[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Also, I don’t think we are comparing apples to apples. It looks like one is an envelope ($.48) and one is a package. Two completely different things.
I went to FED EX and go the cheapest price for an envelope I could find . It is possible FED EX does not offer an apple
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They might not, which is why I said the comparision is probably not a good one. [/quote]
Why would they? They don’t have taxpayers to subsidize their overhead, so they can’t compete with the point of sale price of the USPS.
If the USPS went away, you bet they would ship the shit out of postcards and other such items. [/quote]
I am sure the tax payer bought the infrastructure of the USPS but now that infrastructure would be priceless . The power of the collective
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Ah yes, the collective. Because most of the people who make the decisions on how to spend tax dollars have the best interest of the public in mind. You would be delusional to think that the people who made the decisions on infrastructure did not have a capitalistic reasoning behind it.
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Also, I don’t think we are comparing apples to apples. It looks like one is an envelope ($.48) and one is a package. Two completely different things.
I went to FED EX and go the cheapest price for an envelope I could find . It is possible FED EX does not offer an apple
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They might not, which is why I said the comparision is probably not a good one. [/quote]
Why would they? They don’t have taxpayers to subsidize their overhead, so they can’t compete with the point of sale price of the USPS.
If the USPS went away, you bet they would ship the shit out of postcards and other such items. [/quote]
I am sure the tax payer bought the infrastructure of the USPS but now that infrastructure would be priceless . The power of the collective
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Ah yes, the collective. Because most of the people who make the decisions on how to spend tax dollars have the best interest of the public in mind. You would be delusional to think that the people who made the decisions on infrastructure did not have a capitalistic reasoning behind it.
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IMO I would agree with your sarcasm for now , I do how ever believe that there were times in history where we had people that had our best interests at heart
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
the USPS has massive infrastructure and with a price increase to a dollar they would not only show profit they could start paying America back [/quote]
Massive infrastrucutre costs massive dollars to maintain.
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
the USPS has massive infrastructure and with a price increase to a dollar they would not only show profit they could start paying America back [/quote]
Massive infrastrucutre costs massive dollars to maintain.[/quote]
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
the USPS has massive infrastructure and with a price increase to a dollar they would not only show profit they could start paying America back [/quote]
Massive infrastrucutre costs massive dollars to maintain.[/quote]
The post office may go the way of the buggy whip but at present it is valuable . America would have never made nor could any civilized society made it with out some similar program
I am curious if any developed country had private enterprise start their postal service
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
the USPS has massive infrastructure and with a price increase to a dollar they would not only show profit they could start paying America back [/quote]
Massive infrastrucutre costs massive dollars to maintain.[/quote]
how much
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Your local and state budgets will show it [/quote]
I doubt that is paid locally , that land and buildings are probably owed outright probably the equipment is as well
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
the USPS has massive infrastructure and with a price increase to a dollar they would not only show profit they could start paying America back [/quote]
Massive infrastrucutre costs massive dollars to maintain.[/quote]
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
The post office may go the way of the buggy whip but at present it is valuable . America would have never made nor could any civilized society made it with out some similar program
I am curious if any developed country had private enterprise start their postal service[/quote]
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
The post office may go the way of the buggy whip but at present it is valuable . America would have never made nor could any civilized society made it with out some similar program
I am curious if any developed country had private enterprise start their postal service[/quote]
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
the USPS has massive infrastructure and with a price increase to a dollar they would not only show profit they could start paying America back [/quote]
Massive infrastrucutre costs massive dollars to maintain.[/quote]
how much
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Your local and state budgets will show it [/quote]
I doubt that is paid locally , that land and buildings are probably owed outright probably the equipment is as well
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Huh?
Roads are paved by local (regional at time) companies. The municipality bids it out to local contractors, who are then paid with tax payer appropriated funds.
This is how 100% of the roads are built. With machines and workforce privately employed and paid for by the citizens.
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
The post office may go the way of the buggy whip but at present it is valuable . America would have never made nor could any civilized society made it with out some similar program
I am curious if any developed country had private enterprise start their postal service[/quote]
Was the Pony Express private?[/quote]
looks private [/quote]
I was thinking the Pony Express may count, but the USPS looks to outdate it.
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
The post office may go the way of the buggy whip but at present it is valuable . America would have never made nor could any civilized society made it with out some similar program
I am curious if any developed country had private enterprise start their postal service[/quote]
Was the Pony Express private?[/quote]
looks private [/quote]
I was thinking the Pony Express may count, but the USPS looks to outdate it. [/quote]
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
The post office may go the way of the buggy whip but at present it is valuable . America would have never made nor could any civilized society made it with out some similar program
I am curious if any developed country had private enterprise start their postal service[/quote]
Was the Pony Express private?[/quote]
looks private [/quote]
I was thinking the Pony Express may count, but the USPS looks to outdate it. [/quote]
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
The post office may go the way of the buggy whip but at present it is valuable . America would have never made nor could any civilized society made it with out some similar program
I am curious if any developed country had private enterprise start their postal service[/quote]
Was the Pony Express private?[/quote]
looks private [/quote]
I was thinking the Pony Express may count, but the USPS looks to outdate it. [/quote]
Ya, I saw that. I was think the Ponny Express may have become the USPS, but that is obviously not true. It was dumb on part. I wasn’t thinking. [/quote]
[quote]Aragorn wrote:
Everybody does have access. It’s called education and work ethic. You make choices to limit your access by skipping school, dropping out, or having unprotected sex at age 16 and getting pregnant. Even then, if you have work ethic you can make it happen–I know a number of single moms, some of them getting pregnant at an early age. They still went on to get educations and jobs through college or vocational schools.
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It’s not that simple. People who grew up in good environments like to say things like that as if, had they been raised in Detroit by a single mother, aged 25, with 5 other kids, they would have still made the same choices they did when in the better environment. The reality is those good choices we made as kids were actually made for us by our parents or made because of their influence. We also had a community that was on the same page in that regard. It would be wrong to underestimate the effects of culture and environment especially when it comes to young people who lack the ability and experience to be aware of the influence those factors have upon them.
I actually believe from having worked in the inner cities and having lived there that there are deliberately placed obstacles to keep people from getting out. Try standing in front of a class of HS kids who read at a 2nd grade level and see if you don’t ask yourself if something is really wrong at a deeper level than we care to admit. This isn’t the work of lazy teachers who pass kids for the hell of it but a system that is designed to make sure there will be a steady supply of failures. [/quote]
This is parental failure at its finest. Pure and simple. Again explain why I NEED and SHOULD have to pay for other people’s failures or flat out irresponsibility and stupid life decisions. How a child does in school at a young age and on is mostly due to their parental involvement. Teachers, even exceptional ones can only do so much.
Personal responsibility is tough, but there needs to be more of it.
