.

[/quote]

I think WestCoast posted upthread somewhere that a video game predicted the Giants. (sorry not up on my video game news but I remember thinking they were about the only ones predicting that at the time)

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[quote]Hallowed wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:
I picked the Phillies because of the names on that team, but neglected the fact most of their position players were having below average years statistically (something I missed since I’m not a follower of NL baseball).

The Rangers on the other hand aren’t in that same boat. Most of their lineup has had good to great years and their pitching is pretty good. I would consider CJ Wilson one of the top 3 lefty SPs in the AL.

Giants best hitter: 23 year old rookie

Rangers best hitter : AL MVP 2010[/quote]

You were not the only one to pick the Phillies. Actually most of the national sports press did. They also picked the Braves for their matchup against the Giants.[/quote]

People picked the Braves over the Giants?? Everybody I talked to before the series thought the Giants would sweep them.

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I’m just glad its not Phillies/Yankees. Get some new names in the national media conversation.

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[quote]WestCoast7 wrote:
Now that’s a beautiful sight.[/quote]

Giants fans are so dumb they have to print “THIS IS YOUR TICKET” all over the damn thing!

/bitter Phillies fan.

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[quote]LankyMofo wrote:

[quote]WestCoast7 wrote:
Now that’s a beautiful sight.[/quote]

Giants fans are so dumb they have to print “THIS IS YOUR TICKET” all over the damn thing!

/bitter Phillies fan.[/quote]

At least I can get a World Series ticket with my teams name on it.

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[quote]Hallowed wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]Hallowed wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:
I picked the Phillies because of the names on that team, but neglected the fact most of their position players were having below average years statistically (something I missed since I’m not a follower of NL baseball).

The Rangers on the other hand aren’t in that same boat. Most of their lineup has had good to great years and their pitching is pretty good. I would consider CJ Wilson one of the top 3 lefty SPs in the AL.

Giants best hitter: 23 year old rookie

Rangers best hitter : AL MVP 2010[/quote]

You were not the only one to pick the Phillies. Actually most of the national sports press did. They also picked the Braves for their matchup against the Giants.[/quote]

lol yeah, the ESPN “experts” are abysmal predictors. A couple picked the Giants to win it all at the beginning of the playoffs and none predicted the Rangers:

Jim Caple picked the Giants to win the World Series at the beginning of the season which I thought was pretty cool. Unfortunately he changed his vote to the Phillies at the beginning of the playoffs.

[/quote]

I think WestCoast posted upthread somewhere that a video game predicted the Giants. (sorry not up on my video game news but I remember thinking they were about the only ones predicting that at the time)
[/quote]

Yea I did. Computer science is where it’s at, humans don’t know what’s up.

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[quote]WestCoast7 wrote:

[quote]LankyMofo wrote:

[quote]WestCoast7 wrote:
Now that’s a beautiful sight.[/quote]

Giants fans are so dumb they have to print “THIS IS YOUR TICKET” all over the damn thing!

/bitter Phillies fan.[/quote]

At least I can get a World Series ticket with my teams name on it.[/quote]

Oh, I’ve got the ticket!