[quote]eeu743 wrote:
Man…that was deep/interesting. Sheesh.
So…MLB. I think Lawrie will be starting today? I know he was supposed to come up like a month ago but got hurt. Obviously I haven’t seen him play at the AAA level or anything, but people are freaking out about this kid.
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Yeah, he will play 3rd base the rest of the season and Bautista will be moving back to RF. Travis Snider has been optioned back to AAA.
[quote]DBCooper wrote:
[quote]WestCoast7 wrote:
The Giants need to bring Bonds back.
Man I miss that bat.[/quote]
Fuck. That. The Giants need a cancer on their team like I need a .22 caliber bullet bouncing around in my brainpan.
Look at the A’s and the Padres. Both of those teams fucking suck cock. And yet they have the same basic team that the Giants have: great pitching and anemic hitting. Yet the Giants are WAY better than both of those teams. Who knows why that is, but perhaps a large part of it is that they don’t have the chemistry that the Giants have. Not to say that the Padres and A’s have BAD chemistry; it’s just not as good as the Giants. I think that is part of the reason why they seem to do so well in close games.
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The A’s don’t win because it’s extremely difficult to succeed without a good offense in the AL. This type of team would tough in a 7 game series, but you can’t hide bad offense with great pitching over the course of 162 games in the AL.
[quote]DBCooper wrote:
[quote]eeu743 wrote:
Man…that was deep/interesting. Sheesh.
So…MLB. I think Lawrie will be starting today? I know he was supposed to come up like a month ago but got hurt. Obviously I haven’t seen him play at the AAA level or anything, but people are freaking out about this kid.
Jiminez makes his first start as an Indian tonight.
Giants might not make the playoffs?[/quote]
They’ll make it. I think. I hope.
I don’t think the Giants are done making moves yet, so there’s always the possibility that they pick up another bat. Virtually any catcher that gets released is going to find interest from the Giants since literally every starting catcher in the bigs can hit better than the combo of Chris Stewart and Eli Whiteside.
What pisses me off is that they keep playing Huff and they just optioned Belt back to Triple A after activating Mark DeRosa off the 60-day DL. That guy can’t hit for shit and I really don’t see any value he brings to the team. They say he’ll play first base to spell Huff every once in a while and give them a right-handed option over there. Great. Now they can run a lefty AND a righty out there at first who suck cock for a couple million a year. Belt is the best defensive option they have for first base and I have a hard time believing the guy can’t hit slightly less pathetically than Huff has this season.
Fuck Huff, fuck Torres, fuck Rowand and FUCK Zito. I am so glad the Giants’ management had the balls to tell him he’d better think up some fantasy injury he suffered in his last start so they could put him on the DL. If only they had a 3-year DL for that fagot.[/quote]
IMO the Giants may cost themselves a playoff spot playing the “not so dynamic duo” over Belt for several months. That could easily cost a couple wins.
[quote]therajraj wrote:
[quote]DBCooper wrote:
[quote]therajraj wrote:
There was a guy in my accounting program who had a similar story to you. He was drafted by the Atlanta Braves, got a free ride at Berkley out of it, then blew out his shoulder in college.
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Regarding your first post: No prob. I guess I had it coming anyways, since I seem to remember saying something about pushing buttons in order to provoke conversation in this thread.
Regarding your second post: the only teams that can draft you are major league teams.
Regarding this post: That sort of shit happens all the time. It’s sad and it makes me wonder how many potentially-great players out there never get a chance due to injury and how many of them plunge into a downward spiral as a result of a missed opportunity.
I know a guy from a 12-step program who was a fucking stud in high school. 6’4", about 200, left-handed, threw low 90’s and absolutely dominated everyone in a VERY tough high school conference. But he was a fucking screwup. He was kicked out of high school halfway through his senior year season for repeated drug and alcohol-related incidents. Naturally, this scared away pro scouts and he went undrafted. But somehow he got invited to some sort of private tryout with the Cincinnati Reds (who had scouted him heavily his junior and senior year in high school).
So what does he do? He gets shitfaced and doesn’t even show up to the tryout. Word went around REAL quick that the guy was a total headcase and totally not worth any sort of attention, which was a moot point anyways because he never pitched competitively at any level at all ever again.
I don’t hold any illusions about my own potential. I was good enough to be a professional baseball player for sure, which is something that about 1% of the population can honestly say. I didn’t doubt my ability at all, but I also knew that I most likely wasn’t good enough to be a MAJOR LEAGUE baseball player. But I’ll never know now and it’s all my fault and that is a TOUGH pill to swallow.
I was riding a skateboard down a parking structure and I crashed hard and I was fucking flying when I crashed. I landed on my throwing arm and totaled my shoulder, broke my wrist and suffered a severe concussion. Regardless of whether or not I would have made it to the bigs I would have been drafted that year, barring injury, and I would have signed and I would have been a professional baseball player, which is something that few people can say. It was my dream and I blew it and there isn’t a day that goes by that I don’t think about it.
I don’t watch any college baseball games at all. I don’t watch the College World Series and I’ll probably never attend a college game or even a low-level minor league game unless I have to do so for someone else. I’m just not far enough removed from that level of play to watch it and actually enjoy it. The only joy I gain from baseball anymore is watching the Giants, or any other Major League game for that matter, and coaching kids.
I had the chance to coach some 13-14 year olds and also helped coach an 18 y/o Palomino team (Troy Tulowitzki played for it!) and part of the reason I decided to go back to school to earn my teaching credential was because teaching would also give me the time to coach high school baseball. That, and coaching made me realize that teaching and relating to young teenagers was something that I was very good at; it’s my “gift”.
I do believe that things happen for a reason and I firmly believe that once I start teaching and coaching again I will make a difference in the lives of many teenagers, both in the classroom and on the ballfield. I moved out of the area that I coached in but the guy I coached with is still involved with coaching and he says the kids I coached (the 13-14 year olds) still talk about what an impact I made in their lives and how good of a coach I was. I’ll openly admit that it makes me emotional to hear this sort of thing about me and I take comfort in the possibility that maybe getting hurt put me in a position to coach instead of play and that it is THIS that is my calling in life.
If I redirect even one kid who is headed down the same path that the guy I mentioned earlier went down, and if this redirection leads to him achieving some sort of dream of his, then I suppose it’s all worth it. In fact, there was a kid on one of my teams who wasn’t really any good and thought about quitting the team. But I encouraged him to keep playing and really pounded into his head the need to just do the little things right rather than try to be the star player (he was the star soccer player so not being the stud on the team was foreign to him) and he ended up doing just that. He never missed signs, he always made the routine play, he hit the cut-off man, he didn’t swing at bad pitches, he seemed to develop that baseball “instinct” and even though he still couldn’t hit water if he fell out of a boat, he was always in the starting lineup. He ended up playing in high school and his senior year he was the best player on the team and now he’s playing at a Div I AA team in Albany on a full scholarship. I need to find him on Facebook one of these days and tell him how proud I am of him.
So there’s my life story. Now back to MLB 2011. The Giants hitting is fucking pathetic and it angers me. The euphoria from last year’s Title has officially worn off and I am now back to being an eternally-pessimistic Giants fan, just like I was from April 1980 to October 2010.[/quote]
You said you probably would have been drafted again, so what team drafted you initially?
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The Twins.
[quote]scj119 wrote:
[quote]DBCooper wrote:
[quote]eeu743 wrote:
Man…that was deep/interesting. Sheesh.
So…MLB. I think Lawrie will be starting today? I know he was supposed to come up like a month ago but got hurt. Obviously I haven’t seen him play at the AAA level or anything, but people are freaking out about this kid.
Jiminez makes his first start as an Indian tonight.
Giants might not make the playoffs?[/quote]
They’ll make it. I think. I hope.
I don’t think the Giants are done making moves yet, so there’s always the possibility that they pick up another bat. Virtually any catcher that gets released is going to find interest from the Giants since literally every starting catcher in the bigs can hit better than the combo of Chris Stewart and Eli Whiteside.
What pisses me off is that they keep playing Huff and they just optioned Belt back to Triple A after activating Mark DeRosa off the 60-day DL. That guy can’t hit for shit and I really don’t see any value he brings to the team. They say he’ll play first base to spell Huff every once in a while and give them a right-handed option over there. Great. Now they can run a lefty AND a righty out there at first who suck cock for a couple million a year. Belt is the best defensive option they have for first base and I have a hard time believing the guy can’t hit slightly less pathetically than Huff has this season.
Fuck Huff, fuck Torres, fuck Rowand and FUCK Zito. I am so glad the Giants’ management had the balls to tell him he’d better think up some fantasy injury he suffered in his last start so they could put him on the DL. If only they had a 3-year DL for that fagot.[/quote]
IMO the Giants may cost themselves a playoff spot playing the “not so dynamic duo” over Belt for several months. That could easily cost a couple wins.[/quote]
Last year Sabean had to basically trade away Molina to get Bochy to play Posey regularly. Can’t break old habits I guess.
Hm, a week or so after I mentioned the extreme delay with DB Cooper’s posts, they now are showing up for me immediately.
So next to the Jayson Werth deal, who was the worst signing in the offseason?
Adam Dunn? He’s on pace for having the worst BA in the modern era.
Werth has actually been hitting well recently. Still a disappointing season, but he may yet pick it up and finish strong.
I don’t see that happening with Dunn. He looks done to me (no lame pun intended). Basically seems like he’s swinging all the time, and he occasionally gets lucky and hits one out. I mean…it’s pretty bad when your DH is the worst hitter on your team.
Uggla, like Werth, had a pretty terrible start, but he’s riding a 25 game hit streak right now and he’s been raking. I think he’ll be fine, and I think Werth will improve over the rest of this season and in to next year. I think Dunn is washed up.
[quote]DBCooper wrote:
[quote]WestCoast7 wrote:
The Giants need to bring Bonds back.
Man I miss that bat.[/quote]
Fuck. That. The Giants need a cancer on their team like I need a .22 caliber bullet bouncing around in my brainpan.
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I think you need to have a little more respect for one our greatest players ever, and the one who built AT&T Park.
One could argue that Beltran, and his large contract and superstar perception, have messed up the Giants camaraderie equally as much. Before it was simply a group of misfits and waiver wire pickups, now we’ve just thrown a high price piece in the middle of that, and expect things to just proceed forward as normal.
Would you have taken Pence over Beltran?
Giants may have Halladay or Lee’s number, but they’re looking pretty average against the great Vance Worley. Sanchez didn’t exactly do the whole “good pitching” thing that the Giants rely on. How do the SF fans feel about him?
Also I wonder if the fight is partially a result of increased tension from Manuel’s comments before? (I can’t actually watch the game, so idk exactly what happened or if something else led to it).
Lawrie had a couple hits and an RBI tonight, I think. Call me when he hits a home run or steals a base every freaking game like Desmond Jennings. I don’t know about you guys, but I find the call-up stuff really exciting. It’s fun watching a guy who may be a future star getting his feet wet.
They were showing the highlights on MLB network. Victorino didn’t show boat at all on his homerun and the close play at first with him and Sanchez seem innocent enough. I didn’t see anything that warranted getting beamed with. Pretty good brawl though. They should have let Whiteside and Victorino go at it.
[quote]WestCoast7 wrote:
[quote]DBCooper wrote:
[quote]WestCoast7 wrote:
The Giants need to bring Bonds back.
Man I miss that bat.[/quote]
Fuck. That. The Giants need a cancer on their team like I need a .22 caliber bullet bouncing around in my brainpan.
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I think you need to have a little more respect for one our greatest players ever, and the one who built AT&T Park.
One could argue that Beltran, and his large contract and superstar perception, have messed up the Giants camaraderie equally as much. Before it was simply a group of misfits and waiver wire pickups, now we’ve just thrown a high price piece in the middle of that, and expect things to just proceed forward as normal.
Would you have taken Pence over Beltran?[/quote]
I don’t need to show ANY respect toward Bonds. He has to earn my respect, just like we all need to earn the respect of anyone. You aren’t just granted universal respect at the outset of life so that it’s there only to lose. Bonds earned my respect as a PLAYER but NEVER as a person. And he lost the respect he earned from me as a player a long time ago. I don’t respect people who cheat, lie, habitually cheat on their wife and tarnish not only the game but also all of the records he holds. Just because he was a Giant doesn’t mean he gets a free pass from me for being a complete piece of shit in literally every aspect of his life. I missed him when he retired, but only because for the last several years of his career he was the ONLY thing the Giants had going for them.
I still wear my Bonds jersey, but sparingly. And if anyone calls Bonds a 'roid monkey to my face while I’m wearing it I simply inform them that it’s a BOBBY Bonds jersey.
[quote]strungoutboy21 wrote:
They were showing the highlights on MLB network. Victorino didn’t show boat at all on his homerun and the close play at first with him and Sanchez seem innocent enough. I didn’t see anything that warranted getting beamed with. Pretty good brawl though. They should have let Whiteside and Victorino go at it.[/quote]
Yeah! Whiteside would have pounded the shit out of Victorino. The guy’s like 6’3" 230. I missed the game so I don’t know what transpired, but I’ll tell you what: the Giants NEEDED this brawl to shake them out of their doldrums. I was thinking during the game last night that a good old-fashioned brawl was in order, regardless of who it was against. From what I’ve seen on TV it was a pretty good one too!
[quote]eeu743 wrote:
Lawrie had a couple hits and an RBI tonight, I think. Call me when he hits a home run or steals a base every freaking game like Desmond Jennings. I don’t know about you guys, but I find the call-up stuff really exciting. It’s fun watching a guy who may be a future star getting his feet wet.
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The guy can run from Home plate to 1st in 3.8 seconds which is incredible for a RIGHT handed hitter.
[quote]therajraj wrote:
[quote]eeu743 wrote:
Lawrie had a couple hits and an RBI tonight, I think. Call me when he hits a home run or steals a base every freaking game like Desmond Jennings. I don’t know about you guys, but I find the call-up stuff really exciting. It’s fun watching a guy who may be a future star getting his feet wet.
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The guy can run from Home plate to 1st in 3.8 seconds which is incredible for a RIGHT handed hitter.[/quote]
Mickey Mantle could do it in 3.1 seconds. Seriously. But anything under 4 seconds is FAST.
[quote]DBCooper wrote:
[quote]WestCoast7 wrote:
[quote]DBCooper wrote:
[quote]WestCoast7 wrote:
The Giants need to bring Bonds back.
Man I miss that bat.[/quote]
Fuck. That. The Giants need a cancer on their team like I need a .22 caliber bullet bouncing around in my brainpan.
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I think you need to have a little more respect for one our greatest players ever, and the one who built AT&T Park.
One could argue that Beltran, and his large contract and superstar perception, have messed up the Giants camaraderie equally as much. Before it was simply a group of misfits and waiver wire pickups, now we’ve just thrown a high price piece in the middle of that, and expect things to just proceed forward as normal.
Would you have taken Pence over Beltran?[/quote]
I don’t need to show ANY respect toward Bonds. He has to earn my respect, just like we all need to earn the respect of anyone. You aren’t just granted universal respect at the outset of life so that it’s there only to lose. Bonds earned my respect as a PLAYER but NEVER as a person. And he lost the respect he earned from me as a player a long time ago. I don’t respect people who cheat, lie, habitually cheat on their wife and tarnish not only the game but also all of the records he holds. Just because he was a Giant doesn’t mean he gets a free pass from me for being a complete piece of shit in literally every aspect of his life. I missed him when he retired, but only because for the last several years of his career he was the ONLY thing the Giants had going for them.
I still wear my Bonds jersey, but sparingly. And if anyone calls Bonds a 'roid monkey to my face while I’m wearing it I simply inform them that it’s a BOBBY Bonds jersey.[/quote]
I was referring to him as a player, not a person, and as a player he should have every ounce of respect that you have.
Maybe we’ll just have to agree to disagree on that one, but the Giants wouldn’t have had the resources and the support they had to win a World Series if Bonds hadn’t done what he’d done for the team in terms of publicity and money.
[quote]eeu743 wrote:
Giants may have Halladay or Lee’s number, but they’re looking pretty average against the great Vance Worley. Sanchez didn’t exactly do the whole “good pitching” thing that the Giants rely on. How do the SF fans feel about him?
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I was at AT&T Park when Sanchez threw his no hitter, so that will always come to the front of my mind, but as a pitcher Sanchez is just not getting it done lately. We’re stuck though, as the other option for the five spot in our rotation is Zito…
The Phillies are rocking us though, I barely made it through watching 4 innings last night. I guess I’ll just keep waiting for Beltran to totally energize our lineup like he was supposed to…
Also glad to see the benches clear last night, the Giants should be pissed about how their getting steam rolled lately, and hopefully that will get them fired up.
The giant’s cockstroking is amazing here.
[quote]steadfastred wrote:
The giant’s cockstroking is amazing here. [/quote]
Kiss the ring.