Some folks that get Art History degrees end up in other functions. Even in business. Obviously not everyone who is getting an Art History degree is an unemployed bum. If that happens guess what, people won’t major in it. Like right now we have a very low amount of people majoring in it. We don’t need a big amount majoring in it and we don’t have one.
Of COURSE we need it. We have occupations where people are looking for an Art History major. We might not have a lot, but how could you say we don’t need it?
We don’t NEED plumbers we could dig a hole in the ground and take a dump right there…but the economy has demand for plumbers just like for art history majors. The demand for the latter is lower, but it still exists.
What’s practical today may not even exist tomorrow. If we had 0 demand in the American economy for Art History we wouldn’t have Art History degrees.
All you did was show data that says accounting is better to go into than Art history. This is true. But using that same logic why would anyone go into accounting? Because we have data that shows better industries for income and employment.
Your GED example doesn’t fit with that discussion.
As for the youtube video it made my point for me quite nicely. You were talking about Occupy and I was showing you a person there in a major with somewhat high demand who was unemployed. He was an engineer…not an History guy.
Damn unemployed engineers protesting at occupy makes me mad. Get a job engineers!
Some folks that get Art History degrees end up in other functions. Even in business. Obviously not everyone who is getting an Art History degree is an unemployed bum. If that happens guess what, people won’t major in it. Like right now we have a very low amount of people majoring in it. We don’t need a big amount majoring in it and we don’t have one.
Of COURSE we need it. We have occupations where people are looking for an Art History major. We might not have a lot, but how could you say we don’t need it?
We don’t NEED plumbers we could dig a hole in the ground and take a dump right there…but the economy has demand for plumbers just like for art history majors. The demand for the latter is lower, but it still exists.
What’s practical today may not even exist tomorrow. If we had 0 demand in the American economy for Art History we wouldn’t have Art History degrees.
All you did was show data that says accounting is better to go into than Art history. This is true. But using that same logic why would anyone go into accounting? Because we have data that shows better industries for income and employment.
Your GED example doesn’t fit with that discussion.
As for the youtube video it made my point for me quite nicely. You were talking about Occupy and I was showing you a person there in a major with somewhat high demand who was unemployed. He was an engineer…not an History guy.
Damn unemployed engineers protesting at occupy makes me mad. Get a job engineers! [/quote]
Career/enrollment counselors at virtually all universities and colleges are complete whores.
They are going to say what ever major you choose is Great! and they have a wonderful world renowned program in “insert useless degree here”. And given that the majority of their clientele are dreamy eyed 18 year olds with not a fucking clue about what drives the economy or what the demand will be for their dream job when they graduate it is a very easy sale.
I like Rowe’s premise. In my area it is not uncommon for someone to completely abandon their field that they have a degree for (accounting, finance, whatever) and go offshore where they could have went right out of high school because the money is better and people like that time off. When we look at our dads with only diplomas making 250,000-400,000 a year by the time they are 45 is a definite hard draw. Makes ya think college aint all its cracked up to be.
[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
I like Rowe’s premise. In my area it is not uncommon for someone to completely abandon their field that they have a degree for (accounting, finance, whatever) and go offshore where they could have went right out of high school because the money is better and people like that time off. When we look at our dads with only diplomas making 250,000-400,000 a year by the time they are 45 is a definite hard draw. Makes ya think college aint all its cracked up to be.[/quote]
What is the divorce rate look like for your off shore buddies? Here it is really high. That two weeks off shore and two weeks back is hard for a woman with kids. The money is great, but I personally want to be with my kids.
Depends on the guy. For the guys that try to live the off-shore lifestyle, hitting land and instantly hitting the bars spend big and live it up, it is really high. But no higher than the non-offshore guys that live that same way. For the guys that just go to work then come home to their families like they should, this is typically the guys who worked a more traditional job before switching, it isn’t that high.
I have often said that during the summer when I was a kid, I probably got way more time to spend with my dad than most of my friends because when he was in we could do whatever for the 14 or 28 days he was home. There are pro’s and con’s to it. Takes a strong woman that you trust completely to make it work as well. Because if you are worried about what she is up to the entire time you are gone I don’t see how you would stand it or how you marriage would last.
[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
I like Rowe’s premise. In my area it is not uncommon for someone to completely abandon their field that they have a degree for (accounting, finance, whatever) and go offshore where they could have went right out of high school because the money is better and people like that time off. When we look at our dads with only diplomas making 250,000-400,000 a year by the time they are 45 is a definite hard draw. Makes ya think college aint all its cracked up to be.[/quote]
Dr. Matt had an excellent post regarding the purpose of higher education in another thread. Its title escapes me.
[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
I like Rowe’s premise. In my area it is not uncommon for someone to completely abandon their field that they have a degree for (accounting, finance, whatever) and go offshore where they could have went right out of high school because the money is better and people like that time off. When we look at our dads with only diplomas making 250,000-400,000 a year by the time they are 45 is a definite hard draw. Makes ya think college aint all its cracked up to be.[/quote]
Dr. Matt had an excellent post regarding the purpose of higher education in another thread. Its title escapes me. [/quote]
I really should have proof-read that. That is horribly written ha.
I am obviously late to this thread and haven’t read through it but will respond to the OP.
"The goal is to get high school seniors ready to enter the workforce with the skills they need to land the jobs that are available in the U.S. â?? the key word being available. "
I think this is awesome. We have so many white-collar and blue-collar jobs available to people right now but not enough people with the skills to fill them. The same thing is going on in Australia so they import foreign workers and overpay them because they need the people. There are tons of jobs out there but we’ve done a terrible job communicating that to the public. It would be nice if everyone took personal responsibility to figure it out for themselves, but it’s a good thing to be proactive about it because the entire nation benefits.
You can make upwards of a 100k a year or more as a skilled welder. We have a lot going on in America and if we’re intelligent about it we can find good paying jobs for lots of people.