Mexican Loyalties in the United States

[quote]Sloth wrote:
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=M2Q3YTQxNTVjZjRhM2U4ZTdjNmM4NmQ0N2RmNWU5YWQ[/quote]

What this article basically points to is the end of the US as a first-world country. You can’t have a first-world country when the fastest-growing demographic can’t coherently string sentences together in the native language.

The United States is in a demographic flat-spin from which it is unlikely to recover.

[quote]PRCalDude wrote:
Sloth wrote:
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=M2Q3YTQxNTVjZjRhM2U4ZTdjNmM4NmQ0N2RmNWU5YWQ

What this article basically points to is the end of the US as a first-world country. You can’t have a first-world country when the fastest-growing demographic can’t coherently string sentences together in the native language.

The United States is in a demographic flat-spin from which it is unlikely to recover.
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I think this is a function of WHO is immmigrating from Mexico. It is primarily the lowest of the lower-class, with no education, and no FOCUS on education. If those kids stayed in Mexico, they wouldn’t speak or write Spanish well either.

[quote]HG Thrower wrote:

I think this is a function of WHO is immmigrating from Mexico. It is primarily the lowest of the lower-class, with no education, and no FOCUS on education. If those kids stayed in Mexico, they wouldn’t speak or write Spanish well either.[/quote]

That’s primarily who lives in Mexico. Most of Mexico is that way.

[quote]PRCalDude wrote:
HG Thrower wrote:

I think this is a function of WHO is immmigrating from Mexico. It is primarily the lowest of the lower-class, with no education, and no FOCUS on education. If those kids stayed in Mexico, they wouldn’t speak or write Spanish well either.

That’s primarily who lives in Mexico. Most of Mexico is that way. [/quote]

Interesting side fact: PEMEX, Mexico’s state-run oil company, is the only major oil operator that runs at a loss. This is despite tremendous productive wells both in the Gulf and onshore.

Like it or not immmigration must stop. At least for a period of time. I know argue that this country was founded by immigrants, etc. We’ve all heard the same worn out crap. True America is the “Great Melting Pot” but, you can only put so much soup in the pot before it overflows.

Furthermore, this (insert race)-American stuff has to stop if this country is to be great once more. Good for you, you’re proud of where you came from. So were my first generation Italian Great and grand parents, but they didn’t ask America to conform to them. The adjusted and helped America become great. They learned the language and did what they had to do in order to raise a family and becaome a productive tax paying part of our country.

Too many feel they are owed or should be taken care of by the government. That’s just plain wrong.

Another sidebar, this dude Cain Velasquez is now hot shit in the UFC. In the pre-fight video sequences, they play up his Mexican heritage, the fact that his dad is an illegal, etc. Tons of camera close-ups on his “Brown Pride” tat. Now, what if Lesnar or Chuck Lidell showed up with a huge chest tat that said “White Pride”? Would they drool all over it like they do Velasquez? 'Fraid not. The guy would never get on TV without it being covered up.

[quote]orion wrote:
Cockney Blue wrote:
3IdSpetsnaz wrote:
I think Mexico would be ok if they could get rid of their corrupt officials there. I know people will yell and say we have corrupt officials, and we certainly do. But their gap between rich and poor is even wider than we have here in the US.

It is wider, and that is what I’m saying. Mexico is not umpteen poorer than the USA, the problem is their rich are greedy and don’t provide shyt for their lower classes and try to deny upward mobility as much as possible. They’ve turned their issues with social inequity and poverty into a international scam syphoning cash out of th USA into Mexico.

Where as in the US all the monied people are just desperate to hand it over to the poorer classes. I see them marching and screaming at town hall meetings about how much they want to give over more money.

Just watch an episode of cribs and you see how they give money to the working poor.

Just because they do not prostrate themselves, cover their head in ashes and make amends for being so damn successful does not mean that they do not provide an invaluable service to the poor by their sheer existence.
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The same is true of Mexico. Funnily enough, just like in the US, the builders, cleaners, nannies, gardners etc in Mexico are Mexican.

[quote]PRCalDude wrote:
HG Thrower wrote:

I think this is a function of WHO is immmigrating from Mexico. It is primarily the lowest of the lower-class, with no education, and no FOCUS on education. If those kids stayed in Mexico, they wouldn’t speak or write Spanish well either.

That’s primarily who lives in Mexico. Most of Mexico is that way. [/quote]

Have you actually ever been to Mexico or are you basing this on watching Desperado a couple of times and watching Fox News?

[quote]HG Thrower wrote:
PRCalDude wrote:
HG Thrower wrote:

I think this is a function of WHO is immmigrating from Mexico. It is primarily the lowest of the lower-class, with no education, and no FOCUS on education. If those kids stayed in Mexico, they wouldn’t speak or write Spanish well either.

That’s primarily who lives in Mexico. Most of Mexico is that way.

Interesting side fact: PEMEX, Mexico’s state-run oil company, is the only major oil operator that runs at a loss. This is despite tremendous productive wells both in the Gulf and onshore.[/quote]

That is partly because the government artificially holds the price of gas low in order to make it affordable to the people and partly because unionisation has led to some absolutely bonkers working practices.

The current government is working hard to resolve situations like this and has just handed the running of Mexico City’s unprofitable electricity company over to the profitable national company CFE.

[quote]Cockney Blue wrote:
PRCalDude wrote:
HG Thrower wrote:

I think this is a function of WHO is immmigrating from Mexico. It is primarily the lowest of the lower-class, with no education, and no FOCUS on education. If those kids stayed in Mexico, they wouldn’t speak or write Spanish well either.

That’s primarily who lives in Mexico. Most of Mexico is that way.

Have you actually ever been to Mexico or are you basing this on watching Desperado a couple of times and watching Fox News?[/quote]

I’d imagine it is an observation of what is taking place in America. We are not getting the best of Mexico or any country for that matter.


Well here are two MMA fighters who have white power type tattoos.

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[quote]3hitter wrote:
Cockney Blue wrote:
PRCalDude wrote:
HG Thrower wrote:

I think this is a function of WHO is immmigrating from Mexico. It is primarily the lowest of the lower-class, with no education, and no FOCUS on education. If those kids stayed in Mexico, they wouldn’t speak or write Spanish well either.

That’s primarily who lives in Mexico. Most of Mexico is that way.

Have you actually ever been to Mexico or are you basing this on watching Desperado a couple of times and watching Fox News?

I’d imagine it is an observation of what is taking place in America. We are not getting the best of Mexico or any country for that matter.
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No, he specifically said most of ‘Mexico is that way’

[quote]Cockney Blue wrote:
3hitter wrote:
Cockney Blue wrote:
PRCalDude wrote:
HG Thrower wrote:

I think this is a function of WHO is immmigrating from Mexico. It is primarily the lowest of the lower-class, with no education, and no FOCUS on education. If those kids stayed in Mexico, they wouldn’t speak or write Spanish well either.

That’s primarily who lives in Mexico. Most of Mexico is that way.

Have you actually ever been to Mexico or are you basing this on watching Desperado a couple of times and watching Fox News?

I’d imagine it is an observation of what is taking place in America. We are not getting the best of Mexico or any country for that matter.

No, he specifically said most of ‘Mexico is that way’[/quote]

But he also said “I think this is a function of WHO is immmigrating from Mexico.”

[quote]Cockney Blue wrote:
HG Thrower wrote:
PRCalDude wrote:
HG Thrower wrote:

I think this is a function of WHO is immmigrating from Mexico. It is primarily the lowest of the lower-class, with no education, and no FOCUS on education. If those kids stayed in Mexico, they wouldn’t speak or write Spanish well either.

That’s primarily who lives in Mexico. Most of Mexico is that way.

Interesting side fact: PEMEX, Mexico’s state-run oil company, is the only major oil operator that runs at a loss. This is despite tremendous productive wells both in the Gulf and onshore.

That is partly because the government artificially holds the price of gas low in order to make it affordable to the people and partly because unionisation has led to some absolutely bonkers working practices.

The current government is working hard to resolve situations like this and has just handed the running of Mexico City’s unprofitable electricity company over to the profitable national company CFE.[/quote]

This is a little confusing. Maybe you could help me understand. If the government run PEMEX is running at a loss, (and yes I know oil prices are down), Than how do they resolve an issue of eletricity by turning it over to CFE, a state run company?

[quote]3hitter wrote:
Cockney Blue wrote:
PRCalDude wrote:
HG Thrower wrote:

I think this is a function of WHO is immmigrating from Mexico. It is primarily the lowest of the lower-class, with no education, and no FOCUS on education. If those kids stayed in Mexico, they wouldn’t speak or write Spanish well either.

That’s primarily who lives in Mexico. Most of Mexico is that way.

Have you actually ever been to Mexico or are you basing this on watching Desperado a couple of times and watching Fox News?

I’d imagine it is an observation of what is taking place in America. We are not getting the best of Mexico or any country for that matter.
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The “best of Mexico” is a small percentage of the actual Mexican population. Something like 80% of Mexicans thought their lives would be better in the US, which tells you how many potential Mexican immigrants there are out there.

Drive through Mexico and ask yourself how much of it you’d like moving here and you’ll have your answer. Mexico is the way it is because a lot of Mexicans live there.

[quote]Gambit_Lost wrote:
Here’s the other map showing greater inequality in Mexico[/quote]

This is a relatively useless metric for all intents and purposes. The coefficient is normalized to the lowest/highest shares of income within a particular country. What if everyone has a low income? Well, the Gini coefficient would be low, but so what? So would per capita GDP.

Per capita GDP is not as bad in Mexico as it is in a lot of other places, but it’s still a lot worse than the US, which is a problem for us.

This one will really make your gina tingle, G_L:

See Mexico, clearly in the red? The the US and CAnada, way up there in the green?

I hyave many mexican friends and co-workers, I can not beleive the racisim in this thread, wow. I am half Russin and have family that speaks shitty english, and yeah I am proud of it and I am loyal to them. So what is your beef op, and I stay in south fla, so I am not in Maybury.

[quote]HG Thrower wrote:
Another sidebar, this dude Cain Velasquez is now hot shit in the UFC. In the pre-fight video sequences, they play up his Mexican heritage, the fact that his dad is an illegal, etc. Tons of camera close-ups on his “Brown Pride” tat. Now, what if Lesnar or Chuck Lidell showed up with a huge chest tat that said “White Pride”? Would they drool all over it like they do Velasquez? 'Fraid not. The guy would never get on TV without it being covered up.[/quote]

Do you think he would get the same opportunity in Mexico? Or would be limited to that Nacho Libre shit?

The race issue is another thing that is just a dead horse. If you disagree with a minority, you are labeled a racist. However, if I went down to Mexico and was not given everything that illegals get here, I could never get away with calling them racists against whites. I would probably not be let out alive. Should I demand free healthcare, free education (in English), government benefits for any children I might have there once I crossed into Mexico illegally?
Where would Mexico be without the help of the US. I wonder, if illegals were not sending back money, what kind of catastrophe would there be in Mexico? Remember this is the #2 GDP for them.

[quote]sevenmoist wrote:
I have many mexican friends and co-workers, I can not believe the racism in this thread, wow. I am half Russin and have family that speaks shitty english, and yeah I am proud of it and I am loyal to them. So what is your beef op, and I stay in south fla, so I am not in Maybury.[/quote]

You are not waving a Russian flag in the streets.