Minimum Cycle for Big Gains, Tren-Test?

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I prefer to take methyltren for my protection against tren… Wait a minute

(jk I don’t take tren and probably never will… even if I was to compete) just a personal preference, given my psychiatric history I don’t think me and tren would be the best of buds. I’d be an anxious potato

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absolutely not !!! number one the only thing your running for that long is test and deca and 30lbs of LEAN muscle mass in 5 months …… not even close . most men keep 5-7 lbs when everything is said and done . so where is the other 25 lbs of lean muscle going …. you blow up like a balloon on cycle then poooof the water is gone .

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Well, literature disagrees… I’m not talking about “how much LBM can you keep post cycle”, I’m talking about how much lean tissue can you theoretically accrue on cycle (as would be measured via like a DEXA scan or something.

If you put a guy who hasn’t ever touched a weight on something absolutely retarded like

500mg test 1-15
500mg eq 1-12
400mg tren 1-12
100mg anadrol/day wks 1-5
40mg dbol wks 11-15

(yes this is a stupid cycle, immensely harmful, just a theoretical)

and the dude is like 6 foot, 140lbs, it’s VERY possible he’d come out of the cycle 170+

I reckon if I ran this (I wouldn’t though, I wouldn’t even run 500mg test as I simply can’t justify it), I’d probably come out around 185-190 (160-165 atm… height is a tad under 5’5)

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yes he or you would prob come out at that but its not 25-30lbs of LBM like you stated above , that’s all i’m saying . Weight is weight not just muscle weight .

46

I’m not short sir… I’m taller than everyone else in my imagination

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  1. Suck a lemon.
  2. That’s why ask which is the best maximum dose combo I should take and which number of cycle is better. 3 back to back cycles of 6-8 weeks or 2 b2b cycles of 10 weeks but you’re all just talking nonsense instead of answering the question.
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Because you’re asking an idiotic question , number one you don’t run back to back or back to back to back cycles . You def don’t run tren first cycle and you def don’t need to be doing any AAS cause Like I said you’re a clown that needs to research and learn not throw out a couple different cycles and say which is better ?! None , none is better . You want to do it , do 350 mgs of test e a week for 12 weeks . Then see how u like it

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Depends on your genetic makeup my man.

Normally depending on your workout routine, intensity, frequency, age you start, etc its 3-5 years for most people i think.

If you really get dedicated, have a coach, a real plan/diet (pharma help) you can get there in 1-3 years the fastest.