Milk Products and Bodybuilding

[quote]ProjectX wrote:
Professor X wrote:

I don’t drink as much milk now, but I am positive that doing so in the beginning helped me gain most of my size initially. It was affordable and it provided the extra calories and protein I needed.

if i recall correctly, you mentioned in another thread that you’ve become lactose intolerant…

so it would be safe to assume that this was before your lactose intolerance, but anyways i’m lactose intolerant (can only drink about a half a cup before getting “distress”) so my question is…

do you think that milk was important enough to the process to warrant drinking it even if you are lactose intolerant by either taking lactase pills or drinking lactose free milk?

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I have never written that I “became” lactose intolerant. I have always been lactose intolerant. Obviously, if someone who is lactose intolerant continues to find a way to drink milk in large amounts, they must think the benefit warrants the effort.

There are lactose free milk products along with Lactaid supplements. I can drink small amounts of regular milk with no problem. More than that and I drank lactose free milk or used the lactase enzyme supplements with regular milk.

[quote]skor wrote:
It seems like there is no consensus on milk products for bodybuilding - some say it’s great (“squats and milk!”), many suggest to stay away and not overindulge.

I, personally, love milk products and think that they are great for those who are not lactose intolerant.

However, are there any recommendations out there as to upper limit intake of mil products for healthy adults?

I recently discovered Trader Joe’s cottage cheese, yogurt, kefir (all 1-2% fat) and I like their taste so much that I can easily consume 800-900 calories a day from these sources (including milk and cheese). This is a significant increase in dairy consumption as compared to before; it’s like my body craves yogurt/cottage cheese now.

Given that I’m 165lb and my daily intake is probably 2500 (I’ve never really calculated, but I eat clean pretty much non-stop), is it OK to get 1/3 of calories from milk products? Any possible downsides?[/quote]

How much milk you can drink depends on your goals. If you 20% bf, the carbs in milk will not aid in fat loss. Two cups of milk contain 24 grams of carbs, and only 16 grams of protein. If you trying to lose weight on the AD or CT’s program, you are going to run into problems.

Calorie Countdown only has 3 grams of carbs per cup. I live on that stuff. Cream works well too, but is 100 calories per tablespoon so watch out.

[quote]coloradosteve wrote:
skor wrote:
It seems like there is no consensus on milk products for bodybuilding - some say it’s great (“squats and milk!”), many suggest to stay away and not overindulge.

I, personally, love milk products and think that they are great for those who are not lactose intolerant.

However, are there any recommendations out there as to upper limit intake of mil products for healthy adults?

I recently discovered Trader Joe’s cottage cheese, yogurt, kefir (all 1-2% fat) and I like their taste so much that I can easily consume 800-900 calories a day from these sources (including milk and cheese). This is a significant increase in dairy consumption as compared to before; it’s like my body craves yogurt/cottage cheese now.

Given that I’m 165lb and my daily intake is probably 2500 (I’ve never really calculated, but I eat clean pretty much non-stop), is it OK to get 1/3 of calories from milk products? Any possible downsides?

How much milk you can drink depends on your goals. If you 20% bf, the carbs in milk will not aid in fat loss. Two cups of milk contain 24 grams of carbs, and only 16 grams of protein. If you trying to lose weight on the AD or CT’s program, you are going to run into problems.

Calorie Countdown only has 3 grams of carbs per cup. I live on that stuff. Cream works well too, but is 100 calories per tablespoon so watch out.
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Have you had any problems with insulin response to the low carb stuff? I love it, but I am afraid to use it since milk stuff supposedly spikes insulin…

[quote]sarah1 wrote:

Calorie Countdown only has 3 grams of carbs per cup. I live on that stuff. Cream works well too, but is 100 calories per tablespoon so watch out.

Have you had any problems with insulin response to the low carb stuff? I love it, but I am afraid to use it since milk stuff supposedly spikes insulin…[/quote]

No, just as long as I stay under 50g of carbs a day. Matter of fact, I think I’m going to up the carbs to 80g per day per CT’s body transformation article as I am in the 9-12% body fat range. That and I am losing too much weight too fast.

I’m eating about 4000-5000 cals a day, and I keep losing weight. The plan is if I up the carbs I can save some cash as the food bill is getting expensive. But calorie countdown rocks.