"Millennials and Zoomers Are Soft"

I read about that when it was announced. Im in a southern suburb of the City, but close enough.

Its infuriating. The PPS have already been pretty crappy for years, now their admin. are just diving for the crapper.

I was really hoping that silly bullshit would stay in the bigger cities.

How do you make math more “equitable”?

It’s a system to quantify measurable things and predict behaviors grounded in set rules. It’s already the the most equitable subject out there because there are no subjective ideas being taught.

At times, there is a right or wrong answer.

In math, there always is a right or wrong answer.

The only thing I agree with in the article is exposing students to folks in their field who may have the same cultural backgrounds they do. That kind of makes sense. But then again, “representation matters” seems antithetical to “race doesn’t matter” (it shouldn’t anyway).

You said you don’t think sex should come with responsibility on people yet others should be responsible for providing contraception and sex education. So either way there is responsibility on people who have sex or others who must make sure such people do not procreate unintentionally through education and technology. Sex also results in childbirth and can spread disease and has consequences on social life. So how does “no responsibility” square away?

All serious societies have regulated sex, for good reason, and of course that was woven into religion in some, but not all, cases. England, and if I recall correctly, pagan Germanic societies had legalized revenge killing for male home wreckers. I highly doubt that had anything to do with gods, but rather defending families and keeping social order.

And yes, the “double standard” was always pushed on women, for good reason.

In the bad old days, a man would approach one’s daughter or wife with serious risk. Now daughters “own their sexuality,” which really means they can screw whoever they want and introduce men into family bloodlines no matter how poor of a fit such men and their families might be for others.

Post-America is a goofball country and matriarchy by proxy. So I don’t expect people to take things seriously, including sex. It is now viewed as little more than a game of hide the weenie, with disastrous results over 60 years. So anyone who thinks, “Bro, it’s just fuggin’,” has not looked into the matter. (I remember I told this to someone and he said, “Maybe you’ve never done it for pleasure. Yeah, every time tight-ass Brickie went horizontal he did so with the intention of having a kid. JFL!)

Moving on.

Fellas, imagine we devolved from the aforesaid pro-social measures for dealing with interlopers and laying down the smack on anyone who screws with our families to the current day in which some of the most “alpha”, attractive, and wealthy men are publicly punked by their women and male interlopers: Johhny Depp, Ben Affleck, Will Smith, Brad Pitt, Tom Brady and others.

Tom Brady: Wife left because he didn’t want to quit work just yet. Literal lulz.

Johnny Depp: Wife defecated on his side of the bed.

Will Smith: Wife publicly said to him she got “entangled” with another man and shows no remorse. She “wanted to feel good” (her words) during a rough time between the two. Publicly herbed by Chris Rock about this blunder.

Brad Pitt: Wife said he was a “bad influence” on kids, if I recall correctly.

We seem to take this stuff like battered dogs. A huge chunk of the US male population is suffering from mommy syndrome, more or less. Couple that little male authority all over, Is there any wonder much of Gen Z is soft?

Below: Woman in “short” publicly ridiculing on the most popular podcast her ex bore friend who flailed to the floor after getting hit in the head in the ring. She would have preferred him to give the finger after getting the daylights knocked out of him. I’m sure she knows what it’s like.

Not funny.

@anna_5588 @jshaving thanks for the posts. I will likely respond later.

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…and so, we moved from “the greater good” to “no child left behind.”

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The easy way to leave no child behind isn’t by moving the kids forward but by moving the finish line back.

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You let minority kids, especially black kids, off the hook. Give them advanced credit for basic algebra and skin color guaranteed passes to college where they will again be coddled. Then you force employers to hire them over more qualified applicants and sort of manage the company around their underperformance while paying above the median rate for their roles as a woke initiative.

And this is equitable math in a nutshell. Actually has nothing to do with math itself.

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I understand at the higher levels of math giving some credit for getting the majority of the mathematical process right, but not all of it (we are talking advanced algebra/calculus that involves numerous steps - sometimes pages of work for one problem). But for most elementary and HS level math, it just doesn’t sit well.

The premise I agree with is that we need better/more qualified teachers of math and science. Most elementary and HS math/science teachers do not have backgrounds in those fields and some I knew growing up outright hated teaching math. Those folks are not the best to instill a love of mathematics and science in anyone interested. Problem is, anyone highly capable in math and science is not likely to settle for what teachers are currently being paid.

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AKA, eroding goals

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The teaching profession needs an overhaul for sure. You’re simply not going to attract top talent with shitty pay. Or even mediocre talent.

The problem is selling tax increases necessary to fund better hires within the public school systems as they are currently laid out.

I’m not sure how dumbing down curriculum is the alternative improvement but it’s where we are today. More questions than actual answers and everyone just plays along.

You won’t keep top talent if the conditions don’t change, regardless of pay. Who wants to be a teacher when children are your defacto bosses? Imagine being a grown man and having to endure insults from a child as well as the parent. It’s not about having a thick skin but having no sense of dignity. Imagine getting into teaching and being told you need to essentially be a therapist or psychologist. A social worker. Admin has transferred the burden of discipline to teachers rather than with principals and deans.

Ehh, I never said without responsibility, I was saying that we don’t have to have consequences baked in our understanding around it, because we don’t have to.

I’m assuming that you say “other people,” you’re referring to taxes? Correct me if I’m wrong. I’d rather my money go to those things that give people happier lives and lead to a better generation than bailouts, police lawsuits, corporate tax breaks. I know thats a topic for another day. Just explaining my thinking as a millennial.

I disagree with this and everything that came after.

So some relationships of public figures dont work out? That’s their problem, not systemic. Its just more visible.

Honor killings are bad, m’kay.

Also that meme at the end is stupid. And we can thank the English. Quite a number of societies were matriarchal, but then then they only negotiated with men, so that fucked it up. Also since it shows evolution, you can’t use it to claim men are being oppressed but our previous bear overlords deserved it.

Do you have an example of this as a widespread phenomenon?

Teachers in my area are expected to provide front line discipline and to keep control of their classrooms, but escalation paths are still intact.

The current school situation sure makes me happy that I went to school the era I did. Discipline was fairly rare, as I experienced few disruptive classroom events, with the exception of substitute teachers, who were closer to baby sitters than teachers. Spit balls might become the entertainment of the hour.

In my era there was “us” and “them.” The “us” was the students. The “them” was our parents and the school (teachers, deans, and principal.) If we stayed “in line” we didn’t have to deal with “them.” If any one of “them” thought any one of “us” was in the wrong, the burden of proof was on the one of “us” that got caught up.

The result was a classroom conducive to learning.

Coincidentally this popped up on my feed today.

Just brutal.

I don’t know that these are the examples we should be using…

Was Brady a good father and partner? No one really knows but his family. Perhaps he did value his career (one that posed a pretty great risk to his physical and mental health) over his family, and did so for 15 years or however long he played? Is it not okay that a wife eventually get fed up with that? Especially if she’s capable of providing for herself and their children like his ex-wife is?

Amber Heard was nuts but didn’t the two of them lay hands on each other? I didn’t follow the case but was he entirely blameless?

Jada Smith is also nuts (like, really nuts), but Will’s been open that he’s had some issues from his past that have stopped him from always being an emotionally-healthy partner.

I don’t know anything about Brad Pitt but what if he was a bad influence? What if he was frequently intoxicated around his kids or whatever it was that he was accused of? (I didn’t follow their breakup at all.)

It seems like you’re getting upset that these men are taking these hits laying down and not including that possibly, these guys just aren’t great husbands?

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Kind of like how Google dropped, “Don’t be evil.”

When i went to school in the early 70s, my parents gave the principal permission to use the paddle

then i got it again when i got home

it worked, i turned out pretty well

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And I would bet that everyone else did too.

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Let’s not glorify physical battery of children as an okay method of discipline.
It teaches nothing except fear. No recognition of why infringing action is unacceptable, nothing done to help an underdeveloped brain think through a problem. It’s only an installation of fear. It’s resorted to by parents who are ignorant (either willfully or due to sheer stupidity) of better methods.

Physical punishment has been roundly condemned by psychologists for years.
Corporal punishment and child adjustment - ScienceDirect
Corporal punishment by parents and associated child behaviors and experiences: A meta-analytic and theoretical review. (apa.org)
effect of corporal punishment on antisocial behavior in children | Social Work Research | Oxford Academic (oup.com)

Corporal Punishment Is Uniquely Associated With a Greater Neural Response to Errors and Blunted Neural Response to Rewards in Adolescence - ScienceDirect

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Anyone who says this didn’t.