Minimum Wage, Again

Off Topic Politics & World Issues
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[quote]Bauber wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]NickViar wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
I guess I will be a bit of a troll and post an obviously bias post :slight_smile: But it is a good one

http://www.lewrockwell.com/2014/01/patrick-j-buchanan/crisis-or-scam/[/quote]

A family of four probably are living in poverty at $44,000
[/quote]

Then they shouldn’t have had kids they can’t pay for. To me it is very simple. If you can’t afford kids without government assistance - don’t have them. Personal responsibility.[/quote]

I am glad you brought this up , IN THE HOOD , Youngstown OH , Flint MI, and the like they are
working on 2nd generation with out the possibility of affording a family , Thanks RONNY REAGAN. The steel mills vacuum has never been filled and never will . So what do you get when there are a lot of marriage age you men and no work ? Blight, Crime , Gangs and Drugs

If defense of people having kids they can no longer afford , SHIT happens , Circumstances change

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[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]Bauber wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]NickViar wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
I guess I will be a bit of a troll and post an obviously bias post :slight_smile: But it is a good one

http://www.lewrockwell.com/2014/01/patrick-j-buchanan/crisis-or-scam/[/quote]

A family of four probably are living in poverty at $44,000
[/quote]

Then they shouldn’t have had kids they can’t pay for. To me it is very simple. If you can’t afford kids without government assistance - don’t have them. Personal responsibility.[/quote]

I am glad you brought this up , IN THE HOOD , Youngstown OH , Flint MI, and the like they are
working on 2nd generation with out the possibility of affording a family , Thanks RONNY REAGAN. The steel mills vacuum has never been filled and never will . So what do you get when there are a lot of marriage age you men and no work ? Blight, Crime , Gangs and Drugs

If defense of people having kids they can no longer afford , SHIT happens , Circumstances change
[/quote]

I bet you believe that Ronald Reagan had a crack lab in the basement of the White House and after infusing the crack with AIDS had it distributed to inner city schools.

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[quote]cwill1973 wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]Bauber wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]NickViar wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
I guess I will be a bit of a troll and post an obviously bias post :slight_smile: But it is a good one

http://www.lewrockwell.com/2014/01/patrick-j-buchanan/crisis-or-scam/[/quote]

A family of four probably are living in poverty at $44,000
[/quote]

Then they shouldn’t have had kids they can’t pay for. To me it is very simple. If you can’t afford kids without government assistance - don’t have them. Personal responsibility.[/quote]

I am glad you brought this up , IN THE HOOD , Youngstown OH , Flint MI, and the like they are
working on 2nd generation with out the possibility of affording a family , Thanks RONNY REAGAN. The steel mills vacuum has never been filled and never will . So what do you get when there are a lot of marriage age you men and no work ? Blight, Crime , Gangs and Drugs

If defense of people having kids they can no longer afford , SHIT happens , Circumstances change
[/quote]

I bet you believe that Ronald Reagan had a crack lab in the basement of the White House and after infusing the crack with AIDS had it distributed to inner city schools.
[/quote]

No but I think they dealt drugs and probably still are

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[quote]pittbulll wrote:
I am glad you brought this up , IN THE HOOD , Youngstown OH , Flint MI, and the like they are
working on 2nd generation with out the possibility of affording a family , Thanks RONNY REAGAN. The steel mills vacuum has never been filled and never will . So what do you get when there are a lot of marriage age you men and no work ? Blight, Crime , Gangs and Drugs

If defense of people having kids they can no longer afford , SHIT happens , Circumstances change
[/quote]

Can you explain what Reagan did to cause steel mills to close?

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[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]Bauber wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]NickViar wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
I guess I will be a bit of a troll and post an obviously bias post :slight_smile: But it is a good one

http://www.lewrockwell.com/2014/01/patrick-j-buchanan/crisis-or-scam/[/quote]

A family of four probably are living in poverty at $44,000
[/quote]

Then they shouldn’t have had kids they can’t pay for. To me it is very simple. If you can’t afford kids without government assistance - don’t have them. Personal responsibility.[/quote]

If defense of people having kids they can no longer afford , SHIT happens , Circumstances change
[/quote]

Kids just don’t happen. You have to make a conscious decision to procreate without any form of birth control. Having a kid is not some random act that befalls you. Again personal responsibility stop blame shifting.

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[quote]Bauber wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]Bauber wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]NickViar wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
I guess I will be a bit of a troll and post an obviously bias post :slight_smile: But it is a good one

http://www.lewrockwell.com/2014/01/patrick-j-buchanan/crisis-or-scam/[/quote]

A family of four probably are living in poverty at $44,000
[/quote]

Then they shouldn’t have had kids they can’t pay for. To me it is very simple. If you can’t afford kids without government assistance - don’t have them. Personal responsibility.[/quote]

If defense of people having kids they can no longer afford , SHIT happens , Circumstances change
[/quote]

Kids just don’t happen. You have to make a conscious decision to procreate without any form of birth control. Having a kid is not some random act that befalls you. Again personal responsibility stop blame shifting.[/quote]

I will try not to sound condescending . There are many issues with your statement

1rst Circumstances change , you may have a great job today , maybe not tomorrow .

2nd the only things I know that can trump Gods word about “Be fruitful and multiply” Ia (A) Education and (B) Birth Control. Other than those two things people are the work of multiplication :)with no intent of a BABY

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[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]Bauber wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]Bauber wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]NickViar wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
I guess I will be a bit of a troll and post an obviously bias post :slight_smile: But it is a good one

http://www.lewrockwell.com/2014/01/patrick-j-buchanan/crisis-or-scam/[/quote]

A family of four probably are living in poverty at $44,000
[/quote]

Then they shouldn’t have had kids they can’t pay for. To me it is very simple. If you can’t afford kids without government assistance - don’t have them. Personal responsibility.[/quote]

If defense of people having kids they can no longer afford , SHIT happens , Circumstances change
[/quote]

Kids just don’t happen. You have to make a conscious decision to procreate without any form of birth control. Having a kid is not some random act that befalls you. Again personal responsibility stop blame shifting.[/quote]

I will try not to sound condescending . There are many issues with your statement

1rst Circumstances change , you may have a great job today , maybe not tomorrow .

2nd the only things I know that can trump Gods word about “Be fruitful and multiply” Ia (A) Education and (B) Birth Control. Other than those two things people are the work of multiplication :)with no intent of a BABY

[/quote]

Losing a job and having a baby do not correlate in the least on terms of things within your control. And most of the people we are talking about with a bunch of kids did not start with some great job that could support tons of children and then lost it.

And last time I checked “be fruitful and multiply” did not follow with and “leach from those around you to take care of your multiplications while you keep multiplying”.

And it is hard to sound condescending when you have zero understanding of rudimentary logic.

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[quote]Bauber wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]Bauber wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]Bauber wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]NickViar wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
I guess I will be a bit of a troll and post an obviously bias post :slight_smile: But it is a good one

http://www.lewrockwell.com/2014/01/patrick-j-buchanan/crisis-or-scam/[/quote]

A family of four probably are living in poverty at $44,000
[/quote]

Then they shouldn’t have had kids they can’t pay for. To me it is very simple. If you can’t afford kids without government assistance - don’t have them. Personal responsibility.[/quote]

If defense of people having kids they can no longer afford , SHIT happens , Circumstances change
[/quote]

Kids just don’t happen. You have to make a conscious decision to procreate without any form of birth control. Having a kid is not some random act that befalls you. Again personal responsibility stop blame shifting.[/quote]

I will try not to sound condescending . There are many issues with your statement

1rst Circumstances change , you may have a great job today , maybe not tomorrow .

2nd the only things I know that can trump Gods word about “Be fruitful and multiply” Ia (A) Education and (B) Birth Control. Other than those two things people are the work of multiplication :)with no intent of a BABY

[/quote]

Losing a job and having a baby do not correlate in the least on terms of things within your control. And most of the people we are talking about with a bunch of kids did not start with some great job that could support tons of children and then lost it.

And last time I checked “be fruitful and multiply” did not follow with and “leach from those around you to take care of your multiplications while you keep multiplying”.

And it is hard to sound condescending when you have zero understanding of rudimentary logic.[/quote]

I think pitt is talking about a situation where you have a kid and you can afford it, the you lose your job somewhat permanently i.e. your entire career becomes obsolete, injury at work cripples you etc. In any case the majority of people that have more kids than they can afford are not in this situation, they are often just irresponsible

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[quote]Bauber wrote:

Losing a job and having a baby do not correlate in the least on terms of things within your control. And most of the people we are talking about with a bunch of kids did not start with some great job that could support tons of children and then lost it.

And last time I checked “be fruitful and multiply” did not follow with and “leach from those around you to take care of your multiplications while you keep multiplying”.

And it is hard to sound condescending when you have zero understanding of rudimentary logic.[/quote]

You are a wise one please tell me your secret on how you acquired this vast store of wisdom in such a short period .

You tell me when you are my age that you intended to have all your children and you have never lost a good job . And I won’t believe you . I have 2 kids both older than you :slight_smile: My Grand Daughter is close to your age

It is possible that you are not sexually active and do not grasp the DEEP INSTINCTIVE DRIVE . That is my guess .

No one suggested any one leach of you or anyone else . My point was that the Ghettos are full of people that want no chidren or wife for that matter , they can not afford it

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[quote]pittbulll wrote:
My point was that the Ghettos are full of people that want no chidren or wife for that matter , they can not afford it
[/quote]

Really? You know this how?

And no wiki links
haha

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[quote]UtahLama wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
My point was that the Ghettos are full of people that want no chidren or wife for that matter , they can not afford it
[/quote]

Really? You know this how?

And no wiki links
haha[/quote]

I am not stuck up in the sticks , I am from Youngstown OH . I travel extensively . This is where in other threads no one can grasp why blacks perpetrate more crime than whites .

Mahoning Valley - Wikipedia

Chicago, Detroit and many more cities are caught with nothing filling the void where Steel once was

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[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]UtahLama wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
My point was that the Ghettos are full of people that want no chidren or wife for that matter , they can not afford it
[/quote]

Really? You know this how?

And no wiki links
haha[/quote]

I am not stuck up in the sticks , I am from Youngstown OH . I travel extensively . This is where in other threads no one can grasp why blacks perpetrate more crime than whites .

Mahoning Valley - Wikipedia

Chicago, Detroit and many more cities are caught with nothing filling the void where Steel once was

[/quote]

You still haven’t told me how Reagan drove out the steel from the upper Midwest.

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[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]UtahLama wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
My point was that the Ghettos are full of people that want no chidren or wife for that matter , they can not afford it
[/quote]

Really? You know this how?

And no wiki links
haha[/quote]

I am not stuck up in the sticks , I am from Youngstown OH . I travel extensively . This is where in other threads no one can grasp why blacks perpetrate more crime than whites .

Mahoning Valley - Wikipedia

Chicago, Detroit and many more cities are caught with nothing filling the void where Steel once was

[/quote]

Was just wondering how you knew that poor folk were not having kids or getting married
because they were poor?

The question had nothing to do with crime.

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[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]Bauber wrote:

Losing a job and having a baby do not correlate in the least on terms of things within your control. And most of the people we are talking about with a bunch of kids did not start with some great job that could support tons of children and then lost it.

And last time I checked “be fruitful and multiply” did not follow with and “leach from those around you to take care of your multiplications while you keep multiplying”.

And it is hard to sound condescending when you have zero understanding of rudimentary logic.[/quote]

You are a wise one please tell me your secret on how you acquired this vast store of wisdom in such a short period .

You tell me when you are my age that you intended to have all your children and you have never lost a good job . And I won’t believe you . I have 2 kids both older than you :slight_smile: My Grand Daughter is close to your age

It is possible that you are not sexually active and do not grasp the DEEP INSTINCTIVE DRIVE . That is my guess .

No one suggested any one leach of you or anyone else . My point was that the Ghettos are full of people that want no chidren or wife for that matter , they can not afford it
[/quote]

I acquired my wisdom by being raised correctly and taking responsibility for my actions.

I said deciding to have children and losing a job are not in the same category. Having children is within your control, period. Losing a job not so much. Pretty simple I think. And living a long time/age does not make you automatically wise or right on every subject. Findstein, Reid, Pelosi anyone?

I understand the deep instinctual drive completely, but I also have a higher functioning brain than other animals. So basically you are saying most people who are poor in the ghetto can’t control their primal urges and are subhuman? If you can’t control your penis/ vagina or be smart enough to use protection, I have no sympathy for your plight.

Okay they want no children then why are they turning them out like hotpockets?

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[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]UtahLama wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
My point was that the Ghettos are full of people that want no chidren or wife for that matter , they can not afford it
[/quote]

Really? You know this how?

And no wiki links
haha[/quote]

I am not stuck up in the sticks , I am from Youngstown OH . I travel extensively . This is where in other threads no one can grasp why blacks perpetrate more crime than whites .

Mahoning Valley - Wikipedia

Chicago, Detroit and many more cities are caught with nothing filling the void where Steel once was
[/quote]

So it is Reagan’s fault and the lack of steel jobs as to why they are committing so many crimes and having tons of children? Really? Do you believe in personal responsibility at all?

One would think at your age, maturity, and with kids / grandkids you would have a grasp or inkling of what personal responsibility is.

And no I have never lost a job because I work for myself and hold my future in my own hands.

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[quote]Bauber wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]UtahLama wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
My point was that the Ghettos are full of people that want no chidren or wife for that matter , they can not afford it
[/quote]

Really? You know this how?

And no wiki links
haha[/quote]

I am not stuck up in the sticks , I am from Youngstown OH . I travel extensively . This is where in other threads no one can grasp why blacks perpetrate more crime than whites .

Mahoning Valley - Wikipedia

Chicago, Detroit and many more cities are caught with nothing filling the void where Steel once was
[/quote]

So it is Reagan’s fault and the lack of steel jobs as to why they are committing so many crimes and having tons of children? Really? Do you believe in personal responsibility at all?

One would think at your age, maturity, and with kids / grandkids you would have a grasp or inkling of what personal responsibility is.

And no I have never lost a job because I work for myself and hold my future in my own hands.[/quote]

What I believe is you are a sniveling little girl

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[quote]Bauber wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]Bauber wrote:

Losing a job and having a baby do not correlate in the least on terms of things within your control. And most of the people we are talking about with a bunch of kids did not start with some great job that could support tons of children and then lost it.

And last time I checked “be fruitful and multiply” did not follow with and “leach from those around you to take care of your multiplications while you keep multiplying”.

And it is hard to sound condescending when you have zero understanding of rudimentary logic.[/quote]

You are a wise one please tell me your secret on how you acquired this vast store of wisdom in such a short period .

You tell me when you are my age that you intended to have all your children and you have never lost a good job . And I won’t believe you . I have 2 kids both older than you :slight_smile: My Grand Daughter is close to your age

It is possible that you are not sexually active and do not grasp the DEEP INSTINCTIVE DRIVE . That is my guess .

No one suggested any one leach of you or anyone else . My point was that the Ghettos are full of people that want no chidren or wife for that matter , they can not afford it
[/quote]

I acquired my wisdom by being raised correctly and taking responsibility for my actions.

I said deciding to have children and losing a job are not in the same category. Having children is within your control, period. Losing a job not so much. Pretty simple I think. And living a long time/age does not make you automatically wise or right on every subject. Findstein, Reid, Pelosi anyone?

I understand the deep instinctual drive completely, but I also have a higher functioning brain than other animals. So basically you are saying most people who are poor in the ghetto can’t control their primal urges and are subhuman? If you can’t control your penis/ vagina or be smart enough to use protection, I have no sympathy for your plight.

Okay they want no children then why are they turning them out like hotpockets?[/quote]

Just because poor people can put cases on their I-phones doesn’t mean they know how to use a condom.

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All this talk about personal responsibility when the discussion was no opportunity and the results

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93 percent of poor people have micro waves . The poor should have land line phones even though they are more expensive than cell phones . The poor should not have access to broad band even though that is the way most people get jobs today . Funny shit

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[quote]pittbulll wrote:
All this talk about personal responsibility when the discussion was no opportunity and the results [/quote]

Lol Pitt, you could substitute Liberal and Abortion into that pic/quote and it would fit like a glove.