You never know until you try.
Although test gives you a good look into how your body is likely to react with these substances, if you start noticing problems on test, you have to think carefully if you are willing to chance it further with harder compounds.
If you are a competitor, its probably worth your risk. If you are a gym bro who wants to look good, I wouldent even begin.
Iāve used substances before related to performance enhancement. The risk/reward ratio is differently perceived from person to person. I have my own unique reasoning as to why Iāve chosen to take such a risk (primarily stemming from past insecurities and feelings of inadequacy and therapeutic effect I perceive from said substances in relation to aiding with chronic joint pain).
Iāve used
Currently on dbol 20mg/day with 150mg test/wk, Iām well aware of the risks my decisions entail. I did wish to compete originally, however after conversing with many it appears the dosages Iād have to use in order to have a shot at winning or even placing are far above what iād ever be comfortable with (for reference, I wouldnāt be comfortable with 500mg test/wk), furthermore with my joints/history of chronic pain/medical ailments itās highly likely Iād severely injure myself early on. Thereās a decent chance Iāve currently got osteoarthritis in one of my ankles at this current stage already.
Chances are Iāll be in significant pain by the time Iām 40-50, I already live day to day with chronic pain. Iām aware Iām not making good decisions here, thereās no justifying my irresponsibility
How do you like the dbol?
Feel fabulous actually, have 25.5 days to go (using for 28 days)
Using with grapefruit, grapefruit juice inhibits cyp3a4 enzyme, of which breaks down certain compounds via 6 beta hydroxylation, of which a large portion of dehydromethyltestosterone is broken down by said process. Data seems to indicate grapefruit only inhibits cyp3a4 in the small intestine (enzyme is also present in the liver) so whether this will increase the efficiency of dbol at a lower dose iām unsure, theoretically it may. Papers on other pharmaceuticals broken down by the same enzyme indicate grapefruit juice increases potency, so Yeet?
I fully disagree. I canāt handle anything over 200mg of Test but can easily go up to 900mg of Tren Ace, I would argue this game is MORE for me than anyone else. Being able to handle Tren I think seperates those that go far in this sport and those that do not. IMO.
SB
I decided Iām going to do 2 cycles back to back and thatās that. Iām used to having naturally high Test so can relate to a lot of the Superman effects so I can handle the temptation to do more cycles.
12 Week Cycle
Tren Ace, 4 times a week.
Week 1: 400mg
Week 2: 500mg
Week 3-12: 700mg.
Test Suspension Week 1-12: 100mg every day (50mg every 12hrs)
0.25mg of Cabergoline taken twice per week
Aromasin 15mg
Pct: (72hrs after cycle ends and taken EOD)
Nolvadex 100mg on 1st day
Next 10 days 60mg
Next 20 40mg
Clomid 250mg
Next 10 days 100mg
Next 20 50mg
Since itās both Tren and Test, is it worth it increasing both doses to 1000mg a day? I heard that it is quite normal for bodybuilders to take 1000mg Testosterone or more and that Tren Ace after 700mg stimulates mostly the CNS.I take good care of my liver.
Your thoughts on adding Arimasin to PCT?
Add another steroid or is that the ideal combo?
Tren at 1g? Good luck lol
Your pct is really, really bad. You do not need those doses at all. Nolva shouldnāt need to go above 40mg at any time. Itās not a case where more is better. More is just more. And Clomid at 250mg? Huge waste. Also that stuff isnāt exactly pleasant to take. Running it at 100mg/d is going to be misery and it will advance your goals by an immeasurably small amount. Do it the smart way rather than the yolo way. Youāll be much happier and youāll end up with the same result.
Tren Ace for 12 weeks? Lol. I can do about 6 weeks, 8 if I suck it up and tell myself its for the greater good. But 12 weeks? Nah.
And high tren high test, youāll last 2 weeks tops.
And you most certainly wont continue to have āhigh testā after this cycle.
SB
Ok. Iāll reduce cycle and change PCT Nolvadex to 40mg and 100mg of Clomid. No PCT Aromasin.
Some questions:
This is youāre first dabble with anabolic steroids.
This is a level of irresponsibility that would be equivalent to me watching The Dirt (Motley Crue biographical film) and thinking āwell, heroin looks fun, I should try thatā
Whatās happening to T-nation?
But you are not a real man unless you pin 1g of tren.
Thatās what HE saidā¦hahaha(gay guy hanging out in locker room)
Seriously, Iāve been wondering how Iāll feel doing 500mg ājust onceā
So what is the best maximum dose combination of both?
Since I have balls that can take heat, whatās the maximum time in cycle I should do before itās counterproductive? 10 weeks?
And again, 3 6 week cycles or 2 8-10 week cycles?
Bro,
Here is the game plan. Nice and simple.
1g tren - for 36 weeks.
1g Test E - for 36 weeks
Finished off with 200mg anadrol ED for 20 weeks
Making sure you take your fish oil and multivit to protect your health while you are on this cycle.
Can never be too careful
Brah, you are such a troll. You didnt mention taking 25mgs of AI ED or EOD. One question, that multivit, can that be a Flinstones?
I prefer chewable gummy bear multivits. Better oral availability and protection against tren
no one is putting on 30 lbs of meat off one cycle , a lot will be water ā¦.
since you have balls ā¦ā¦ you have zero brains . gtfo clown , you are clueless to this stuff
Actually you can most certainly accrue that much LBM in one cycle. Untrained men given 600mg test/wk for 20wks put on 8kg of LBM (17lbs), to think the untrained novice on a super heavy cycle wouldnāt gain a retarded amount of muscle mass leading to stretch marks everywhere (and presumably injury) simply isnāt true, 30lbs for someone who has never touched a weight nor exercises is possible.