Mini-Guest Forum with Shugs

[quote]If I were in movies I’d want to be the actor, the cameraman, the director and the key grip!

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it’s funny you say that Chris… i just finished making an independent full length film where i was the writer, director, producer, editor, fight choreographer, cinematographer, camera man (half the time), music composer/performer AND lead actor.

and now you know how i lost 38lbs this last year!!

Hey Chris,
i was just wondering what you thought would be the best program for a college football player to gain mass and explosion? my team has a good strenght coach but it always nice to hear an opinion from an expert such as yourself.
thanks chris
CS

Chris:
I’m an intermediate trainee who has just completed a second Mag-10 cycle in conjunction with the Mag-10 Plan for Success. In both on-cycles, by the second week I am experiencing serious pain in my wrist flexor muscles. The pain is enough to stop me from attempting to extend my current Mag-10 on-cycle from 2 to 4 weeks; the discomfort is so severe that I leave the gym whimpering in pain. This is really unfortunate since I have gained 20lbs lbm over the 2 cycles.

In your experience, have you met trainees who have had so much wrist flexor pain that they had to stop their current training regimen for extended periods? Do you think that my problem is a symptom of a deeper problem, or is it simply weak wrists being a limiting factor? Is there anything I could do in the short term that may limit the pain enough such that I can keep this current cycle going?

BTW: hands down this is the best site of its kind on the web.

Cheers!!

[quote]Dave2 wrote:
Who’s the most interesting person you’ve ever interviewed?[/quote]

That’s tough to say. Some of the people I’ve interviewed were interesting because they had a lot of info to offer. Others were interesting because they had a good story to tell or were just plain freaks. Greg Valentino comes to mind. (See the “Most Hated Man in Bodybuilding” interview.)

The interview I liked the most was with Shane Stratton. This was in Part III of the “Thailand Trilogy” series:

http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=459998

Shane was an interesting guy but mostly it was the setting. There I was backpacking around Thailand alone (my guide had flown to another part of the country while I had bussed to Pattaya.) I was running around catching motorcycle taxis, interviewing bar girls and expats, and riding in the back of trucks all over this crazy Wild West beach town.

It was just pure gonzo reporting and a real thrill.

[quote]teekz wrote:
Hey Chris I was wondering if you guys are gonna be at the october SWIS conference in Toronto?? If so how about having one of the T.O cell members do a write up on the conference as one of the articles. A draw for a member of the toronto cell to do a write up would be awesome.[/quote]

I’m not sure yet. I was thinking of going and writing up an article on it like I did for the last couple (Berardi and I co-wrote them as I recall.)
I’ll let the Toronto T-cell know something if I or someone else from the Nation goes. We can all get together for whores and hooch… er, I mean intellectually stimulating conversation and Diet Coke.

[quote]Atreides wrote:
Chris I read your interview about a bigger breakfast and about oatmeal.

I have read elsewhere about eating a basic cereal like Honey Nut Cheerios - on a bulk.

Is there any place for this in the food log for the guy who wants to get to 8 % bf? or do I simply need to stick with cleaner carbs and leave the cereal to the kiddies.[/quote]

For dieting I’d stick to cleaner carbs and avoid milk. Now, for mass phases, especially for hard training skinny guys, cold kiddie cereal can play a part.

Chad Waterbury has written about how he gets these skinny bastards to eat low fiber, low fat, high GI cereal with skim milk as their second post-workout meal (the first being a post-workout drink like Surge.) He really likes to cram the carbs down their throats during this time period.

I see that as an emergency weight gain method for true ectomorphs who are busting ass in the gym. But as Chad says, it’s not for everyone.

For dieters, I prefer they get about 100 grams of carbs per day, with about half of those coming after training in a drink like Surge. The rest should come at breakfast and spread throughout the day.

If you choose to use cold cereal when dieting for breakfast, I suggest Hood low carb milk and Fiber One cereal. You’ll need another protein source there as well, like a protein powder, eggs etc.

[quote]Ceaze wrote:
One study of dieting and exercising women found that eating more calories at night caused less muscle loss, but no difference in fat loss. Presumably more nutrients were available during the night to avoid muscle breakdown. The women who ate more in the morning did lose more total weight, but the entire difference was because they lost more muscle.

Comments?
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I can find you studies that say the exact opposite - as is the case with just about every body comp issue. Studies are annoying that way, huh?

I think most of us worry a little too much about nighttime muscle breakdown. I think it was John Berardi who dispelled a lot of these fears in a past article of his. (“Bedtime Story” I believe.)

Yes, I do think something like cottage cheese or even beef is good to eat before bed, but most people over-worry about losing muscle at night. It’s not quite minutia, but there are other things to worry about which have a much larger impact on body comp.

[quote]CS wrote:
Hey Chris,
i was just wondering what you thought would be the best program for a college football player to gain mass and explosion? my team has a good strenght coach but it always nice to hear an opinion from an expert such as yourself.
thanks chris
CS[/quote]

The core of any “mass program” is what you eat and how much you eat. I’ve always thought the idea of a “mass” training program is silly. A person can use the same training program to lose fat or build mass. The difference is diet, not the specifics (reps, sets, exercises) of what he does in the weightroom.

Of course, some training can lead to overall muscle gains better than other types of training, but shouldn’t you be using that type of training all the time anyway? A “mass” program full of big compound movements is also going to burn more calories and build more metabolism boosting muscle than, say, a very high rep program full of isolation movements.

All that said, there’s a time and a place for everything.

As for football training itself, the best advice is to read everything you can from Coach Davies and Joe DeFranco - both of whom have a lot of training articles in this site’s archives. I could offer some general advice in this area, but you’d be better off going right to the source: Davies and DeFranco.

[quote]mars_mapper wrote:
This is really unfortunate since I have gained 20lbs lbm over the 2 cycles.

In your experience, have you met trainees who have had so much wrist flexor pain that they had to stop their current training regimen for extended periods? Do you think that my problem is a symptom of a deeper problem, or is it simply weak wrists being a limiting factor? Is there anything I could do in the short term that may limit the pain enough such that I can keep this current cycle going?

Cheers!![/quote]

Better to find the source of the problem than to work around it or “Band-Aid” it. I can’t diagnose this type of thing on the net, but it could be something ART (Active Release) could fix. Do a search for an old article of mine called “The Real Miracle Worker.” It’s an interview with the guy who invented ART. That would be a place to start at least.

[quote]Chad Waterbury wrote:
Cowboy Shugs,
You da man! I just wanted to throw that out to ya brother.[/quote]

Thanks! Your $50 bill is in the mail!

Thibaudeau wanted $100, the bastard. I think he meant Canadian money though so that’s like 8 bucks and a beaver pelt or something like that.

Hey Chris, I read your blog on the peanut butter sandwich-read it cause the title was a bit misleading-but I was wondering, as a Texan, whatdya do when you just gotta have that T-bone, fully loaded baked potato, and a couple a Shiner’s?

[quote]slimjim wrote:
Hey Chris, I read your blog on the peanut butter sandwich-read it cause the title was a bit misleading-but I was wondering, as a Texan, whatdya do when you just gotta have that T-bone, fully loaded baked potato, and a couple a Shiner’s?[/quote]

I think, JUST DO IT!

Seriously, when dieting a steakhouse is a great place for a T-man or T-vixen to go. I get a sirloin, a “dry” sweet potato, and a salad. If I want a beer, I just get a light. Unsweetened tea is better if dieting of course.

Two things:

  1. When eating at a steak place, you gotta avoid the extras: rolls, beer bread, desserts, free peanuts (limit them at least), potato toppings, etc. The rest - steak, salad, sweet potato - eat them up! In fact, I have that at least once a week even when dieting.

  2. “But doesn’t this break the sacred C+F Berardi guidelines writ in stone?”

I get that question a lot. Yes, it does, but these are both good sources. When I think of evil C+F (carbs and fats in the same meal) I think of fried things, combining a bad carb with a bad fat. But lean steak and a sweet potato? Ain’t nothing wrong with that!