I’m sure this has been asked & answered but I’ve been searching and not finding the answer.
Any reason why I can’t simply mix a 5,000iu vial of HCG with the 1ml of water they provided? Since I’m using insulin pins, it’s actually quite easy to dose out 250 or 500iu per injection.
Yet almost everywhere I look people recommend using much more water but without stating their rationale. Why? With only 1ml of water does it hurt more when you inject due to higher concentration? Is it less accurate when you use less water? Something I’m missing?
Because you cannot accurately administer a dose at that concentration. A syringe for such small doses does not exist as far as I know. Did you do the math? You would waste as much as you inject in every needle.
A 250 unit dose would be 0.05 mL. A 500 unit dose 0.1mL. You lose about 0.05 mL to leftover in the syringe.
Actually, I have some .3ml insulin syringes. .05ml on that is 1/6 of the whole barrel.
That said, I’d like to see about 1/3-1/2 of the syringe used. But, you can definitely do hundredths of a ml pretty accurately with the tiny .3ml syringes.
[quote]C27 H40 O3 wrote:
Because you cannot accurately administer a dose at that concentration. A syringe for such small doses does not exist as far as I know. Did you do the math? You would waste as much as you inject in every needle.
A 250 unit dose would be 0.05 mL. A 500 unit dose 0.1mL. You lose about 0.05 mL to leftover in the syringe. [/quote]
Thanks c27. I think I can accurately measure the dose though, pretty easily too. My slin pins are .5 ml, so if I want to do a .1ml dose, it’s just 1/5 of the syringe. My syringes are well-marked too, from 1-50, so it’s very easy to figure out what 1/5 or 1/10 is.
[quote]Billegitimate wrote:
Actually, I have some .3ml insulin syringes. .05ml on that is 1/6 of the whole barrel.
That said, I’d like to see about 1/3-1/2 of the syringe used. But, you can definitely do hundredths of a ml pretty accurately with the tiny .3ml syringes. [/quote]
Thanks. Why do you want to see 1/3-1/2 of the syringe though? If I only fill 1/5 or 1/10 of the syringe, what’s the problem? Seems like, if anything, injecting a lower volume of anything into your body is better. Again, honest questions, just trying to understand this stuff.
I like to see more of the syringe used just for accuracy and minimal waste. If you’re using 1/3 of a .3ml syringe to get .1ml, that’s going to be pretty dang close to .1ml. You have 1/3 of the barrel length to measure with.
If you try to put in .1ml with a 5ml syringe, it’s going to be VERY hard to be accurate. That would be 1/50th of the barrel instead of 1/3 of the barrel.
If I’m off by a millimeter in where the plunger is, that would make me off about 10% on the .3ml syringe and off by about 100% on the 5ml syringe.
Think of it this way: Imagine I wanted to make a recipe calling for a tablespoon of oil. I could use a tablespoon and be perfectly accurate. I could use a two tablespoon scoop and try to get about half of that and be pretty accurate. Or I could use a measuring cup and try to get 1/16 of a cup, which is actually 1 tablespoon. I’m pretty sure that trying to measure 1/16 of a cup is going to easily vary between 1/2 tablespoon and 2 tablespoons depending on who’s doing the measuring.
So, If I was injecting .05-.2ml I’d use a .3ml syringe. For .2-.4 I’d use a .5ml syringe. For .4-.8 I’d use 1ml syringes, etc.
Finally, for thicker liquids such as the oil used for testosterone cypionate, the smaller the syringe the smaller the diameter of the barrel, and the greater pressure developed. I can easily inject .25ml of t-cyp from a .3ml syringe with a 31gauge 5/16" needle. The pressure with that tiny cross section barrel will easily push it out. Try the same thing with a 1ml syringe and a 31g or even 30g needle. It’s very difficult to get enough pressure to inject.
Get the smallest volume syringe for the amount you’re injecting, and get the smallest gauge needle that works with it. Minimize the pain, make the injections easy.
Cool thanks, that was helpful. Instead of 1ml water, I’m going to use 2ml water for my 5,000iu HCG, which will make 2500iu per cc (ml). Plan to inject .15ml (375iu) twice per week, which will be about 1/3 of the syringe since I’m using 1/2cc slin pins.