Michele Bachmann; Thoughts?

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[quote]garcia1970 wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
Garcia,

The Health Care Bill Obama whored himself out to pass is so awesome, you have Unions asking to be exempt from certain mandated conditions.

Yes the organizer in chief is so awesome, he promised that if you like your current plan, you can keep it without your rates going up a single dime. Well guess what amigo, not long ago I posted here in PWI a copy of the letter notifying me that my rate was indeed going up. I did not change my policy in any way, nor did I have anything significant happen. Just another middle class taxpayer getting ass fucked without lube to pay for the Almighty’s Lie, oops I mean law.

Televised on CSPAN like the chosen one promised?..NOT!

Just another typical politician, if he is breathing he is lying. [/quote]

Hey, dumb dumb–take it up w?ur PRIVATE insurance company!! If we had a single-payer syatem, you wouldn’t have that abuse. Sorry, fuck you! Free market at work!!![/quote]

Someone with a PhD would not use “ur” instead of “your”

See, little things like that continue to give you away. You just can’t help being who you are can you?

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[quote]garcia1970 wrote:

[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]garcia1970 wrote:
ZEb, come on, tell us how rich you are. Tell us what you do for a living. Tell us about YOUR education at Hamburger University.

[/quote]

Zeb is certainly capable of defending himself here on PWI but I have to confess that your “I’ve got a such a rectspacular ejicashun, whadda bout you” shtick exhibits syphilitic cuntism like I haven’t seen before. Congratulations.
[/quote]

Yes! Very creative. Zeb does a great job of personal attacks, like you. Typical.[/quote]

But exactly 5:00 before you said this to Push

Tell me “professor” don’t you think that this is a personal attack because YOU said it? And what caused such a personal attack by you? Push questioned your hero’s health care plan using facts. Esteemed professor’s like you are supposed to deal in facts, yet you resort to ad hominem attacks.

One more tell tale sign you’re not who or what you claim to be. That makes you a fraud.

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[quote]MaximusB wrote:
Garcia,

The Health Care Bill Obama whored himself out to pass is so awesome, you have Unions asking to be exempt from certain mandated conditions.

Yes the organizer in chief is so awesome, he promised that if you like your current plan, you can keep it without your rates going up a single dime. Well guess what amigo, not long ago I posted here in PWI a copy of the letter notifying me that my rate was indeed going up. I did not change my policy in any way, nor did I have anything significant happen. Just another middle class taxpayer getting ass fucked without lube to pay for the Almighty’s Lie, oops I mean law.

Televised on CSPAN like the chosen one promised?..NOT!

Just another typical politician, if he is breathing he is lying. [/quote]

I agree with alot you say here.

Blame your insurance company for the premium increase.

Highmark DOUBLED my premium from $300 to $620 6 months BEFORE the bill was even signed.

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[quote]garcia1970 wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
Garcia,

The Health Care Bill Obama whored himself out to pass is so awesome, you have Unions asking to be exempt from certain mandated conditions.

Yes the organizer in chief is so awesome, he promised that if you like your current plan, you can keep it without your rates going up a single dime. Well guess what amigo, not long ago I posted here in PWI a copy of the letter notifying me that my rate was indeed going up. I did not change my policy in any way, nor did I have anything significant happen. Just another middle class taxpayer getting ass fucked without lube to pay for the Almighty’s Lie, oops I mean law.

Televised on CSPAN like the chosen one promised?..NOT!

Just another typical politician, if he is breathing he is lying. [/quote]

I agree with alot you say here.

Blame your insurance company for the premium increase.

Highmark DOUBLED my premium from $300 to $620 6 months BEFORE the bill was even signed.[/quote]

Ohh so no more FUCK YOU eh?

No amigo, he fucked us all.

Where is all your woof-woof now about health care for all being a “right?” Our rates going up will pay for all the new people accessing Obamacare, so answer me this, is it within my right as a taxpayer to not be abused for people who cannot pay for their own shit?

Why should I be mandated to pay for something someone else won’t? Is that not cruel and unusual punishment? Isn’t that the whole Democratic mantra? Don’t punish the poor for being poor? How about don’t punish the middle class for being middle class? Remember amigo, I do not qualify as being “rich” within the Federal definition of making $250k/yr or more, yet I got ass-raped financially.

The sad thing is, anyone with a working brain knew this before the law was passed, (which is very much the reason why your rate went up before the law passed.)

Just as a side comment, I would like to point out that all the Republicans showed up to vote for the Health Care Law, even though everyone knew they didn’t have the numbers to stop it. Something I cannot say for Wisconsin Dems, like a bunch of coward pussies, they fled the state. I wonder what would be said for Republicans had they fled and hid to not even vote.

If you are a Phd, then I am Obama’s twin brother.

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[quote]MaximusB wrote:

[quote]garcia1970 wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
Garcia,

The Health Care Bill Obama whored himself out to pass is so awesome, you have Unions asking to be exempt from certain mandated conditions.

Yes the organizer in chief is so awesome, he promised that if you like your current plan, you can keep it without your rates going up a single dime. Well guess what amigo, not long ago I posted here in PWI a copy of the letter notifying me that my rate was indeed going up. I did not change my policy in any way, nor did I have anything significant happen. Just another middle class taxpayer getting ass fucked without lube to pay for the Almighty’s Lie, oops I mean law.

Televised on CSPAN like the chosen one promised?..NOT!

Just another typical politician, if he is breathing he is lying. [/quote]

I agree with alot you say here.

Blame your insurance company for the premium increase.

Highmark DOUBLED my premium from $300 to $620 6 months BEFORE the bill was even signed.[/quote]

Ohh so no more FUCK YOU eh?

No amigo, he fucked us all.

Where is all your woof-woof now about health care for all being a “right?” Our rates going up will pay for all the new people accessing Obamacare, so answer me this, is it within my right as a taxpayer to not be abused for people who cannot pay for their own shit?

Why should I be mandated to pay for something someone else won’t? Is that not cruel and unusual punishment? Isn’t that the whole Democratic mantra? Don’t punish the poor for being poor? How about don’t punish the middle class for being middle class? Remember amigo, I do not qualify as being “rich” within the Federal definition of making $250k/yr or more, yet I got ass-raped financially.

The sad thing is, anyone with a working brain knew this before the law was passed, (which is very much the reason why your rate went up before the law passed.)

Just as a side comment, I would like to point out that all the Republicans showed up to vote for the Health Care Law, even though everyone knew they didn’t have the numbers to stop it. Something I cannot say for Wisconsin Dems, like a bunch of coward pussies, they fled the state. I wonder what would be said for Republicans had they fled and hid to not even vote.

If you are a Phd, then I am Obama’s twin brother. [/quote]

Uh, mi amigo, I did not mean fuck you, personally. I meant it to say thst this is what the insurance companies say to us!

Oh, if you were insinuating that I backed down because you threatened me, think again. As I explained, you misunderstood me in the first place.

Well, gotta go. But before I do, I think I will:

  1. Burn an American flag
  2. Piss on a bible
  3. Tomorrow I can go back brainwashing all of my students that all conservatives are all home-schooled, extremist, hateful, racist, evangelical assholes that want to destroy the middle class by abolishing SS, Medicare, unemployment, education, food safety, the FAA, the IRS, Dept of Energy and the EPA.

There is nothing you can do about it!!!

HAAAAA!

Go Bachmann, Palin (who hates govt, but has spent 35 yrs in congress), Paul and all the other nutjobs.

Go ahead and post how I’m a fraud and whatever. You wish.
I won’t be listening anymore.

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Whoever is most willing to completely cut off all ties with China has my vote. China’s government re-defines evil.

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[quote]garcia1970 wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:

[quote]garcia1970 wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
Garcia,

The Health Care Bill Obama whored himself out to pass is so awesome, you have Unions asking to be exempt from certain mandated conditions.

Yes the organizer in chief is so awesome, he promised that if you like your current plan, you can keep it without your rates going up a single dime. Well guess what amigo, not long ago I posted here in PWI a copy of the letter notifying me that my rate was indeed going up. I did not change my policy in any way, nor did I have anything significant happen. Just another middle class taxpayer getting ass fucked without lube to pay for the Almighty’s Lie, oops I mean law.

Televised on CSPAN like the chosen one promised?..NOT!

Just another typical politician, if he is breathing he is lying. [/quote]

I agree with alot you say here.

Blame your insurance company for the premium increase.

Highmark DOUBLED my premium from $300 to $620 6 months BEFORE the bill was even signed.[/quote]

Ohh so no more FUCK YOU eh?

No amigo, he fucked us all.

Where is all your woof-woof now about health care for all being a “right?” Our rates going up will pay for all the new people accessing Obamacare, so answer me this, is it within my right as a taxpayer to not be abused for people who cannot pay for their own shit?

Why should I be mandated to pay for something someone else won’t? Is that not cruel and unusual punishment? Isn’t that the whole Democratic mantra? Don’t punish the poor for being poor? How about don’t punish the middle class for being middle class? Remember amigo, I do not qualify as being “rich” within the Federal definition of making $250k/yr or more, yet I got ass-raped financially.

The sad thing is, anyone with a working brain knew this before the law was passed, (which is very much the reason why your rate went up before the law passed.)

Just as a side comment, I would like to point out that all the Republicans showed up to vote for the Health Care Law, even though everyone knew they didn’t have the numbers to stop it. Something I cannot say for Wisconsin Dems, like a bunch of coward pussies, they fled the state. I wonder what would be said for Republicans had they fled and hid to not even vote.

If you are a Phd, then I am Obama’s twin brother. [/quote]

Uh, mi amigo, I did not mean fuck you, personally. I meant it to say thst this is what the insurance companies say to us!

Oh, if you were insinuating that I backed down because you threatened me, think again. As I explained, you misunderstood me in the first place.

Well, gotta go. But before I do, I think I will:

  1. Burn an American flag
  2. Piss on a bible
  3. Tomorrow I can go back brainwashing all of my students that all conservatives are all home-schooled, extremist, hateful, racist, evangelical assholes that want to destroy the middle class by abolishing SS, Medicare, unemployment, education, food safety, the FAA, the IRS, Dept of Energy and the EPA.

There is nothing you can do about it!!!

HAAAAA!

Go Bachmann, Palin (who hates govt, but has spent 35 yrs in congress), Paul and all the other nutjobs.

Go ahead and post how I’m a fraud and whatever. You wish.
I won’t be listening anymore.
[/quote]

Don’t forget to beat a poor person, I don’t want you breaking any promises…like Obama.

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[quote]ZEB wrote:
. . . But he used to be a Minister and the mainstream liberal media would probably have everyone thinking that he’d force people into Christianity if elected. There are other problems with Huckabee as well once a campaign heats up.
[/quote]

i really agree with this. he has something like 10 plus years of recorded baptist sermons that will pop the head off of liberals and atheist libertarian and republicans. Obama will be able to release them at a steady rate and the press will eat it up.

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[quote]koffea wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:
. . . But he used to be a Minister and the mainstream liberal media would probably have everyone thinking that he’d force people into Christianity if elected. There are other problems with Huckabee as well once a campaign heats up.
[/quote]

i really agree with this. he has something like 10 plus years of recorded baptist sermons that will pop the head off of liberals and atheist libertarian and republicans. Obama will be able to release them at a steady rate and the press will eat it up. [/quote]

Fortunately he’s not running.

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It looks like Bachmann is ready to officially declare within the week.

Being a favorite of the Tea Party wing of the GOP; how will this affect Romney (whom, by the way, is getting lukewarm backing from potential Republican voters).

Mufasa

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[quote]Mufasa wrote:
It looks like Bachmann is ready to officially declare within the week.

Being a favorite of the Tea Party wing of the GOP; how will this affect Romney (whom, by the way, is getting lukewarm backing from potential Republican voters).

Mufasa[/quote]

Bachmann as VP maybe, with a more middle of the road candidate at the top. She has no chance of beating Obama at the top of the ticket.

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Saw this article today about Michelle Backmann by Jonathan Tobin.

"America was formally introduced to Michele Bachmann last night. The poised and articulate woman on the stage in New Hampshire was nothing like the caricature of a Tea Party bomb thrower the mainstream media led the country to expect. Critics will attempt to downplay Bachmann?s strong showing as nothing more than a case of exceeding low expectations. But if that is what her rivals for the nomination are thinking today, they are making a mistake. In a field of largely bland candidates, she stands out as a person with energy and strong principles.

Heretofore, Bachmann has been viewed as a Sarah Palin clone or, at best, a rerun of Mike Huckabee and his surprisingly strong primary run in 2008. Either way, she was seen as a candidate with no real path to the nomination, let alone a chance of victory in November 2012. But the idea she is only competing for the title of best second -tier candidate underestimates both the candidate and the impact of the populist Tea Party movement that adores her.

After two straight poor debate performances by Tim Pawlenty, the image of him ducking a chance to take on Mitt Romney to his face on ?Obamneycare? will linger. Though Pawlenty has many virtues, gutlessness is not a character trait Americans want in their president. Which means the idea Bachmann was a possible spoiler for Pawlenty in Iowa may have it backwards. Going forward, perhaps we ought to think of her, not Pawlenty, as the standard bearer for the social conservative wing of the party.

Today, many are envisioning the two winners of the debate ? Romney and Bachmann ? as the most likely to emerge from the early primaries as the main GOP contenders. That may be subject to revision in the unlikely event of another major candidate such as Paul Ryan jumping in, but it is a reasonable scenario. But if it does come down to just the two of them, the assumption that Romney is the certain nominee may be a misperception of the political realities of 2012."

The rest can be read at:

http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2011/06/14/dont-underestimate-michelle-bachmann/

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In many ways, I think that the candidates were “playing nice” with each other as they attacked the President (which they should do, no question).

Don’t you think debating each other was much different than what debating the President will be?

Say what you may about Obama a) he now better understands the world, the Presidency and the workings of Washington and 2) he is a heck of a debater.

Discuss.

Mufasa

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[quote]Mufasa wrote:
In many ways, I think that the candidates were “playing nice” with each other as they attacked the President (which they should do, no question).

Don’t you think debating each other was much different than what debating the President will be?

Say what you may about Obama a) he now better understands the world, the Presidency and the workings of Washington and 2) he is a heck of a debater.

Discuss.

Mufasa[/quote]

A heck of a debater? Really? Are you talking about Obama or his teleprompter?

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  1. Debate is part of our election process.

  2. Debate has ALWAYS been an integral part of the Democratic process.

  3. Debate was essential during the formulation of our beloved Constitution.

Also, the “Big Deal”, push, is that the GOP nominee will be going into these most Democratic of processes of debate and election against a seasoned President. I doubt that ANY of the GOP candidates are overlooking that fact.

The Teleprompter “issue” is getting older and more worn out than the Birth Certificate one.

Mufasa

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[quote]Mufasa wrote:
In many ways, I think that the candidates were “playing nice” with each other as they attacked the President (which they should do, no question).

Don’t you think debating each other was much different than what debating the President will be?

Say what you may about Obama a) he now better understands the world, the Presidency and the workings of Washington and 2) he is a heck of a debater.

Discuss.

Mufasa[/quote]

I have to disagree with you, he is not a heck of a debater. And in fact Hillary Clinton ate his lunch both times that I saw them debate. Being a good speaker is not the same thing as being a good debater. With that said, he is much more knowledgable now than he was in 08. But to his disadvantage he also has a record to run on. He can no longer promise the masses “change”. They now know what he meant by change and I am quite sure that the many people’s expectations have not been met.

Also, what I’ve seen over the years is that these debates sharpen the candidates (even though they are no always heated-It’s like sparring). As we know we all get better at what we do on a regular basis. For example, we saw how stiff then sitting President GW Bush was against John Kerry in their first debate. Kerry won hands down as he had been through the circuit and his rhetoric was polished. But we saw a different George Bush in the second debate where he gave a far better performance.

With that said, unless there some major gaffes by a candidate the debates don’t really sway too many people.

As a side not I’m starting to think that a Huntsman/Bachman or a Romney/Bachman ticket would be the best shot. Unless someone could convince Chris Christie to take the VP spot. If Christie ran on the ticket and could bring NJ that would be powerful indeed.

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[quote]Mufasa wrote:

  1. Debate is part of our election process.

  2. Debate has ALWAYS been an integral part of the Democratic process.

  3. Debate was essential during the formulation of our beloved Constitution.

Also, the “Big Deal”, push, is that the GOP nominee will be going into these most Democratic of processes of debate and election against a seasoned President. I doubt that ANY of the GOP candidates are overlooking that fact.

The Teleprompter “issue” is getting older and more worn out than the Birth Certificate one.

Mufasa[/quote]

Maybe people see him strong based on this in a campaign…but the fact is I want a strong candidate that is FOR US interest, and puts the US first, over the “International Community”. We are lacking this type of leadership. Evidence is everywhere that Obama put International interest above the USA interest.

We need someone who has Americans interest at heart and does not care about offending the world.

Michelle would be 100% better at those things regardless of if she can 'debate" in a campaign forum.

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[quote]Rockscar wrote:

[quote]Mufasa wrote:

  1. Debate is part of our election process.

  2. Debate has ALWAYS been an integral part of the Democratic process.

  3. Debate was essential during the formulation of our beloved Constitution.

Also, the “Big Deal”, push, is that the GOP nominee will be going into these most Democratic of processes of debate and election against a seasoned President. I doubt that ANY of the GOP candidates are overlooking that fact.

The Teleprompter “issue” is getting older and more worn out than the Birth Certificate one.

Mufasa[/quote]

Maybe people see him strong based on this in a campaign…but the fact is I want a strong candidate that is FOR US interest, and puts the US first, over the “International Community”. We are lacking this type of leadership. Evidence is everywhere that Obama put International interest above the USA interest.

We need someone who has Americans interest at heart and does not care about offending the world.

Michelle would be 100% better at those things regardless of if she can 'debate" in a campaign forum.

[/quote]

One of history’s ironies is that the person(s) who tries to fix a problem is blamed for causing the problem. If a recession occurs next year, do you think that measures taken to curb the horrendous deficits would get the blame, or the deficits themselves? If we do elect a sane candidate who tries to fix things, will that person get blamed or will the problems themselves be blamed?

I’m afraid this experiment with Liberalism for the past 70+ years will end in disaster no matter who gets elected. Look at the rioting in Greece – that’s our future, plus a whole lot more.

“According to a June 8th CNN/Opinion Research Corporation poll, 48 percent of Americans believe that another Great Depression is likely to occur in the next year â?? the highest that figure has ever reached. The survey also indicates that just under half of the respondents live in a household where someone has lost a job or is worried that unemployment may hit them in the near future.”