[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
[quote]pat wrote:
Lv 19:17 - You shall not hate your brother in your heart, but you shall reason frankly with your neighbor, lest you incur sin because of him.[/quote]
I don’t.
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Not what you said…There were many others I just don’t have time to gather them all. Considering last time I did, you just pissed on it and went on an anti-Catholic rant, it’s pretty pointless.
Really it won’t be good? Or you don’t have any real answers or proof, or they are flat out lies and hate based on nothing. Scripture carries no weight with me? What? I read scripture all the time, and I don’t have to justify myself to you, I don’t hate your church. I have been to an all black Baptist church before and enjoyed the experience. I was inspired by their faith, but they showed no ill will. I call you out now, prove this supposed evil, use scripture, facts and/ or logic. It’s to your shame if you cannot do it.
You cannot just say the things you said with no backup. You have provided no proof what-so-ever. So it must be a blind irrational hate, you plan on carrying to your grave with no backing? Sorry, but that’s just sad.
Why are you so obsessed with a building? It’s Cathedral first, second, it’s a country unto itself, and it has been built up over time through out history. What’s the big deal. Blow up the Vatican, we’ll still have a Church. I live in the bible belt, the biggest buildings with the largest swathes of land are Baptist Churches. So what? If the building makes the church, the church isn’t worth dogshit. I say, get over it. It’s a big beautiful, historical, and Holy place. I haven’t seen God begrudge opulent structures dedicated to Him. He didn’t in the OT or the NT. The Vatican and will be gone one day, just as every temple before. So what, the Church remains.
IF there were a prophetic passage of God breathed scripture that read: [quote]Thus saith the Lord God of Israel. it shall come to pass in Rome, that an abomination in my sight calling herself my most holy one true apostolic church at the address of Vatican City State, 00120 Italy will arise deceiving men and committing whoredoms with the nations of the world. She shall build for herself using my name a temple like unto baal not seen since the very beginning and she shall do this by shamelessly fleecing the poor using fraud and deceit barely measured among the heathen.
She shall exalt herself in the place of the Most High declaring vain canons of law that I did not teach her as the very words of the Lord making naught of my statutes and thereby leading into bondage and death a multitude that can not be numbered among men. Do not go after her my people lest thou be stained with her iniquities and be made partakers in my judgments against her.[/quote]That obviously fictitious passage if it were authentic would have zero effect on catholics because somewhere in that colossal labyrinth of “tradition”, for which a literal “canon lawyer” is required to decipher, would be some explanation you’d cling to as an answer.
Was making something up out of thin air based you your hatred, have any kind of point? What was the point of the above? It doesn’t exist, it proves nothing but that you have hate issues.
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I’ll take this, Romans 10:8-13
"8-But what does it say? “The word is near you, in your mouth and in your heart” (that is, the word of faith that we proclaim); 9-because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. 10-For with the heart one believes and is justified, and with the mouth one confesses and is saved. 11-For the Scripture says, “Everyone who believes in him will not be put to shame.” 12-For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek; for the same Lord is Lord of all, bestowing his riches on all who call on him. 13-For “everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.”
But I have no “canon lawyer” to explain to me that the faithful also require a mountain of ceremony while Aborigines need to not even REALLY call on His name. I know, there’s more than one way to know Christ right? God almighty that’s a damnable lie. People are perishing because of it. I still have some of my biblical refutations for your attempts to establish this from scripture, but they won’t do any good. If what I’m saying were true this is anything but hate. I KNOW, it’s not, but I believe it is and my intention, which is what should be measured since they’re my words is not hateful to you in the least.[/quote]
I am 100% on board with the Romans quote. I don’t see how this proves the Catholic Church is evil or satan’s tool or any justification for your hate.
There is plenty of ceremony and pomp and circumstance in evangelical traditions as well. I don’t see how that proves a damn thing.
There are more ways to know Christ then to ram a bible down so one’s throat and tell them “Read it or be damned”. Further, I proved it with scripture; yet, you did not or cannot refute it. So you rant aimlessly, with out cause or reason. This should be alarming to rational thought.
I cannot believe, somebody who claims to be a Christian, would harbor so much hate for fellow Christians. To be so small minded in matters of faith makes me thing you do not understand this stuff. When I said some people can read the Bible and not understand it, I was talking about you. This hate you have is your burden and your own crushing weight that you give as much credence as one would their own child, swearing to carry it, no matter what, to your grave. That is a sad, sad thing.