"Millennials and Zoomers Are Soft"

Got the career step I needed, took two weeks, quit, and didn’t look back.

Actually he wasnt speaking to me at that point. It was an open kitchen restaurant and he thought being a hardass involved insulting staff. So I come up to the pass with a plate about 15 seconds late because it was dinner rush. He flipped me off in front of the entire restaurant and I reached out, folded his finger down and said something like “That’s cute, but I have to get back to work.” Remember, open kitchen - staff saw it, customers saw it. He literally never spoke to me again, even if I was right there he would tell someone else “Tell Brant xyz.”

I feel differently. You can lose respect for someone through their actions, but it should be a baseline to start from.

Same thing with trust. Ever dated someone who wants you to “earn their trust?” We’re together, and trust can be broken, but start with it.

Good point. Can’t believe I left that one out.

Reminds me I need to have my afternoon tide pod.

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It’s rooted in the narcissism which their parents fostered in them.

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I don’t see that at all. In my experience they wanted to teach and help. Dumb employees are a reflection upon who hired them.

I get what you’re saying but I believe everyone gets respect until they lose it. I’ll give a pan handler the same respect as a doctor until they give me a reason not to.

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This was an old tangent, but I just caught up.

How many generations of teachers are we at now since education started declining? We technically get a new generation of teachers every 5 years or so, right?

Even ignoring that, it seems like it’s been bad for awhile.

After rising every year for fifty years, student scores on a variety of achievement tests dropped sharply in 1967. They continued to decline through 1980. The decline was so severe, John Bishop calculates, that students graduating in 1980 had learned “about 1.25 grade-level equivalents less than those who graduated in 1967.”1 Although achievement levels began to recover in 1980, the recovery has been weak and student achievement has yet to regain 1967 levels. By the turn of the century, conservative estimates of the economic growth lost due to the academic achievement decline were on the order of 3.6 percent of the 2000 gross national product.

From: Education - Econlib (just a google find)

I don’t even know what “education reform” would look like these days. What would we even model it off of? Probably every teacher who had a “good education” is retired at this point.

Does the higher suicide rate rote east asian education system have any merit? Selecting for the best works at least for those at the top. Not sure about anyone else. (Historically that led to a few rebellions…)

Does the classical and liberal education of the european aristocratic elite still have any merit? Individualized tutoring/governesses followed by boarding schools with their self-regulating (student-regulating) violent compliance.

Innovation is a thing we seem to still do well, although I’m not sure how it’s taught.

There is some merit in your take on respect, but I still would be trying to earn the respect of others. I would never expect it.

Now trust is completely different. You must show, and better yet prove, yourself trustworthy in order to be awarded trust. Your relationship example is not the best concerning trust, since those persons are involved in a two sided trust, and maybe neither knows much about the other. But if you had some second hand information regarding the character of the person you are starting the relationship, would you fully trust them? (You can say that you wouldn’t get into a relationship with someone that “might” have trust issues.)

How much money will you loan me? Don’t you trust me to pay you back?
Simply seeing how credit works demonstrates how trust and trustworthy are tied. I hope I don’t need to explain that to you. BTW, the reason you don’t have a million dollar limit on your credit card, is because the credit company doesn’t trust you to pay that much back.

If you are an employer, do you trust every employee you hire from day one?

I stand firm in my belief that trust must be earned.

Agreed. It needs to be continuously worked on.

I’m speaking towards an initial approach. Information makes a difference. For instance, I have never met my sister-in-laws partner, but based on what she’s shared, I neither respect or trust him.

I always assume a loan to friends or famiily is just a gift. For the credit card example, that feels different since trust is kind of irrelevant when you have an enforcable contract. They dont trust me, and I sure as shit dont trust them, but corporations aren’t people.

Why would I hire someone I didn’t think I could trust?

Fair enough.

Let me give you a real life work example. The company I worked for had spent much time developing a mission, vision, and values document. One of the values was “trust.”

A couple years later the company got a chance to drug test all employees (3,000+). At the time I was on the Corporate Strategy Team (but worked at a power generation station and conversed with the employees) and pointed out that if the company trusted their employees, they would ask if the employee was on drugs and be satisfied with answer. The only reason to drug test the employee is because they did not trust them. The end result, the company had the integrity to drop “trust” from its list of core values.

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That’s an interesting take, to realize and acknowledge that “trust” is no longer a core value.

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200w (2)

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I never let it rest. And brought it up at every opportunity. Another one of their core values was “integrity,” which I emphasized often.

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The operative word is “think.” No one would intentionally hire someone that they didn’t “think” they could trust. But in reality, as a stranger, you do not know for sure.

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What it looks like is education is replaced by activism. Schools are not trying to create educated people but future activists. Teaching programs are emphasizing social justice, equity and inclusion over academics. So you will see more and more teachers bringing politics and social issues into the classroom. And it’s because it’s what expected of them. If you were to see how lessons are to be planned, they are supposed to include things like cultural responsiveness and diversity. This includes subjects like math and the sciences. Teachers, and I’m not joking as I have first hand experience with this, are supposed to make students aware of their privileges. It’s teaching that is influenced by CRT and intersectionality. They want teachers to take a narrative approach which means you need a good guy and a bad guy. I saw a lesson from a social studies teacher about the Aztecs and Spanish. The Spanish were greedy, in search of gold. The Aztecs were farmers who worshipped the sun. I find it disgusting because it truly is indoctrination that creates closed minds.

Now you have mastery grading entering the picture. What this does is make homework optional for students as it won’t have any effect on their grade. Which means homework won’t be assigned since no one is going to do it. The same goes for class participation and even attendance. The only things that count are assessments which are not necessarily the typical quizzes and tests but are tailored to an individual student’s supposed best way of demonstrating “mastery” of the material. And, students get to take these assessments repeatedly if they fail until they get the grade that they deserve. And you better believe all of those terrible students who skip class regularly and who do nothing when they do show up, unless you count being disruptive, will suddenly get decent grades. It’s all a scam. I worked in a school where the lowest possible grade a student could get was a 50. Many schools have similar policies. The things is, that didn’t work to get grades up which is why mastery grading is being implemented. It has become bizzaro world.

I would hope you are wrong in your entire post, but I fear it is accurate.

In the teaching program some of the books we had to read were written by authors who were also proponents of CRT. When you hear some college elite say that CRT isn’t being taught in schools, they are telling a half truth. Yes, CRT is not being taught but CRT is influencing how and what teachers teach. The 1619 Project, which is antihistory, founded on a lie, is a product of CRT thinking. And it is being pushed to be part of public school curriculum in spite of being poor scholarship based on nonsense. And it is an objective truth to say it is based on a lie as the one defense to a lie is evidence to the contrary which the creator has failed to produce to defend her thesis. But “my truth” is becoming the new standard in academia.

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Trust, but Verify!

As you know “Trust But Verify” is an oxymoron, but that is partly why the statement is so powerful.

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Cool.

Is one of those privileges “having a good education”? Because this isn’t how you do that.

This is at least partially true, is it not? That is one of the problems though, I suppose.

Just because some people were like X, doesn’t mean all of them were. The ability to understand nuance is an important thing to be taught.

Until I read more, this actually sounded like a good thing. Get rid of the participation BS and only focus on actual assessments like quizzes, tests, and where it makes sense to test that you can apply ideas, projects. I’m even ok with redos, assuming you spend time learning the material between them.

There’s a good bit of memory research showing how memories are formed and retained longer when focusing more on recall…

But then I read more about it, and it’s not that at all. This is awful.

Students are allowed to work at their own pace to learn the material and are less anxious about assessments because they know they can retake exams or other assessments if they do not understand a concept (Towsley and Schmid 2020). Students also show shift from focusing solely on grades to being more involved with learning and over time develop a growth mindset (Cilli-Turner et al. 2020, Towsley and Schmid 2020). Instructors find that mastery grading reduces instructor-student conflicts over grades and some instructors report a reduction in time required for grading (Towsley and Schmid 2020).

I accept that people learn at different rates… which is why you have well defined boundaries, like exam schedules, and let people figure out how they can rise to those expectations. Class time is not for “studying”.

That’s the problem. You take only the truths that fit your narrative. The Aztecs were also conquerers and colonizers. They built an empire. They had slavery and they sacrificed prisoners, including children, after torturing them for days. Why leave that out?

And people don’t all have equal intelligence levels or talents. And in that piece you quoted they mention the effects on students yet, they really have no proof of this. It’s all either made up or anecdotal.

Right now it may look like this is only an issue in inner cities that will affect black students but this dumbing down of academics is also going to become the norm for everyone.